Update: Nvidia Says Fermi Not Delayed
Hold on to this Fermi until March, will ya?
Fermi is Nvidia's next big thing. Nvidia bills Fermi as an entirely new ground-up design that will finally realize the potential of GPU computing – using the graphics card for more than just pushing pixels and driving them to your display.
"It is completely clear that GPUs are now general purpose parallel computing processors with amazing graphics, and not just graphics chips anymore," said Jen-Hsun Huang, co-founder and CEO of Nvidia. "The Fermi architecture, the integrated tools, libraries and engines are the direct results of the insights we have gained from working with thousands of CUDA developers around the world. We will look back in the coming years and see that Fermi started the new GPU industry."
The Fermi GPU will pack 3 billion transistors, making it one mammoth chip - bigger than anything from ATI - but with that ambition comes challenges.
If this Digitimes report is to be believed, Nvidia has hit a snag or two in its plans to launch Fermi and has now pushed back the date to March 2010.
Digitimes' sources also noted that ATI is expected to launch the 40nm Radeon HD 5670/5570 (Redwood) and HD 5450 (Cedar) GPUs at the end of January or in February 2010.
Update: Nvidia responded to this report saying that it announced in a previous conference call that Fermi would ship sometime in the first quarter of 2010, meaning that there hasn't been any real delay in release time frame.
“We are excited about the attention surrounding GF100 as it forms the foundation for the fastest and most feature rich graphics cards ever designed," said Nvidia's Bryan Del Rizzo. "Great things come to those that wait, and the wait will be over in Q1 as we have said previously. The release date has not changed since our initial comments last November."
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If that's what it takes to do it right.
march
for myself for my birthday
hmmm thats my birth day! maybe ill get a graphics card
They should delay it forever, then they'll fit right in.
Hopefully they can make something good out of their extra time. Looking forward to seeing it.
I thought it was supposed to be released in March. This seems like an update rather than delay.
Reminds me of ATI's launch of DX10 compatible parts. Nvidia had their parts available, and it took a few months for ATI to get their parts out the door.
And in other news DNF will release next year.
hmm, wouldn't it have been better not to build such a HUGE chip for once. I know they think it will work, but it just means they will have more 340-379 cards (whatever number they will give it) and less of the performance cards of 380+.
I hope they made a smart choice while designing the chip, that even if parts fails, they still can make a good chip from it. But more smaller chips would have been better if you ask me.
Let's see how President of Nvidia making fun of this delay in his next set of cartoons.
Maybe they found some problem with it and needed a little more time to fix it? It sounds like it is going to be one complex piece of silicon.
That's bad news... So far ATI hasn't been able to fully cash in on their DX11 lead due to supply troubles, but just as these are getting fixed Nvidia announces another delay. I hear champagne corks flying in the ATI headquarters.
Have they taken to much hay on their pitchfork? Every statement they release boasts about the sheer scale of Fermi, yet it's always accompanied by another delay. It's windy at the top...
Still Q1 2010, I'd rather see a working chip come later than a flawed chip to I can pull some hair out of my head for a few months sooner.
larabee meet fermi
ATI's rumored to have a 5890 in the works, so however powerful Fermi is, ATI's is gonna have a response by either releasing a cheaper 5890, or taking back the performance crown with the 5890. Nvidia is really shooting themselves in the foot here. What are they gonna do when ATI lowers the price the the 5850 and 5870 by a $100 making it a way better bang for your bang then Fermi. And by march ATI is gonna have all of its low and mid range cards out, which are the true money makers for a GPU company.
Sigh, i think Nvidia is falling behind
Fermi will be a monster. Hope it is released soon
this bodes well for me. i can smell a $200 5850 in my future.fermi will be powerful but i'm a value shopper, not a power shopper.
Delays are fine, but how much this monster will cost?
Will Fermi ever deliver a comparable price/performance ratio?
Why are you showing that image? It's been prove that it was a film that nothings has to do with nVidia!
My prediction:
nVidia's new cards will be very fast and a bit overpriced.
ATI will fight back against nVidia's flagship by releasing the 5890.
Depending on the performance of the nVidia cards ATI may pull ahead or they may still be behind which will for ATI to release thier new flagship at a lower price. ATI may still try to attain the top spot thus causing them to release a higher performing card. 5900 series maybe? Only time will tell but I like to see that nVidia is trying to innovate and I am excited to see the benchmarks for these new "Fermi" cards.
