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Adobe Responds to Steve Jobs' 'Lazy' Comments

By - Source: Tom's Hardware US

Flash won't be replaced by HTML5 anytime soon, according to this CTO.

Earlier this month Steve Jobs made headlines when he declared that Google's "Don’t Be Evil!" motto was a load of crap and Adobe was just plain lazy. Now, Adobe doesn’t take kindly to that kind of talk and on Tuesday, CTO Kevin Lynch took to the Adobe blog to discuss the future of Flash.

Beginning with the snide snipe, "Some have been surprised at the lack of inclusion of Flash Player on a recent magical device," Lynch published a blog post defending Flash, which Steve Jobs said was pretty much dead anyway. According to Jobs, Flash will soon be obsolete because, "the world is moving toward HTML5."

Lynch points out that over 85 percent of the top web sites contain Flash content and Flash runs on over 98 percent of computers on the Web. "It is used for the majority of casual games, video, and animation on the Web and familiar brands like Nike, Hulu, BBC, Major League Baseball, and more rely on Flash to deliver the most compelling experiences to over a billion people," he writes.

Lynch also disagrees with the notion that soon HTML5 will replace Flash. "Some point to HTML as eventually supplanting the need for Flash," he writes, adding that he doesn't see it happening in the foreseeable future. Mr. Lynch claims that users and content creators could be 'thrown back to the dark ages of video on the web' if faced with the compatibility issues of HTML5.

"Adobe supports HTML and its evolution and we look forward to adding more capabilities to our software around HTML as it evolves. If HTML could reliably do everything Flash does that would certainly save us a lot of effort, but that does not appear to be coming to pass. Even in the case of video, where Flash is enabling over 75% of video on the Web today, the coming HTML video implementations cannot agree on a common format across browsers, so users and content creators would be thrown back to the dark ages of video on the Web with incompatibility issues."

And, in contrast to Steve's statement about Adobe being 'lazy' and not doing enough with its potential, Lynch says:

"We have shown that Flash technology is starting to work on these [Apple] devices today by enabling standalone applications for the iPhone to be built on Flash … This same solution will work on the iPad as well."

According to Lynch Adobe is ready to enable Flash in the browser on these devices "if and when Apple chooses to allow that for its users," but to date Adobe has not had the required cooperation from Apple to make this happen.

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  • 27
    deltatux , February 5, 2010 12:45 AM
    If only did the big companies like Apple and Google both allowed to use OGG as the HTML5 issue, Flash video really would be extinct and said standard would be in the forefront. However, Apple really needs to wake up and put Flash into its products. I can't think of a computer or device that I use that doesn't have Flash. Hell even typing on this Macbook I have Flash installed...
  • 32
    grieve , February 5, 2010 12:50 AM
    ""According to Lynch Adobe is ready to enable Flash in the browser on these devices "if and when Apple chooses to allow that for its users," but to date Adobe has not had the required cooperation from Apple to make this happen.""

    I believe this... Apple SUX!
  • 23
    marsax73 , February 5, 2010 12:53 AM
    I don't see how someone would be able to surf the internet without having Flash. It's used all over the place.
  • 22
    Zinosys , February 5, 2010 12:56 AM
    Yup. I have flash on the macbook I'm typing on. The tables have turned. I don't think Adobe is the lazy one here...
  • 22
    Jazzmain , February 5, 2010 1:02 AM
    Apple = Nazi
    Jobs = Hilter

    There I said it, now we don't have to wait for the Godwin's Law to come into play.
  • 19
    Zinosys , February 5, 2010 1:03 AM
    That's what I just said. Apple is the lazy one..? What I was saying is that I have flash on my macbook, I don't see why Apple can't integrate flash into the ipad.
  • 26
    Tomtompiper , February 5, 2010 1:13 AM
    Silicon Jesus, I amy running Linux with Flash and have had no trouble. When was the last time you tried Linux???
  • 10
    wavebossa , February 5, 2010 1:20 AM
    Steve Jobs is the only reason Apple is still a company (well that and ridicolous monopoly charges on microsoft). Steve Jobs is a business genius.

    That being said... this is kinda hard to believe that he would say something so stupid. I want everyone to pay close attention to what I am about to say (I am a computer science major 3rd year so i know a little bit of what i'm talking about).

    Coming out with superiour software DOES NOT mean that the older software is obselute!!!

    Its just that simple ladies and gentlemen. Flash has dug its nails DEEP into our web life, and removing it will be a PAINFUL experience. I do beleive flash's days are numbered, but come on, there is no way it will go away anytime soon. Video sites, online games, and other useful browsing features will have to be completely rewritten.

    If any of you have worked in retail, you will know that most stores use archaic technology in their systems. Do they use this technology because they have no otehr choice? No. They use it because it works, and thats enough for them.

    The only catalyst that I can forsee finishing off flash is its lack of security. But even that is not a big enough factor to overthrow the web giant in time to save Steve Jobs from some serious humiliation.
  • 22
    gayan , February 5, 2010 1:29 AM
    Apple is afraid that if they would allow Flash support in the iPhone/iPod/iPad, then users will download free games and other flash based software, which will reduce The Steve Jobs Cut (=the margin they keep on the stuff sold on iTunes)
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  • 32
    grieve , February 5, 2010 12:50 AM
    ""According to Lynch Adobe is ready to enable Flash in the browser on these devices "if and when Apple chooses to allow that for its users," but to date Adobe has not had the required cooperation from Apple to make this happen.""

    I believe this... Apple SUX!
  • 27
    deltatux , February 5, 2010 12:45 AM
    If only did the big companies like Apple and Google both allowed to use OGG as the HTML5 issue, Flash video really would be extinct and said standard would be in the forefront. However, Apple really needs to wake up and put Flash into its products. I can't think of a computer or device that I use that doesn't have Flash. Hell even typing on this Macbook I have Flash installed...
  • 26
    Tomtompiper , February 5, 2010 1:13 AM
    Silicon Jesus, I amy running Linux with Flash and have had no trouble. When was the last time you tried Linux???
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