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AMD Roadmap Updates, Cont.

AMD Fusion: Brazos Gets Previewed: Part 2, Performance
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AMD Roadup Updates Cont.

Discrete and Integrated Graphics Market

AMD claims that its APU market is bigger than Intel's EPG market. Both the EPG and the APU will likely stem the growth of the discrete graphics cards somewhat as mainstream consumers become sated with a single-chip solution. 

Platforms

It is as we reported on the 9th: there will be dual-, triple-, and quad-core Llano APUs out in 2011. Unfortunately, from what we understand, there is a delay in the fab process, which may push the time line back into 2H 2011. At first, AMD was optimistically calling out 1H for some Llano parts, and that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. While we have only looked at the SB750 (Hudson-M1) southbridge, the existence of M2 and M3 parts suggests that native USB 3.0 support isn't out of the question for mainstream platforms.

We now have another round of code names to cope with as we start looking past 2011 and into the APUs expected in 2012.

On the desktop and mobile side...

Komodo is the code name for the CPU design that replaces Zambezi in the performance desktop space. Given what we know about how AMD is planing to roll out CPUs in its cadence philosophy, Komodo is to be the "enhanced" version of Bulldozer with DirectX 11-class graphics (remember, Zambezi won't include graphics).

Trinity is the next evolution of the mainstream APU, displacing Llano in 2012. The most significant change will be a shift from the Stars processing cores used today to a Bulldozer-based CPU architecture. Trinity will continue shipping in dual-, triple-, and quad-core variants, though.

Krishna is will take over for Zacate, while Wichita will effectively replace Ontario. These two parts are interesting as well, since AMD plans to double max core count, while maintaining the same power specs from the previous Zacate and Ontario generation of Bobcat powered APUs.

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    tsnorquist , November 16, 2010 12:00 PM
    killerclickWho the hell plays games on a netbook? Another spectacular fail for AMD.


    Probably not a lot of people, but when netbooks have the capability to play at acceptable levels for the masses, they will be great.
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    frederico , November 16, 2010 10:06 AM

    If an Intel processor and an AMD processor were exactly the same - 9 out of 10 'normal' people would choose the Intel

    The only people "in the know" are in the enthusiast segment of the market, which is a very small slice really.

    Its a constant uphill battle for AMD, but then again, if they didn't exist, we'd all be paying through the nose for slower processors
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    K2N hater , November 16, 2010 12:22 PM
    fredericoIf an Intel processor and an AMD processor were exactly the same - 9 out of 10 'normal' people would choose the IntelThe only people "in the know" are in the enthusiast segment of the market, which is a very small slice really.Its a constant uphill battle for AMD, but then again, if they didn't exist, we'd all be paying through the nose for slower processors

    The average user either picks Intel or Apple. And when the user picks Apple the CPU manufacturer is absolutely out of question.
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    ares1214 , November 16, 2010 9:51 AM
    Looking extremely impressive AMD, where as before you were a full gen behind, now id just say half gen. Make BD a big success, and you will most definitely get back in the game, however i doubt it would be enough to take the lead.
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    Anonymous , November 16, 2010 10:06 AM
    did you realize that sometime it's as fast as the i3 with 2,2ghz?
  • 18 Hide
    frederico , November 16, 2010 10:06 AM

    If an Intel processor and an AMD processor were exactly the same - 9 out of 10 'normal' people would choose the Intel

    The only people "in the know" are in the enthusiast segment of the market, which is a very small slice really.

    Its a constant uphill battle for AMD, but then again, if they didn't exist, we'd all be paying through the nose for slower processors
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    vaughn2k , November 16, 2010 10:36 AM
    Hope it will come sooner than later...
  • 22 Hide
    tsnorquist , November 16, 2010 12:00 PM
    killerclickWho the hell plays games on a netbook? Another spectacular fail for AMD.


