Three Haswell CPUs to Ship With BGA Socket & HD5200 GPU
It appears that three of the Haswell chips will feature BGA sockets.
Last year we first heard that Intel might be planning do stop using the LGA (Land Grid Array) socket in favor of a BGA (Ball Grid Array) socket. While we won't be seeing all-BGA CPU's with the Haswell release, it appears that Intel is shipping three CPUs in the Haswell lineup that will have a BGA socket.
For those of you that aren't aware of it yet, a BGA socket isn't exactly a socket. A BGA socket means that the CPU is soldered to the motherboard, and thus not removable or replaceable.
The CPUs that would have the BGA socket are the Core i7 4770R, Core i5 4670R, and the Core i5 4570R. As you can tell, the R-naming makes for the BGA socket, so keep an eye out for this when buying a new PC. Beyond the BGA socket, the -R CPUs will also carry an HD 5200 GPU rather than the HD 4600 GPU found on all other Haswell chips.
The current assumption is that the -R chips will make part of the NUC (Next Unit of Computing) platform, although this remains unconfirmed. We might also be seeing these chips in laptops and all-in-one systems.
Model | Cores / Threads | Base / Turbo | L3 cache | GPU | GPU Turbo* | TDP |
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Core i7 4770 | 4 / 8 | 3.4 / 3.9 GHz | 8 MB | HD 4600 | 1200 MHz | 84 W |
Core i7 4770K | 4 / 8 | 3.5 / 3.9 GHz | 8 MB | HD 4600 | 1250 MHz | 84 W |
Core i7 4770R | 4 / 8 | 3.2 / 3.9 GHz | 6 MB | HD 5200 | 1300 MHz | 65 W |
Core i7 4770S | 4 / 8 | 3.1 / 3.9 GHz | 8 MB | HD 4600 | 1200 MHz | 65 W |
Core i7 4770T | 4 / 8 | 2.5 / 3.7 GHz | 8 MB | HD 4600 | 1200 MHz | 45 W |
Core i7 4765T | 4 / 8 | 2.0 / 3.0 GHz | 8 MB | HD 4600 | 1200 MHz | 35 W |
Core i5 4670 | 4 / 4 | 3.4 / 3.8 GHz | 6 MB | HD 4600 | 1200 MHz | 84 W |
Core i5 4670K | 4 / 4 | 3.4 / 3.8 GHz | 6 MB | HD 4600 | 1200 MHz | 84 W |
Core i5 4670R | 4 / 4 | 3.0 / 3.7 GHz | 4 MB | HD 5200 | 1300 MHz | 65 W |
Core i5 4670S | 4 / 4 | 3.1 / 3.8 GHz | 6 MB | HD 4600 | 1200 MHz | 65 W |
Core i5 4670T | 4 / 4 | 2.3 / 3.3 GHz | 6 MB | HD 4600 | 1200 MHz | 45 W |
Core i5 4570 | 4 / 4 | 3.2 / 3.6 GHz | 6 MB | HD 4600 | 1150 MHz | 84 W |
Core i5 4570R | 4 / 4 | 2.7 / 3.2 GHz | 4 MB | HD 5200 | 1150 MHz | 65 W |
Core i5 4570S | 4 / 4 | 3.0 / 3.7 GHz | 6 MB | HD 4600 | 1150 MHz | 65 W |
Core i5 4570T | 2 / 4 | 2.9 / 3.6 GHz | 4 MB | HD 4600 | 1150 MHz | 35 W |
Core i5 4430 | 4 / 4 | 3.0 / 3.2 GHz | 6 MB | HD 4600 | 1100 MHz | 84 W |
Core i5 4330S | 4 / 4 | 2.7 / 3.2 GHz | 6 MB | HD 4600 | 1100 MHz | 65 W |
* Base clock speed of the GPUs remain unknown.
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borisof007 I could see this being useful on laptops or all in one systems. 5200 integrated graphics would be OK for a few games on lower settings. On Desktops though? No way.Reply -
killabanks a few years ago i dreamed that one day we can build laptops the way we do desktops.. screw you intel for ruining my dreamReply -
wanderer11 There's an i5 with 2 cores and hyper threading (4570t)? Just call it an i3 intel, please don't make the name convention any worse than it already is.Reply -
warmon6 wanderer11There's an i5 with 2 cores and hyper threading (4570t)? Just call it an i3 intel, please don't make the name convention any worse than it already is.Reply
Heck, in the ultrabooks it's worse. There are cpu's like that inside some of them that are labeled as Core i7's....
http://ark.intel.com/products/64898/Intel-Core-i7-3667U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_20-GHz
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nmodin borisof007I could see this being useful on laptops or all in one systems. 5200 integrated graphics would be OK for a few games on lower settings. On Desktops though? No way.Reply
I actually play WoW and EVE on my dev machine, a MacMini 2009 (C2D, 9400M). Not on a very high resolution or with any fancy settings on, but it works. But o/c, it won't suffice for any games that has been released the last 2 years ! :D
This would pretty much be the perfect CPU for the next MacMini -
nmodin nmodinI actually play WoW and EVE on my dev machine, a MacMini 2009 (C2D, 9400M). Not on a very high resolution or with any fancy settings on, but it works. But o/c, it won't suffice for any games that has been released the last 2 years ! This would pretty much be the perfect CPU for the next MacMiniReply
But then again, a MacMini might not pass for a desktop without a little bending of the semantics of a desktop.... :D
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borisof007 nmodinI actually play WoW and EVE on my dev machine, a MacMini 2009 (C2D, 9400M). Not on a very high resolution or with any fancy settings on, but it works. But o/c, it won't suffice for any games that has been released the last 2 years ! This would pretty much be the perfect CPU for the next MacMiniReply
My work lappy is a lenovo thinkpad with HD 3000 intel graphics, it can run WoW and Starcraft 2 on low settings, which I'm totally not used to from work machines.
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AncientNoob What an unnecessary mess. 17 units and not even counting the i3s yet.Reply
Why can't power usage be done in the BIOS or something. Just have an i7 4770 and let the builder choose T mode or S mode or whatever. And watch out for the 2 core surprise on the i5 4570T! Don't get started on the random feature removal surprises on K and others (VT-D, vPro)... -
edogawa Probably most of us upgrade the motherboard with the processor at the same time,Reply
so I don't think BGA is such a bad idea, but there's issues still.
If the motherboard gets damaged or dies while the processor is fine isn't that a bit of a issue cost wise?
High end chips should should remain LGA for gamers and enthusiasts because they won't want to spend 600 instead of 300 to replace a motherboard or CPU. This will make warranties much more appreciated probably. BGA is limiting choice a bit too. -
Cy-Kill It really seems to me that CPU makers have hit a ceiling and not being able to get CPUs above 3.x GHz.Reply
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