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Educational Math-Based FPS Ignites Protest

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Parents are protesting against an educational PC game funded by the Department of Defense.

Currently Albuquerque, New Mexico parents are in an uproar over a PC game designed to teach math to students at Madison Middle School--one of three Albuquerque Public Schools that's using the high-action PC game which is fully-funded by a grant from the Department of Defense.

According to the school's science department head Gary Bodman, the game--DimensionM (multiplayer) from Tabula Digita-- is "something that [is] just like a 21-century flash card," covering math subjects ranging from basic properties to algebra.

Doesn't sound harmful, right? After all, it's backed by the government. It's also not designed to replace the teacher, but rather to reinforce what the students have already learned in class. They get to use jetpacks, shoot a green goo gun (ripped from UT series), and endure plenty of math-charged action that is apparently doing the trick.

But local Albuquerque parents don't see it that way. They're complaining about the game's action-oriented content, and are starting a crusade to get it banned from the schools.

"We are feeding the addiction of these children to video games," said one parent. "They were all excited … because of the violence."

One comment from a student could be a prime example of the parents' concern. "I don't like to leave," the student said. "If I could have a choice to play this night and day, all summer, I would play it every day." On the other hand, the student also said that he had no idea what prime numbers were until he got a chance to play DimensionM.

"What the recall is, is not the prime number they were talking about, but rather getting through to the enemy," the same parent retaliated.

Despite recent protests, DimensionM has been around for many years, played by students all across the nation. There are even large-scale tournaments where students get together and battle it out in the name of math. Starting a crusade against the game may be a little moot at this point.

"Anything we can do to meet the kids on their own grounds and educate them is to our advantage," Bodman added. Interested parents and educators can download a demo that is playable on the Internet.

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sliem 06/09/2010 1:13 AM
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Parents don't know what they want let alone what their kids' wants.

bearracuda 06/09/2010 1:15 AM
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Without DimensionM:
"I love recess mom, I got to hit timmy with a stick!"
"That's nice dear."

With DimensionM:
"I love school, mom, I know prime numbers now, and I got to shoot a goop gun in the computer!"
"THOSE MONSTERS! HOW DARE THEY CORRUPT MY CHILD!?"

jomofro39 06/09/2010 1:12 AM
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This is sad. Poor children. Keep them on lock-down now and they will rebel in the future.

jacobdrj 06/09/2010 1:15 AM
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We all know that the DoD is just programming sleeper agents for future use in the US' battles with the un-free world... Project Christmas...

Glorian 06/09/2010 1:22 AM
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God forbid these parents actually practice discipline in their homes and monitor their game playing or habits. The school actually does something the students like and these parents want to all over it. Hell instead of modernizing education lets keep it old school and bring back the paddle!

beckstrom12 06/09/2010 1:23 AM
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If I had a FPS to learn math in middle school I believe whole heartedly I would've scored higher on test and also it would reinforce what I learned.

jacobdrj 06/09/2010 1:21 AM
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I had an 3rd person, umm, eater(?) when I was in school. NUMBER MUNCHER FOREVER!!!

Man that used to get competitive: Who competed for computer time, who competed for score etc...

I have fond memory of those 8-colored Texas Instruments cartridge-based computers... Good times...

CoryInJapan 06/09/2010 1:23 AM
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Man, if its getting kids this enthusiastic about learning.Im all for it.I see no harm in it as long as they Keep PE in school and the importance of a healthy body.

Wish they would have had this in my days in elementary/jr.high.

jaysbob 06/09/2010 1:37 AM
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I agree with the parents, math related violence is really tearing our society apart!

Strider-Hiryu_79 06/09/2010 1:48 AM
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Love the old fogies who love to blame video games for all of life's problems.

Bless your frail hearts.

thedreadfather 06/09/2010 1:52 AM
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So the school district targets an aspect of these kids lives that they consider fun and entertaining and exploiting it for educational purposes to create a fun and educational game, the school district has managed to tick off parents? This school finally has figured out how to hype up kids up for middle school and learning (not easy, I believe) only to be shot down by a small group of ignorant parents. Disgusting.

What the hell is wrong with these parents? The kids are not killing based on the story (OH NO! NOT THE GOOP SHOOTER THAT ONLY RUNS OFF BASIC MATH OPERATIONS! IT'LL RUIN MY HAIR AND HELP YOU LEARN! THE HORROR!). The kid even said he had no idea what prime numbers were before he played the game. Go take your wasted effort and apply it for stuff that really matters, like suicide or teen pregnancy.

Just another case of one (or a few, there was no mention of how many parents) person ruining all the fun (and education) for everybody else. I guarantee that these parents have wondered/said: "You don't know X? What the hell is wrong with our educational system?"

gm0n3y 06/09/2010 1:53 AM
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As long as the game is truly educational then how is this harmful?

Assmar 06/09/2010 2:00 AM
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Math is the enemy, we must shoot it in the face like we would a nazi, or a dinosaur, or a nazi-dinosaur.