    Probably not a lot of people, but when netbooks have the capability to play at acceptable levels for the masses, they will be great.
  • 1 Hide
    gxpbecker , November 16, 2010 12:21 PM
    Nifty, an the best thing about AMD making high end competition for intel is price drops lol, if AMD can pull it off.
  • 5 Hide
    hannibal , November 16, 2010 12:22 PM
    Even more interesting would be a tablet that can be used to play games!
    So it could mean that we can read e-mail, read e-books watch movies and internet pages and even play with tablet-PC. Netbook is just one step ahead... Yep it is not the same as Nvidia 460, even 350 or amd 5650 from the low end (gaming), but the resolution would be smaller, so it would be possible.

    Let see what we get when this is really out.
    All in all it gives people a choice. Need more CPU and very rarely GPU power... take intel... If you don't need so much CPU power, but need GPU power chose AMD. It's good to have altenatives!
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    K2N hater , November 16, 2010 12:22 PM
    fredericoIf an Intel processor and an AMD processor were exactly the same - 9 out of 10 'normal' people would choose the IntelThe only people "in the know" are in the enthusiast segment of the market, which is a very small slice really.Its a constant uphill battle for AMD, but then again, if they didn't exist, we'd all be paying through the nose for slower processors

    The average user either picks Intel or Apple. And when the user picks Apple the CPU manufacturer is absolutely out of question.
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    theholylancer , November 16, 2010 12:24 PM
    Umm people whom play wow needs a quick fix in between other things?


    Those kind of people would indeed like a extremely portable gaming device, hell if they have a deal with some sort of internet on the go then maybe I will take the bus + subway and not drive to work.


    On other news you guys used 3.4.0 wow?! Patch 4.0.1 dropped in 12 of OCT and you can't get on the official servers w/o updating, are you guys using a private server?! Or even better a blizzard sanctioned low lat testing server?!!!!
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    burnley14 , November 16, 2010 12:49 PM
    sireangelusdid you realize that sometime it's as fast as the i3 with 2,2ghz?


    But against what is soon to become Intel's "old line." With the release of Sandy Bridge and a whole new architecture, AMD is going to need to have solid performance, at least enough to match Intel's previous offerings.
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    eyefinity , November 16, 2010 1:02 PM
    ares1214Looking extremely impressive AMD, where as before you were a full gen behind, now id just say half gen. Make BD a big success, and you will most definitely get back in the game, however i doubt it would be enough to take the lead.


    You mean a half gen ahead? Cuz this stomps atom into dust and intel has nothing close.
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    eyefinity , November 16, 2010 1:04 PM
    burnley14But against what is soon to become Intel's "old line." With the release of Sandy Bridge and a whole new architecture, AMD is going to need to have solid performance, at least enough to match Intel's previous offerings.


    Intel's "old line" is mostly on the same 32nm process of Sandy Bridge so it's not like intel has some huge miracle coming up, just a few percent more. They still have nothing close to this performance per die size and watt.
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    ScrewySqrl , November 16, 2010 1:08 PM
    theholylancer On other news you guys used 3.4.0 wow?! Patch 4.0.1 dropped in 12 of OCT and you can't get on the official servers w/o updating, are you guys using a private server?! Or even better a blizzard sanctioned low lat testing server?!!!!


    It waw probably run when 3.4.0 was the latest version, over a month ago.
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    Darkerson , November 16, 2010 1:59 PM
    Ive been a big fan of AMD and Im really rooting for them. Besides loving the great price/performance ratio they offer, I have high hopes for them and really hope BD and their other offerings are well embraced. We all know what will happen if AMD were to somehow stumble and fail. You think Intel's prices are expensive now...
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    digiex , November 16, 2010 2:08 PM
    As long as it will trash atom... It will!
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    thejerk , November 16, 2010 2:11 PM
    Highlighting the name of the item being reviewed in the graphs would be a good thing. Or, place them in the same order for comparison's sake.
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    falchard , November 16, 2010 2:23 PM
    AMD has a better graphics chip then Intel, its a total shock.
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    kelemvor4 , November 16, 2010 3:21 PM
    Wow, what a disappointment.
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