Three Haswell CPUs to Ship With BGA Socket & HD5200 GPU

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Niels Broekhuijsen
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Niels Broekhuijsen is a Contributing Writer for Tom's Hardware US. He reviews cases, water cooling and pc builds.

  • borisof007
    I could see this being useful on laptops or all in one systems. 5200 integrated graphics would be OK for a few games on lower settings. On Desktops though? No way.
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  • killabanks
    a few years ago i dreamed that one day we can build laptops the way we do desktops.. screw you intel for ruining my dream
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  • wanderer11
    There's an i5 with 2 cores and hyper threading (4570t)? Just call it an i3 intel, please don't make the name convention any worse than it already is.
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  • warmon6
    wanderer11There's an i5 with 2 cores and hyper threading (4570t)? Just call it an i3 intel, please don't make the name convention any worse than it already is.
    Heck, in the ultrabooks it's worse. There are cpu's like that inside some of them that are labeled as Core i7's....

    http://ark.intel.com/products/64898/Intel-Core-i7-3667U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_20-GHz
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  • nmodin
    borisof007I could see this being useful on laptops or all in one systems. 5200 integrated graphics would be OK for a few games on lower settings. On Desktops though? No way.
    I actually play WoW and EVE on my dev machine, a MacMini 2009 (C2D, 9400M). Not on a very high resolution or with any fancy settings on, but it works. But o/c, it won't suffice for any games that has been released the last 2 years ! :D

    This would pretty much be the perfect CPU for the next MacMini
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  • nmodin
    nmodinI actually play WoW and EVE on my dev machine, a MacMini 2009 (C2D, 9400M). Not on a very high resolution or with any fancy settings on, but it works. But o/c, it won't suffice for any games that has been released the last 2 years ! This would pretty much be the perfect CPU for the next MacMini
    But then again, a MacMini might not pass for a desktop without a little bending of the semantics of a desktop.... :D
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  • borisof007
    nmodinI actually play WoW and EVE on my dev machine, a MacMini 2009 (C2D, 9400M). Not on a very high resolution or with any fancy settings on, but it works. But o/c, it won't suffice for any games that has been released the last 2 years ! This would pretty much be the perfect CPU for the next MacMini
    My work lappy is a lenovo thinkpad with HD 3000 intel graphics, it can run WoW and Starcraft 2 on low settings, which I'm totally not used to from work machines.
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  • AncientNoob
    What an unnecessary mess. 17 units and not even counting the i3s yet.

    Why can't power usage be done in the BIOS or something. Just have an i7 4770 and let the builder choose T mode or S mode or whatever. And watch out for the 2 core surprise on the i5 4570T! Don't get started on the random feature removal surprises on K and others (VT-D, vPro)...
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  • edogawa
    Probably most of us upgrade the motherboard with the processor at the same time,
    so I don't think BGA is such a bad idea, but there's issues still.

    If the motherboard gets damaged or dies while the processor is fine isn't that a bit of a issue cost wise?

    High end chips should should remain LGA for gamers and enthusiasts because they won't want to spend 600 instead of 300 to replace a motherboard or CPU. This will make warranties much more appreciated probably. BGA is limiting choice a bit too.
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  • Cy-Kill
    It really seems to me that CPU makers have hit a ceiling and not being able to get CPUs above 3.x GHz.
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