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Apple: A PC is No Bargain!

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Apple this week contested Microsoft’s recent (and pretty valid) statements that PCs are cheaper.

Over the last few weeks Microsoft has been making headlines all over the net regarding the company’s latest advertising endeavors in its Laptop Hunters series. Microsoft’s main point: PCs are cheaper than Macs. This week, Apple says otherwise.

While perusing the web we came across your typical Mac vs PC story on BusinessWeek. Something about what you’re not getting for your $699 when you buy a PC. Basically, sure $699 for a HP is better than $2,800 for a Mac but what about the money you’ll spend on all the extras for your HP? Setting aside hardware differences between the two (like screen quality and battery life) PC users will spend extra on software like decent virus protection and iLife, which endeavors to take care of all your photo and video-editing needs. Then you’ve got the fact that a GeekSqaud diagnosis is $129 versus the free Genius Bar diagnosis at Apple stores. Arik Hesseldahl’s point is, replicating what you get with a Mac will cost you in the end. Buried in the conclusion of this article is a quote from Apple.

Up until now the Cupertino-based company had been fairly quiet with regards to the MS ads. Apple threw the first snowball with the Mac vs PC ads featuring Justin Long and John Hodgman. Now that Microsoft had taken the bait and retaliated with its own “I’m a PC” themed campaign, the company was off doing other, more important things than playing I-am-rubber-you-are-glue with rivals. Apple broke its silence this week and what its spokesperson chose to say was really stupid and only served to reinforce the common belief that Macs are all about aesthetics. Way to go Apple.

"A PC is no bargain when it doesn't do what you want," Apple spokesman Bill Evans told Arik Hesseldahl. Then, ruining this collected, matter of fact comment, he goes on to add just a smidge of pompous, self-importance, "The one thing that both Apple and Microsoft can agree on is that everyone thinks the Mac is cool. With its great designs and advanced software, nothing matches it at any price." So close, yet so far.

Microsoft declined to comment on the issue of users paying more in the long run for all the extras they’ll need for their machine. Maybe in Laptop Hunters Episode IV.

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    Anonymous , April 17, 2009 10:27 PM
    If you know what your doing, you shouldnt need to spend a dime on anti-virus software or any "geek squad" sinkhole..
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    keither5150 , April 17, 2009 10:34 PM
    Wow!

    All of my photo and video editing needs are met with free programs that come with Vista home premium. I have been using AVG free edition virus protection for the past 7 years without incident. In fact all 71 PC's that I take care of at work use AVG free edition as well. I don't put anything on the Macs at work.

    Microsoft's reply should be laughter.

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    jecht , April 17, 2009 10:33 PM
    Yeah, everyone will think you're cool for spending way too much money on a computer.
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  • 59 Hide
    Anonymous , April 17, 2009 10:27 PM
    If you know what your doing, you shouldnt need to spend a dime on anti-virus software or any "geek squad" sinkhole..
  • 37 Hide
    jecht , April 17, 2009 10:33 PM
    Yeah, everyone will think you're cool for spending way too much money on a computer.
  • 39 Hide
    keither5150 , April 17, 2009 10:34 PM
    Wow!

    All of my photo and video editing needs are met with free programs that come with Vista home premium. I have been using AVG free edition virus protection for the past 7 years without incident. In fact all 71 PC's that I take care of at work use AVG free edition as well. I don't put anything on the Macs at work.

    Microsoft's reply should be laughter.

  • 34 Hide
    simplyderp , April 17, 2009 10:35 PM
    Macs and pre-built computers suck equally.
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    sot010174 , April 17, 2009 10:35 PM
    Free:
    Avira antivir is a great Free product.
    Picasa will work as ILife does.
    Zonealarm is a great firewall.

    Cmon ppl continue adding softwares to this list.
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    jsloan , April 17, 2009 10:41 PM
    there are free antivirus software, avg, when you buy a pc from dell you normally get 1+ year of norton. most isp give customer free pc internet security suite. sure apple has ilife, iwork, act, but there are simular products for pc. even free ones like open office, sure it sucks, but hey what do you want for free. it's understandable that microsoft needs to do a better job. spend some of its money and create better software and sure iwork and ilife are inexpensive when compared to office, but hey you already paid through the nose for an apple, so they give you a break on some of their software, but the aperture, final cut, logic studio, ect start to become expensive...
  • 15 Hide
    jsloan , April 17, 2009 10:43 PM
    simplyderpMacs and pre-built computers suck equally.


    yeap, i like to build my own pc, i pick all the parts i want, sure it takes a little bit of work, but i end up with a daemon of a machine for a lot less money.
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    MafiaAce , April 17, 2009 10:44 PM
    Hasn't apple ever heard of open source software?