I think nVidia was surprised by the current ATI performance and had to delay in order to bring them up to par. I think their constant mention of Cuda technology and virtually nothing on the "pixel pushing" supports this assertion. Maybe they are on to something... but it's not going to be significant in this generation of cards. Most software doesn't even need the computing power a core i7 provides. Why do we need parallel co-processing via GPU? nVidea made a monster chip that will most likely under perform where it matters, and cost a fortune.
ATI's rumored to have a 5890 in the works, so however powerful Fermi is, ATI's is gonna have a response by either releasing a cheaper 5890, or taking back the performance crown with the 5890. Nvidia is really shooting themselves in the foot here. What are they gonna do when ATI lowers the price the the 5850 and 5870 by a $100 making it a way better bang for your bang then Fermi. And by march ATI is gonna have all of its low and mid range cards out, which are the true money makers for a GPU company.Sigh, i think Nvidia is falling behind
yeah , the first point of improvement would be to increase the memory width by a bit in spite of gddr5 ... 256 bits gddr5 is quite good , but look at how the 5770 underperforms compared to 4890 having all the same theoretical specs for everything else except the memory width .
but regarding the article , that image (from a video) is not fermi based work ... i thought everyone knew this by now including you , marcus ... if there's a doubt i will find that link to the forum where this is mentioned by the creator .. i wonder if he knows about all these references to his work being passed as fermi based .
Meh, I can wait. I rather have a stable GPU than a non-stable one. It's going to kick ass. NVIDIA has never let me down, and I am all about performance. For those of you who do not understand the architecture of the chip, it's the most complex chip NVIDIA has ever made... so calm down and be patient.
Bigger flop than FX?
that nvidia logo is photoshopped , i think that video was made in c4d which does not even use cuda at least for now .
Who woulda ever predicted this .... lol
March will be Nvidia's cut down Fermi, I woudln't expect a high end competitor untill June at the earliest.
Why are you showing that image? It's been prove that it was a film that nothings has to do with nVidia!
Better picture would be Jen-Hsung holding that plastic fermi mockup.
http://www.nordichardware.com/image3.php?id=9164
My prediction:nVidia's new cards will be very fast and a bit overpriced.ATI will fight back against nVidia's flagship by releasing the 5890.Depending on the performance of the nVidia cards ATI may pull ahead or they may still be behind which will for ATI to release thier new flagship at a lower price. ATI may still try to attain the top spot thus causing them to release a higher performing card. 5900 series maybe? Only time will tell but I like to see that nVidia is trying to innovate and I am excited to see the benchmarks for these new "Fermi" cards.
So in other words, history will simply repeat itself. Looking forward to the competition though!! Love it when prices drop
Yea, if March is primary availability, you won't see flagship until June at the minimum. By which time ATI should be releasing its 6870 cards (or whatever they'll call em) which will do what Fermi does at 1/2 the manfucaturing cost. This doesn't bode well for nVidia, falling behind on market share, performance. Even if they do put out a monster GPU, they won't rake in the dough because they won't have the mainstream market - at best the niche market of enthusiasts/overclockers. ATI will have had almost 9 month to realize production efficiences and good, profitable yields on the 5xxx cards.
*sigh* THis is too bad, because what it means is that we'll have very exensive ATI cards for a while. Forget about the race to the bottom we had during the 4xxx cards release time. I guess Ishould just grab another 4870 and crossfire my cards and skip this current generation all together until later 2010.
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Sooner the card comes out the sooner ATI pushes their prices down and everyone wins.(assuming they finally got the A3 to actually work out in the performance/size they wanted) and everyone wins with cheaper more powerful gpus.
Hurry the f up nvidia but don't mess up so err keep going at the pace you have been with the proper amount of caution !
Yea, if March is primary availability, you won't see flagship until June at the minimum. By which time ATI should be releasing its 6870 cards (or whatever they'll call em) which will do what Fermi does at 1/2 the manfucaturing cost. This doesn't bode well for nVidia, falling behind on market share, performance. Even if they do put out a monster GPU, they won't rake in the dough because they won't have the mainstream market - at best the niche market of enthusiasts/overclockers. ATI will have had almost 9 month to realize production efficiences and good, profitable yields on the 5xxx cards.*sigh* THis is too bad, because what it means is that we'll have very exensive ATI cards for a while. Forget about the race to the bottom we had during the 4xxx cards release time. I guess Ishould just grab another 4870 and crossfire my cards and skip this current generation all together until later 2010."The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed."
This is exactly what i had thought when the femmi nvdia display at a convention was fake.(it was a 280) It's a level desperation i haven't witness in the computer industry yet. I start following technology news in 99 so.... I'm still somewhat new to this industry.
Think I'll just get a GT 240. If it takes till March to get out the power one, it'll take forever to get out the value one.