Raspberry Pi Should Achieve "2X The iPhone 4S Performance"
The Raspberry PI will supposedly outperform the new iPhone 4S across a range of content.
In an interview with Digital Foundry, Raspberry Pi executive director Eben Upton claims that the little $25/$35 credit card-sized PC will crank out twice the performance of the iPhone 4S "across a range of content." He even trashes Tegra while comparing his home-grown GPU core to Nvidia's mobile solution.
"I was on the team that designed the graphics core, so I'm a little biased here, but I genuinely believe we have the best mobile GPU team in the world at Broadcom in Cambridge," he said. "What's really striking is how badly Tegra 2 performs relative even to simple APs using licensed Imagination Technologies (TI and Apple) or ARM Mali (Samsung) graphics."
"To summarize, BCM2835 has a tile mode architecture - so it kills immediate-mode devices like Tegra on fill-rate - and we've chosen to configure it with a very large amount of shader performance, so it does very well on compute-intensive benchmarks, and should double iPhone 4S performance across a range of content," he added.
Also in the interview he revealed that the Raspberry Pi can be overclocked, although users won't be able to push it more that 100 MHz above the current 700 MHz core clock speed. "The ARM is already fairly close to the edge at 700 MHz," he said. "Without overvolting the chip (which decreases lifetime), there's not much more than 100 MHz of overclocking headroom on typical silicon. We do offer a clock speed tweak option in the boot configuration parameters, so if you get lucky and get a fast part you can exploit it."
Upton also indicated that his team has talked with Microsoft about using Windows 8 on the device, but the upcoming OS will require an ARMv7 (Cortex) processor, and won't run on the Raspberry Pi's current ARM11 core. A future version might support the new Windows platform, as there seems to be a lot of interest in running Windows-based applications.
As it stands now, Raspberry Pi runs Linux which will play host to a wide range of programing environments. Already lined up for the credit card platform are Scratch, Logo and Kid's Ruby for younger children and beginners, and tools like YoYo Games' GameMaker. Raspberry Pi will also support fully-fledged professional tools like Python and C. Even XBMC runs "beautifully" on Raspberry Pi.
After years in development, the first production run of 10,000 units will be available for purchase within the next few weeks. The basic version will cost a mere $25, and the $35 version adds more memory and an Ethernet port.
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Might have to get a couple of the $35 versions to play around with. Pretty interesting, overall.
What is the point of having a "killer GPU" if you aren't even running a widely used mobile OS? Are you going to load some Linux distro on there with Wine and run some real games? That will never happen. The GPU wont meant much with out some content.
Make it a Cortex-A9 dual core, run a real mobile OS, and I would considering buying them for my TV's. Other then that, this is just a toy for programmers to play with.
Should I be impressed? Why not compare it to a good smart phone?
$35 bucks? ? ? Is that for real? I'm going to buy two of them for my tv.
Should I be impressed? Why not compare it to a good smart phone?
It has one of the fastest mobile GPU's maybe?
Might have to get a couple of the $35 versions to play around with. Pretty interesting, overall.
I'm definitely buying a few of the $35 ones
Should I be impressed? Why not compare it to a good smart phone?
I hate Apple just as much as the next guy but jeez dude give the 4S some credit. It does still have the fastest GPU of any phone on the market
Actually, no, Samsung currently hold that title with their Mali-400 GPU.
Actually, no, Samsung currently hold that title with their Mali-400 GPU.
Actually, the SGX543 is still faster, unfortunately. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4971 [...] -verizon/6
Well, I phrased that wrong because the Mali-400 came out first
Actually, I was right the first time. The SGX543 is featured on the ipad 2 which came out before the Samsung Galaxy S II which was the first device with the Mali-400. Sorry for the extra posts which are mostly off-topic anyway
So, what can I do with one of these things?
This would make a great micro-console.
Already have a Google TV but i'm interested in getting one of these to try out Ubuntu TV which looks pretty slick and alot more responsive than the damn atom in the Google tv (almost positive it's intel's crappy igp making google tv so unresponsive right now...)
im pretty sure they will be sold out on the first day or two. If they offered preorders, they would be gone already.