    Oh wait, they love to stomp on that stuff...
    Everything I need to do on a PC can be accomplished with free, effective software which is updated constantly by a dedicated community of users.
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    mkb5150 , April 17, 2009 10:49 PM
    So the MAXIMUM you can spend on a PC might come close to what you have to pay for a Mac, but how many PC users really end up having to pay anywhere near that much? Most people I know don't go to Geek Squad once a month, buy overpriced software, etc. With a PC, it's your choice if you want to spend that much. With a Mac, you have no choice.
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    The Schnoz , April 17, 2009 10:56 PM
    They're barking up the wrong tree here. I build my own PC's, but when I buy a laptop I format it anyway. I don't want the free shit that comes with them, yet alone with a Mac. The reason I choose PC is because I feel I have more freedom to choose between competing products. If I want a certain computer part, Windows accepts it, if I want a certain peice of software, it's made for Windows. If I want to play video games, watch Blu-ray, use a specific motherboard, videocard, memory, AMD products, Wireless adapter, router, memory card reader, etc. etc. etc. WINDOWS. WINDOWS. WINDOWS.
  • 3 Hide
    grieve , April 17, 2009 10:59 PM
    I hate to be a fanboy..

    Sometimes i simply hate Apple, I could never own one. (unless it were better then PC)
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    duckmanx88 , April 17, 2009 11:24 PM
    fail Apple. I use AVG free and it cost me $35 to have my pc fixed when a transformer blew and fried my hard drive. you act as if everyone edits photos and videos. you can find those basic software for free on cnet.
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    eddieroolz , April 17, 2009 11:49 PM
    Nice, Microsoft got Apple to respond directly to their ads. Now Apple looks like they're the aggressive/obnoxious one.

    Another win for Microsoft. Apple is turning into desperation mode, the direct reply to a Microsoft commercial shows it.
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    mamw93 , April 18, 2009 12:08 AM
    Nobody gets the geek squad diagnosis. And PC's come with Windows Movie Maker and Windows Live Photo Editor. And with a PC you can FULLY customize what you want in it... not like in a Mac where you just HAVE to take what they give you and shut up.
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    michaelahess , April 18, 2009 12:10 AM
    keither5150Wow! All of my photo and video editing needs are met with free programs that come with Vista home premium. I have been using AVG free edition virus protection for the past 7 years without incident. In fact all 71 PC's that I take care of at work use AVG free edition as well. I don't put anything on the Macs at work.Microsoft's reply should be laughter.


    I think you just said too much about your AVG free usage.......
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    Parrdacc , April 18, 2009 12:12 AM
    Well these people are about as idiotic as their customers or is that they are smarter and are just taking advantage of their customers while at the same time giving them a false sense that they actually know what they are doing? Here are some problems, at least imho, with their argument:

    "PC users will spend extra on software like decent virus protection and iLife, which endeavors to take care of all your photo and video-editing needs."

    1. Decent virus protection can be had for free.
    2. If I bought a PC why would I even consider using iLife anyway?

    "Then you’ve got the fact that a GeekSqaud diagnosis is $129 versus the free Genius Bar diagnosis at Apple stores."

    1. Yes owning a PC does require a person to actually learn to use a computer and how it works thereby allowing the person to become a better user and more knowledgeable of the technology surrounding it.
    2. Apples Genius Bar from what I have seen just shows a person how to perform a specific set of tasks and that's it. Hardly qualifies a person as a genius.

    ***Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a life time.****

    "The one thing that both Apple and Microsoft can agree on is that everyone thinks the Mac is cool."

    1. Yes. They are nice to look at. That is till you see the sticker price. Cool? That is debatable. But that phase shows Apples arrogant, self important, and pompous attitude that for some reason seems to instill itself like a cancer in those that buy into them.

    Seems like every Apple user I run into knows little or nothing of their cool, aesthetic pleasing computer. If something goes wrong they just hot foot it down to the Apple store where they shell even more money to get it fixed. Lets not forget parts and labor. With a PC, granted I build my own, I rarely have any problems and if I do I and most other PC users know exactly what we need to do and/or need to buy to get things right again and because of this we, at the very least, bypass the labor costs.
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    echdskech , April 18, 2009 12:21 AM
    "PC users will spend extra on software like decent virus protection and iLife, which endeavors to take care of all your photo and video-editing needs."

    I always hear Apple reiterating time and again that they're a _hardware_ company, not a software house. Why then would they even bother mentioning software "superiority" when MS' ads target hardware sales.

    This phase of the PC vs Mac war is funny. The "hardware" company is marketing their software and the software company is marketing (not even their own) hardware.
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    captaincharisma , April 18, 2009 12:26 AM
    LOL this is bad there was more truth in the MS ad then apples response to it. if you buy a brand name PC does it not already come with programs like internet security and other programs that are basically the same that is on a mac. most programs pre-installed have a year trial or somthing but still your getting better value with a PC
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    ph3412b07 , April 18, 2009 12:29 AM
    QQ more. I really cannot imagine this Apple spokesperson actually representing the mindset of employees and customers. For the record...not everybody thinks Mac is cool. Heck, even my Design and Manufacturing professor who was a VP for Apple(when they were doing well) left to teach because he could not stand Macintosh (ipods however, are another story).
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    doomhammr , April 18, 2009 12:31 AM
    Um...Macs don't play games last I checked which is what I want.
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