Oops! Microsoft Loses All Sidekick Users' Data

Next news
6:50 PM - October 12, 2009 by Jane McEntegart

Should we really have to remind Microsoft to make a backup if the data you're trying to protect is important or you know, not yours? No, we shouldn't. Tut, tut, tut.

Sidekick owners experienced a service outage last weekend. Given that the Sidekick does practically everything over the cloud, that means users couldn't access stuff like their calendars, photos, contacts or email. Buh-ummer, right? Well, it gets worse. WAY worse. Microsoft and T-Mobile have notified users that that "outage" might be permanent.

A "server failure" at Danger, the Microsoft-owned subsidiary that makes the Sidekick, has wiped out all user data. Anything stored on the server is gone with the wind. Microsoft said that Sidekick owners who haven't switched off their device can probably salvage what's stored locally but other than that, the likelihood that the company will be able to recover the data is "extremely low."

So what happened? Well, the bunny ears around the aforementioned server failure are there for a reason. At the moment, there's a rumor doing the rounds that Danger didn't backup user data before a SAN (Storage Area Network) upgrade. The company had Hitachi in to do the job for them and for some reason, no one at Danger backed anything up before Hitachi did the deed. Hiptop3 cites several sources who say something went wrong during the upgrade, everything was lost and there was no working backup to save the day.

Any Sidekick owners in the house and willing to share their tragic story? Let us know how your weekend panned out in the comments below.

Source : Tom's Hardware US

Talkback
Add your comment
cookies 10/12/2009 5:36 PM
Hide
-20+

I don't have a Sidekick...but this is completely unacceptable. For whatever reason, people trust companies with their data, and this situation does quite a bit to undermine that.

JasonAkkerman 10/12/2009 5:55 PM
Hide
-4+

There is no excuse for that. I'm sure lost of people lost their jobs because of this.

So what happens now? Are all sidekick phones dead, or is it just a clean slate?

amabhy 10/12/2009 5:55 PM
Hide
-20+

Yet another reason why cloud computing is over-rated.

NoCaDrummer 10/12/2009 5:56 PM
Hide
-20+

So do we need any other reason to NOT trust Clod Computing. I mean "Cloud" Computing?

Regulas 10/12/2009 5:58 PM
Hide
-10+

I guess it must suck for those people who put their faith in Cloud Computing and Microsoft.

CoryInJapan 10/12/2009 5:59 PM
Hide
-3+

HAHA wow.That sucks for them I guess.Not making a backup is the biggest mistake they could of made.

phantastic 10/12/2009 5:59 PM
Hide
-1+

My brother was a victim of the BS. They gave him a free month of service. What a load of crap. Hitachi arrays are garbage. Should have stuck with EMC arrays.

cookoy 10/12/2009 6:03 PM
Hide
-20+

Wow! Putting all your cookies in one jar. One server for all my data. Are they using MS Home Server version 1.0? You should know better! Didn't you read the sign? "Danger!"

hellwig 10/12/2009 6:06 PM
Hide
-1+

Oh come on now. That's got to be a few dozen terabytes of data, and they WERE running a RAID 5, so what danger was there to begin with?

Hah, did you catch that little pun there, danger, and the company's name is Danger! Hahaha.... wait, WTF!?!?! Why would you name your company Danger? After this fiasco, sounds like someone is already making plans to change that little ditty.

ssalim 10/12/2009 6:07 PM
Hide
-15+

I smell lawsuits coming.
They are so careless.

Bunz_of_Steel 10/12/2009 6:11 PM
Show
reichscythe 10/12/2009 6:24 PM
Hide
-6+

Wouldn't it be nice if "the invisible hand" worked the way it was supposed to and all of these customers' "demand" for Sidekick service suddenly evaporated along with their data--sending the telecommunications division of MS into an unrecoverable tailspin?

This likely won't happen will it?

Where the hell is Adam Smith??

Yoder54 10/12/2009 6:31 PM
Hide
-6+

The same story elsewhere states: "Microsoft has demonstrated that the dark side of cloud computing has no silver linings."