Surely he must be referring strictly to GPU performance. You're not going to outperform a dual-core Cortex A9 with a 700 MHz Arm11. If the GPU really outperforms everything else on the market today, why pair it with such a dated processor?
So, what can I do with one of these things?
oh boy so many things come to my mind. this little thing can do almost everything except playing crysis
I'm planing to buy 6 of those. 1 is going to a small server another is going to my octocoper one for my wardriving rig too, I'll also use one for my ipcamera it will be cheaper and I get to choose the camera I want, one for my tv, one powered by solar panels for remote monitoring.
I just love this thing. now I just need to find some usb powered lcd and some more stuff *.*
I've been waiting for this for a long time.
"and the $35 version adds more memory and an Ethernet port." you forgot it also has 2 usb ports instead of 1.
What can one actually do with this though?
Here is one of the things I was thinking about when I originally started paying attention to the Raspberry Pi.
http://scottjarvis.com/page105.htm
with Apple, you're just basically paying for the name
Nice little thing but they really should go for the latest Cortex version as soon as possible.
I saw over at the daily circuit that they got XBox Media Center to work on it. Crazy!
Does anyone know what os these will be running?
Here is one of the things I was thinking about when I originally started paying attention to the Raspberry Pi.http://scottjarvis.com/page105.htm
Exactly, Puppy Arcade is the first thing that comes to mind every time I see an article about something like this.
All I need is the time, cause money ain't the issue @ $35
I hope THG will do a review of them once they become available.
Would be interesting to see what $25/35 can buy these days.
I mean a cheap dinner date costs more than that and we all know
that dates are not always worth the money :-)
And before the ladies crucify me; I did not say WHO the guilty party
in case of the date would be :-)
Since when is the latest minor iteration of one company's proprietary cell phone (with a substandard screen size) the standard for comparison in compute power? What's next? Telling us the size of a gaming console as 87 times at thick as an iPhone 3G?
Now I can have a HTPC running XBMC on every TV in the house
All I need is the time, cause money ain't the issue @ $35
How could having more time cause money not to be the issue? I think it would be the other way around: "All I need is the time, BEcause money ain't(sic) the issue, at $35"
i'll believe it when I see it...
How could having more time cause money not to be the issue? I think it would be the other way around: "All I need is the time, BEcause money ain't(sic) the issue, at $35"
Grammar Police! Pull over!
So will this be powerful enough to act as a media server (via NAS storage unit)? If so, I may have to hook one up to my TV. Could it be used as a torrent box? Also, what kind of local storage does it have? Or do you need to use a USB HD? Does it come with a case?
*EDIT*
Actually, I just went to their website and that has answered most of my questions. For those that want to know: Its powerful enough to play BluRay video. The local storage is via an SD slot. It doesn't come with a case (though apparently they are planning on making one). There is support for Debian, Fedora, ArchLinux and potentially Ubuntu (in the near future). They will sell SD cards preloaded with the OS of your choice. There is are HDMI (video/audio), RCA (video), 3.5mm (audio) ports. Its powered by Micro USB. To connect multiple USB devices you just use a splitter.
Ok, now I really want one. I wonder what kind of homemade case I can whip up.
So will this be powerful enough to act as a media server (via NAS storage unit)? If so, I may have to hook one up to my TV. Could it be used as a torrent box? Also, what kind of local storage does it have? Or do you need to use a USB HD? Does it come with a case?*EDIT*Actually, I just went to their website and that has answered most of my questions. For those that want to know: Its powerful enough to play BluRay video. The local storage is via an SD slot. It doesn't come with a case (though apparently they are planning on making one). There is support for Debian, Fedora, ArchLinux and potentially Ubuntu (in the near future). They will sell SD cards preloaded with the OS of your choice. There is are HDMI (video/audio), RCA (video), 3.5mm (audio) ports. Its powered by Micro USB. To connect multiple USB devices you just use a splitter.Ok, now I really want one. I wonder what kind of homemade case I can whip up.
Have all your storage on NAS drives, tucked away on a phat switch in the attic.