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16:9 Screens Popular, But Movies Go Wider
Source: Tom's Hardware – Category : Monitors 41 comments
Have you ever wondered why the wide screens have invaded our living rooms and computer desks so rapidly? It’s a matter of cost. A wide screen, 16:10 display costs less to produce than a 4:3 screen since. The cost lies in the cutting stage of manufacturing where big panels, which usually measures around 2m x 1.9m, gets sliced up into smaller panels that actually go into displays.
Using wide formats a manufacturer can produce more 16:10 displays than 4:3 displays. The same logic applies to 16:9 in fact this aspect ratio yields even better results. You can get even more displays when cutting the panels in the 16:9 form factor.
The end user then should have a couple of advantages. First, the displays should be the cheaper in purchase cost for the consumer. Second, 16:9 are better to watch movies with since it’s the native format of many TV series and of many movies. Third, high definition like 720p and 1080p resolutions are produced to fit nicely in a 16:9 format, i.e. 1920x1080 pixels and not 1900 x 1200 (16:10) such as in most computer displays. With a 16:9 display, you can watch Full HD movies without the need to scale them.
However, the trend is changing again, as most movies coming out now are produced in even wider format than 16:9. So even now 16:9 displays are becoming an issue for most users who are into serious home theater setups.
The disadvantages however are similar to those that we experienced by switching from 4:3 to 16:9 screens. Smaller vertical space, smaller overall working area compared with screens with the same diagonal size. If a user was using say, a 21-inch 4:3 screen but wanted to upgrade to a 16:9 display, they would have to purchase a 23-inch or 24-inch screen to give a similar working area.
The new sizes that we will see in desktop and notebook displays more and more often will be 14", 15.6", 18.5", 21.6", 23.6". The native resolution ranging from HD (1366x768) to Full HD (1920x1080).
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Why don't movie companies just use 16:9? It's what all the HD resolutions are and it looks a lot better to use an entire screen than just a portion of it. NO ONE own anything but a 4:3 or 16:9 TV (or 16:10 Monitor) yet they release movies that are, i believe it is, 2.35:1 all the time.
It's really starting to annoying me
And yes, I don't care for the ultra-wide movies either. 4:3 or 16:9 are reasonable approximations for a human's field of vision. 2.35:1 isn't. It's been a marketing gimmick since movies first went wide to compete against TV. Time to return to reality and start making movies in a standard, human, aspect ratio.
Does any one know what the conversion is 2.35.1 would be what exactly?
And when is going to for sale?i keep holding off getting a very expensive tv for the fact im not made out of money and it will have to do me for a very long time.
As far as i know tvs in the next couple of years will be like 300 lines instead of the meager 1080.......so it would make what we have now look like junk.
"If a user was using say, a 21-inch 4:3 screen but wanted to upgrade to a 16:9 display, they would have to purchase a 23-inch or 24-inch screen to give a similar working area."
To equal the same area as a 21-inch 4:3, one would need a 22.257-inch 16:9 display. So saying one would have to purchase a 24-inch is wrong.
Aspect ratio is primarily an artistic choice, depending on the scope of the movie.
Intimate euro dramas can be 1.66, most movies are 1.85 and epics are often 2.35. Kubrick liked 1.37.
The movie isn't designed to look good on an LCD, it's designed to look good projected, first and foremost, where black bars are not a problem.
Filmmakers will standardize on an aspect ratio at the same time as painters standardize on canvas dimensions...
Bruce
going from 22 4:3 screen to 22 16:9 your would actually loose ~30sqare inches of work space and thats what they talk about in article above i believe.
If I was going to make any kind of digital artwork, the screen resolution my work is viewed is something considered. I would want to make sure that the art is viewed in a manner that I feel best represents the work... Most artists have these sorts of limitations... you don't see digital work for magazines done in just RGB, they must also consider CMYK, and know what the art will look like in a printed form.
The same should be applied in film. As artists, they should be thinking of these things, since inevitably it will effect the way people view their hard work.
| wrote : I'm actually quite annoyed with the whole concept. I don't use my computer or laptop for watching movies. I use it to work. Work which usually prefers a format more like 9.5 x 11. (A standard sheet of paper) I need a taller display not a wider one. Unless the movie industry plans on getting the rest of the world to start printing all their paperwork landscape and making web sites scroll horizontally and not vertically, the whole concept is useless to me as far as computers are concerned. |
A 20-21" 4:3 display (like the Samsung 214T or 204B) can display a sheet of paper if rotated vertically 1:1 (or greater). Since a 24" 16:10 monitor (like the Samsung 245T) has the same number of horizontal lines (1200) it too can be rotated vertically to display a whole sheet of paper 1:1. Many monitor manufacturers make their stands so the display can be rotated for this very reason.
A 20" 16:10 monitor, on the on the other hand, gives me 1680x1050 pixels. 1050 pixels vertically is too few lines of text, and at least in my experience, being able to display many lines (many of which are very short horizontally) is paramount. If I turn a wide-screen monitor into portrait orientation, then I only have 1050 pixels horizontally, which is a bit narrow for some lines of code.
In general, I just feel that the 16:10 format is somewhat unfortunate. I was much happier with 4:3 monitors, but they are almost becoming hard to find nowadays.
Why don't movie companies just use 16:9? It's what all the HD resolutions are and it looks a lot better to use an entire screen than just a portion of it. NO ONE own anything but a 4:3 or 16:9 TV (or 16:10 Monitor) yet they release movies that are, i believe it is, 2.35:1 all the time.
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its a compromise. and theres no reason to nerf all artistic decisions in film just to fit your tv set. super wide screen is appropriate for epic film. shorter screens are for comedies and such. a longer screen than 16:9 would leave side bars for much material which is more annoying than horizontal bars. movies are first made for the freakin theater. think about it.
well thats why they make bigger wide screen lcds. 30" gets you massive resolution.
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wide screen displays make up for their lack of vertical space by adding more horizontal space
example
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300 [...] rd5bt5.jpg
on my wide screen display the text fits the width of the screen
http://forums.g4tv.com/thread.jspa [...] 7&tstart=0
thats a post I made showing a script i did for the g4 forums
the video shows many elements of the page missing, thats because of adblock, the g4 forums load really slow so to make pages load extremely fast, i block all of the ads and some of the ui mainly the title bar area which uses an inhuman amount of bandwidth hogging effects
the key to using a css editor it to make a script that makes key parts of the website dynamic in their size, some scripts may work on many sites and others may need to be custom made for each site, (i do custom scripts for sites i go on a lot )
when I get better with java script, I will make some greasemonkey scripts for adding extra content and features for some web pages, (mainly g4 forums because the idiots who made jive decided to add navigation to the top of the page but not the bottom like in most other forum software, the navigation is on the top and bottom so people don't have to scroll to the top to navigate to other parts of the forum
http://www.flickr.com/photos/roble [...] et-773976/