Makes you wonder just how much of a role MS is playing in this or if they did anything to insure that this type of failure never happens. If cloud computing does not when favor with the consumer, then we are back to using the same old office apps...the very apps the MS dominates the market share.

uh_no 10/12/2009 6:40 PM
Hide
-5+

who the f*** doesn't back up large amounts of user data?

fflam 10/12/2009 6:43 PM
Hide
-1+

my girlfriend has a sidekick slide. it froze this Sunday and well.. poof all the data gone.

cruiseoveride 10/12/2009 6:53 PM
Hide
-5+

Quote :the likelihood that the company will be able to recover the data is "extremely low."

Did the hard drive get smashed into smithereens by terrorists?

sunflier 10/12/2009 6:55 PM
Hide
-3+

Quote :Danger didn't backup user data before a SAN upgrade.

Quote :Hiptop3 cites several sources who say something went wrong during the upgrade...


If true and data wasnt backed up before upgrade then nothing "went wrong" during the upgrade.

What went "wrong" was Danger's idiot IT admins who didnt plan a backup before Hitachi showed up. Even if contracted to have Hitachi back it up you are still taking too big a risk and being naive about it.

tester24 10/12/2009 7:14 PM
Hide
-0+

LOL that's funny! Knew the whole "cloud" idea for a phone was a stupid concept. At least when I lose my phone it's my fault if I didn't have the phone data backed up. But then again the people who expect a company to do everything for you like a backup and don't take simple precautions like backing up your own phone data are dumb to begin with. Do I feel sorry for them not one bit.

jeraldjunkmail 10/12/2009 7:33 PM
Hide
-2+

ssalim :
I smell lawsuits coming.They are so careless.




Correction, "class action lawsuit". Could be a big one. Some lawyer out there is already drafting the suit documents...

wildwell 10/12/2009 7:43 PM
Hide
--2+

They won't make that mistake again.

waffle911 10/12/2009 8:15 PM
Hide
-1+

Quote :A "server failure" at Danger, the Microsoft-owned subsidiary that makes the Sidekick, has wiped out all user data. Anything stored on the server is gone with the wind...the likelihood that the company will be able to recover the data is "extremely low."

...and that's how cloud computing died.

xrodney 10/12/2009 8:18 PM
Hide
-3+

Storing user data over cloud and not having redundancy or backup is just lame. Agree that there should be class action lawsuit and good job for microsoft making cloud computing really "nice" promotion.

techguy378 10/12/2009 8:31 PM
Hide
--1+

The Sidekick never was a very smart phone. I'm not sure why so many people flocked to a phone like the Sidekick that was made by some small no name company (Danger) when there were better alternatives like Palm and Windows Mobile. The Sidekick in its various incarnations has always been one of the most problematic phones that T-Mobile has ever sold. The Sidekick is as much of a smart phone as the Nuviphone from Garmin. Suckers.

jhansonxi 10/12/2009 8:33 PM
Hide
-8+

Time to update the "no warranty expressed or implied" section of the EULA again.

dragos_craciun 10/12/2009 9:19 PM
Hide
--1+

Murphy's law: If something can go wrong it will :)
I wonder who are the masterminds of this architecture. I mean ... a contact data will not be bigger than 1k, and most of us don't have 1000 contacts, so a few megs would have been enough to secure the most important data like contacts, calendar etc. Most of modern phones have gigabytes of memory. Why not store critical things on the device too? The design team = LOOSERS + STUPIDS. Probably together with the upper management that cut the costs and discarded a safer but more expansive design.
We will never loose customer data ... yeah, right. YOU JUST DID!

dragos_craciun 10/12/2009 9:21 PM
Hide
-9+

wildwell :
They won't make that mistake again.


Right. They will make a different one.