But way back in the day when it was first introduced to the west, Algebra itself was regarded as useless abstract number games, until scholars learned how to properly apply it to the real world.

spunkymunky 06/09/2010 2:05 AM
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Violent video games are only a problem if parents can't teach their children the difference between reality and play. I for one support learning through video games. FPS require full attention so mixing scholastic learning with it should mean higher retention rate faster.

omikron48 06/09/2010 2:44 AM
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When I read that the DOD was backing it, I was imagining kids being taught math by computing firing solutions for projectiles. LOL

Not a bad idea too, since it involves, physics and trigonometry. Maybe a potential training tool for high school or maybe early college students. Kinda like what billiards is to engineers.

v1ze 06/09/2010 3:16 AM
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These parents just want attention. I wish the media would stop giving it to them.

tharkis842 06/09/2010 3:36 AM
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Oh my god..are you fu**ing serious!? These parents should be grateful, their kids would probably be off playing GTA4 or GOW otherwise, atleast with this game they're learning valuable math skills. The teaching "games" i used in school were terrible, they made me want to skip class. I'd have payed more attention if they were more robust like this program seems to be.

falchard 06/09/2010 3:45 AM
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Dungeons and Dragons is still the best tool to supplement math and english for elementary and middle schoolers.

beckstrom12 06/09/2010 4:08 AM
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Sorry one more comment. Games and school bring me back to memories, in high school I played drug wars all during math, if parents only knew what was on their own kids calculators.

lightbulbsocket 06/09/2010 4:57 AM
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I think there's a much more important question that needs to be asked here. Why aren't today's youth being given the opportunity to have themselves and several of their inappropriately named friends hunt bears, ford rivers, and die of dysentery along the Oregon Trail? That's the real tragedy here.

dEAne 06/09/2010 5:09 AM
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There are lots of children in the world who see computers only on TV why not gave it to them.

FloKid 06/09/2010 5:28 AM
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A little overprotective? Mom's should know better lol.

Mennoknight 06/09/2010 5:35 AM
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Yeah, they should keep them off this horrible math game and it's goo gun.

It's much safer for these kids to chainsaw up enemies on Gears of War in the hypocrisy of their own home.

zmbcat 06/09/2010 7:13 AM
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how about a game like that with university level math...i could use some motivation.

liquidsnake718 06/09/2010 7:30 AM
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i remember playing carmen sandiego and the appalacian trail

kingssman 06/09/2010 7:52 AM
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When i was in grade school, we had a math game called "number bomber" an old DOS game, where you flew a jet and bombed targets, but in order to gain ammo / refuel / get missiles and bombs, you had to answer a series of math questions within a matter of seconds. bullets were simple addition problems, while big missiles and bombs were double digit multiplication and division. We would have an entire team of students cracking the various math problems so we can faceroll with our uber bomber and its numerous weapons.

HappyBB 06/09/2010 8:52 AM
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I think the parents should understand more about the content to objectively judge the game. Moreover, they should play a more active role in overseeing their children playing this game, not letting them become addictive. I believe this is a tool to do good for the children in learning math, not violence.

techguy378 06/09/2010 8:48 AM
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I suppose these same parents think that Super Mario Bros. is overly violent as well.

tarzan2001 06/09/2010 9:57 AM
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1. Doesn't anyone remember Math Blaster and other games?? Those were great educational programs! If this game isn't showing blood and gore, and the kids are actually learning math, what's the harm in using it in school?

2. I really have to play this game. As a hardcore gamer, there have only been a few times that I've come across a game that's made me want to say anything like, "If I could have a choice to play this night and day, all summer, I would play it every day." And this game is about MATH!!? WTF?! I need to check this out!

3. I live in Albuquerque, and yes, there are A LOT of idiotic parents here. :P I think these idiotic notions that surface every once-in-a-while are due effects from all the radiation in our state of New Mexico. After all, the first atomic bomb was tested here, and they're still dumping nuclear waste from all around the country deep in the caverns. I wonder if all the radioactive waste will make our state glow green if viewed from outer space.... ;P

wolfseeker2828 06/09/2010 10:08 AM
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heck, my elementary school used video games all the time! Oregon Trail, Kid Pix, MathBlasters, typing games...they were everywhere! That's probably the basis of why I am studying to become an engineer, because I was exposed to technology at an early age. An FPS is not going to kill a child's minds...did you know chess is based on war strategies? You don't see parents thinking their child is going to create an army and take over the world by playing chess, do you? But thinking that playing an FPS will cause your kid to be violent or go out and shoot people is just as ridiculous.

Drag0nR1der 06/09/2010 11:02 AM
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seriously, I wonder if these parents even think their kids are developing problems, or whther they are just reacting out of fear and misunderstanding.

A child which is exposed to caring caring and loving parents, who take an interest in their lives, and spend time with them playing games, going for walks and doing stuff that enables and teaches them to create relationships and develop empathy should never need to fear the effect of eposure to violent games, tv programmes or films. Do we again need to raise the example of Tom and Jerry?

Yes if a kid solely played violent video games in their free and other time its bound to have a detrimental affect on their lives, but as part of a balanced and healthy life there is no reason it should have a negative effect. Similarly if violent games were the sole method of teaching then yes it would be an issue... but as a part of an overall education system, again there is no reason for it to be anything other than an effective teaching method.

Emotion is tied to education, if your education is dry and tedious. It's things liek this that really make me fear the UK government's current education proposals to put more power over schools in parents hands.


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