The Problem With Overclocking On Non-Z170 Chipsets

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Michael Justin Allen Sexton is a Contributing Writer for Tom's Hardware US. He covers hardware component news, specializing in CPUs and motherboards.
  • Gam3r01
    Unless these specially designed motherboards are still at or close to the same price as their normal counterparts you might as well go with Z170. Not just for the OCing, but for all the extra features.
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  • Darkbreeze
    That's wrong. It's all wrong. You got it all wrong. That's not how it works at all.

    Just kidding. I figured I'd say it before one of the article terrorists comes along and does. Preemptive contrarianism. Now they have no reason to do so. Seriously, good to know. Thanks for the info.
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  • Gam3r01
    My main question is why did it take this long for the disable of hyperthreading to surface when doing this? Surely someone noticed it earlier on.
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  • Darkbreeze
    Because there weren't any boards specifically designed for this purpose yet, on chipsets other than Z170. Normal H170, B150 and other chipset boards can't overclock the locked chips like the ones specifically designed for it. Really, it's kind of ridiculous to have to "design" an overclocking board for a locked chip. If you can "do" it, on non-Z hardware without having to invest significant resources into developing a new product that will require it to be more expensive than it's incapable siblings, then great. Otherwise, you might just as well get an low end Z board.
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  • IInuyasha74
    17291865 said:
    My main question is why did it take this long for the disable of hyperthreading to surface when doing this? Surely someone noticed it earlier on.

    This is a good question, and I have an answer for you. As of right now, there are only five non-Z170 LGA1151 motherboards that have been announced and are capable of overclocking. Four of the motherboards are from ASRock, and aren't available for purchase yet.

    Then there is the one motherboard from Super Micro that has been out on the market, but Super Micro did not reveal that the motherboard was capable of overclocking CPUs until earlier this week at CES. There were rumors that it was able to be overclock CPUs, because Super Micro sent the motherboard to an overclocker who competes in overclocking competitions and has set world overclocking records before to have him test out the motherboard and reported that it was capable of overclocking, but we weren't able to confirm his story until now. Others using the motherboard likely didn't expect to be able to overclock and thus didn't try to even if they noticed the base clock option available. Even if they did, because the Super Micro board doesn't disable Hyper-Threading, just C-states, anyone owning the motherboard could have easily overlooked that the board wasn't using C-state modes. I witnessed this first-hand at CES a few days ago, and confirmed this info with several companies over the week, which is the only reason we are aware of it now. That is why you are reading about it on Tom's Hardware first, hard work and journalism, getting you this out before anyone really has a chance to learn it the hard way. :)
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  • IInuyasha74
    17291828 said:
    That's wrong. It's all wrong. You got it all wrong. That's not how it works at all.

    Just kidding. I figured I'd say it before one of the article terrorists comes along and does. Preemptive contrarianism. Now they have no reason to do so. Seriously, good to know. Thanks for the info.

    Haha well glad you enjoyed the post. Lot of work went into this one, so feel free to spread this around to anyone asking about it :)
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  • Gam3r01
    Ah, thanks for clearing that up. Makes a lot more sense since nobody was thinking to look for it.
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  • TJ Hooker
    Most of these drawbacks also exist when over clocking non-k cpus on Z170 boards, i.e. loss of c-states and avx instructions (what I'm guessing Asus is referring to when they mention losing "some" instructions sets). Loss of HT is new though, and probably the most troubling.
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  • killerchickens
    Nice article, I hope you keep it up to date.:)
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  • IInuyasha74
    17291962 said:
    Most of these drawbacks also exist when over clocking non-k cpus on Z170 boards, i.e. loss of c-states and avx instructions (what I'm guessing Asus is referring to when they mention losing "some" instructions sets). Loss of HT is new though, and probably the most troubling.

    You don't lose AVX instruction support or the ability to use c-states when overclocking on a Z170 motherboard.
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