ZeroTech 10/12/2009 9:24 PM
Hide
-1+

Heads will fly!!
For a company now days to not backup their data is inexcusable.
Even I have my data backed up at 2 other places. A secondary HDD and at remote server.
Also, forget about the backup before the update. What happened to last week's backup, or EVEN LAST MONTH's? None of those were made?

I know backing up TBs of data is expensive. But they are in a worst position now.

dragos_craciun 10/12/2009 9:25 PM
Hide
-2+

cruiseoveride :
Did the hard drive get smashed into smithereens by terrorists?


No. Probably they rebuilt the RAID volumes. Tadaaaaa!!

dragos_craciun 10/12/2009 9:37 PM
Hide
-0+

ZeroTech :
What happened to last week's backup, or EVEN LAST MONTH's? None of those were made? I know backing up TBs of data is expensive. But they are in a worst position now.



1TB HDD is 100$. And it's reusable. I know it's not that simple. But I cannot imagine that a solution to backup up data at a reasonable level of security and reliability will cost more than let's say 1000$/TB/Month

Oh. Another very important thing: CHECK THE BACKUP!!!!
A long long time ago a customer made daily backups only to discover that for some reason they were corrupted and unusable. Thank god the one week old full backup was good and we only had to type in a week of work. Because at that time (8 years ago) they still had a lot of paper.

agentjon 10/12/2009 11:00 PM
Hide
-0+

I never knew the Sidekick was a MS thing. I had one efor a year before I upgraded to a MDA after 3 years of that I downgraded to a L2.

otacon72 10/13/2009 12:21 PM
Hide
-1+

Normally I don't like to curse but...how do you not make absolutely fucking sure the data is backed up before doing ANYTHING to the servers? I work for a mid-sized company with field personal and we do use cloud but we also have offsite protected backup. If I didn't back up every damn bit of data on the servers at our HQ before doing anything to them and it was all lost? I wouldn't just be fired I'd be sued and rightly so. Yes people make mistakes but this should've never ever happened.

Danger had no offsite backup for anything?? That's borderline criminal incompetance. How can you not backup such crital data to an outside datafarm or something once a week?

I can see the lawyers for T-Mobile and Danger going over their TOS's right now seeing if they can be sued. Danger's entire IT Dept needs to be fired.


Sponsored links

Related articles

  • Everyone knows about Swiss Army knives, pocket multi-tools that have everything but the kitchen sink. Well now you can add a USB memory stick onto that list of features. This pocket-sized wonder makes a perfect stocking stuffer. In addition to a 128 MB USB memory stick, you get scissors, a knife, nail file, ball point pen and a red light. The small knife is extremely sharp, as we unfortunately found out; we cut ourselves several times, while extracting all the tools from the knife. Be careful! This Swiss Army Knife sells for $94 and can be purchased through the Swiss-Knife.com website Sex And The Sidekick If a regular cell phone is too boring for you, then try the T-Mobile Sidekick II. Mrs. Claus loves the flip-out screen and built-in keyboard. This seven ounce tri-band phone with an integrated speakerphone has enough features to satisfy any gadget freak. The color screen flips out to reveal a full keyboard, so you can send and receive email or surf the Web. Keeping in touch with everyone is easy with built-in AOL Instant Messenger, and the integrated camera with flash lets you send cool pictures to all your friends. What more could you ask for? The suggested retail price for the T-Mobile Sidekick II is $299.99; it is available on the T-Mobile website

Ads
Ads
All about Storage Solutions
 Latest Storage Solutions articles
Managing Backup: Three Software Solutions Compared

Managing Backup: Three Software Solutions Compared
Portable hard drives are great backup targets. But should you use the ubiquitous Windows utility, a higher-end tool, or a brainless, consumer-friendly solution? We looked at Windows 7 Backup, True Image 2010 Home by Acronis, and Rebit’s consumer backup. Read More

All Storage Solutions articles
 Storage Solutions performance charts
All performance charts
 Latest Storage Solutions news
All Storage Solutions news

Newsletters


  • Ask your question about IT issues
  • Post

Partners

Ads

Sponsored links