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Samsung: A 2GHz Smartphone by 2012

by - source: Mashable (Yahoo! News)

That's quite a punch your phone is packing...

Sometimes it’s hard to believe that the smartphone industry has come far enough that 1GHz CPUs are the status quo. There’s even a few dual-core options out there, and with rumors that the new iPhone will pack Apple’s own dual-core A5 chip, dual-core cell phones are likely to become more popular. Yes, smartphones are becoming ridiculously powerful.

Still, Samsung, which will soon release a 1.2GHz dual-core version of its Galaxy S smartphone, is not resting on its laurels. The company this week promised we’d see a 2GHz Samsung smartphone by next year. Mashable cites a “high ranking Samsung official” who confirmed plans for a 2GHz mobile phone CPU during a conversation with the Maeli Business Newspaper.


"We are planning to release a 2GHz dual core CPU-equipped smartphone by next year. This product will have the data processing capacities of a regular PC," the official said.

However, those panicking that they’ll have to go Samsung if they want the fasted phone out there need not worry. Samsung is said to be considering selling the chips separately to third party manufacturers. 

Samsung's 1.2GHz Galaxy S2 is set for a May launch in the United Kingdom. It will use Samsung's own dual-core Exynos CPU. The North American release for this device has yet to be announced.

(via Engadget)

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agnickolov 04/20/2011 10:28 AM
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At this pace, some day in the not too distant future we may start purchasing smartphone coolers as well not just notebook coolers...

Parsian 04/20/2011 10:38 AM
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it is interesting how the exponential growth of handset/mobile devices processors are greater than their desktop counterpart.

ionut19 04/20/2011 10:43 AM
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agnickolov wrote :

At this pace, some day in the not too distant future we may start purchasing smartphone coolers as well not just notebook coolers...




Not true, the heat will be dissipated by the case. And don't you worry, there won't be much heat. My 1Ghz CPU barely heats up the back of the case in 1 spot when i use the internet with 3g on, in games and when it plays movies it is cooler.

Also do you see the current desktop 2Ghz CPU's heat up at all? Same thing will happen with the mobile CPU's, faster and better architectures with less heat.

Also a 1Ghz dual core CPU uses less battery than a single core CPU at the same speed meaning less heat and more efficiency. You don't really think that the new SGS II with it's dual core 1.2Ghz cpu will last 3 ores powered, no?

joytech22 04/20/2011 11:01 AM
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Still angry at Samsung about their original Galaxy S i9000 (RAM issue)

Nuff said.

ionut19 04/20/2011 11:25 AM
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I never ran out of RAM(android 2.1). That problem was on HTC. If you had problems with RAM use android 2.2 because it is said that the issue is fixed. :)

cdamccann 04/20/2011 12:12 PM
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ionut19 :
I never ran out of RAM(android 2.1). That problem was on HTC. If you had problems with RAM use android 2.2 because it is said that the issue is fixed.



Also GPS issues. I've gone through four Captivates to finally find one that gets descent satellite reception.

feeddagoat 04/20/2011 12:58 PM
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2GHz dual core would be epic, especially if they gave you the option of down-clocking to 1GHz unless your playing something that requires that speed. For example browsing the web or watching a you tub vid doesn't need it tho fire up a game or a 1080p vid might. Think of the battery savings even some older phones used downclocked versions.

joytech22 04/20/2011 1:11 PM
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Seriously Windows XP is more friendly with it's ram than Android 2.2 on the SGS..

And Windows XP is a fully blown OS..

rantoc 04/20/2011 3:10 PM
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feeddagoat :
2GHz dual core would be epic, especially if they gave you the option of down-clocking to 1GHz unless your playing something that requires that speed. For example browsing the web or watching a you tub vid doesn't need it tho fire up a game or a 1080p vid might. Think of the battery savings even some older phones used downclocked versions.



Most "smart" smartphones under clock/volt in light loads already to save power and step up when needed

plznote 04/20/2011 3:12 PM
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Battery Life.
Nuff' said.

shompa 04/20/2011 3:47 PM
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joytech22 :
Seriously Windows XP is more friendly with it's ram than Android 2.2 on the SGS..And Windows XP is a fully blown OS..



You do know that Linux is a fully blown OS? Android is Linux based with a "window" layer. Linux as an OS is far more capable then XP. I don't know if the Android Window system is superior to XP since I don't use Android.

shompa 04/20/2011 3:57 PM
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plznote :
Battery Life.Nuff' said.



Amen!
The problem is that tech nerds love megapixels, mhz, bluetooth 3.0, WifiSuperDuper and other buzzwords. They think that you are more intelligent for buying a 1.2ghz Samsung instead of an 1ghz Iphone. They belive that people are stupid because they don't love the 200 extra mhz.

Most techies does not understand that the hardware is irrelevant, it is the software that is important. Elegant software solutions like Ios multitasking. It is not fun to have a new Andoid phone with widgets and other stuff that 3 hours batterie time. Have to buy battery saving apps to get the battery time up to 12 hours. Turn of the stupid widgets that brightens the home screen 24/7.

This is the reason why I love my original Ipad. 11 hours of battery if I use it all the time. Over 5 days if I listen to ACC/MP3. 30 days standby. I want my phone to have the same capabilities.

shompa 04/20/2011 3:59 PM
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BTW. There will be quad core mobile phones next year. Todays ARMs are manufactured 40-45nm. 2012 we will se 28-32nm quad core ARMs that uses the same energy as todays dual core ARMs.

xbeater 04/20/2011 4:33 PM
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joytech22 :
Still angry at Samsung about their original Galaxy S i9000 (RAM issue)Nuff said.


Seriously screw you with your ram complaints on every article about the SGS. If you looked around a bit you can see that the ram that is not visible is allocated to the kernel and drivers (or something like that). The ram you see is less than 512 because of that. The ram that you see is allocated to the apps and android system. If you look you'll find that other android phones might show more ram, but then also appear as if they are using more. You'll also find that people that make the kernels (3rd party) can squeeze more out of the ram, but at costs.

So stop your complaining before I slap you. I sware everytime I see your comment about the SGS's ram issues I want to slap you. WHY are you one of the few people on the net that actually complains about this?!

Anyways on topic, looks like I might actually skip the SGSII and go for whatever samsung can get with that 2Ghz CPU :D

happyballz 04/20/2011 4:43 PM
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Article should say Galaxy S II as it is a totally new phone and not simply a refresh model.
They do have a Galaxy S 1.5 GHz refresh coming out however.
And SII will also use Tegra 2 as well.

cdamccann :
Also GPS issues. I've gone through four Captivates to finally find one that gets descent satellite reception.


Pick from any of the 15+ roms available on XDA; not a problem with my GPS anymore, locks with 8-10 sats in 5-10 seconds and very good tracking.
Your phone is bootlaoder-unlocked, might as well use the feature.
joytech22 :
Still angry at Samsung about their original Galaxy S i9000 (RAM issue)Nuff said.



Explain this "RAM issue" if you can... I have never heard of anything to this extent. I do not see it use ram any different than my nexus or my other couple of HTC phones. :sarcastic:

Anonymous 04/20/2011 4:53 PM
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@shompa

the iPad was 85% battery...... it uses almost identical hardware as an iPhone but in a much larger package, the majority of which was dedicated to batteries

saying that im all for long battery life

liveonc 04/20/2011 5:48 PM
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I'm already miffed with my 1Ghz single core playing Angry Birds for half an hour. Are they gonna bundle it with an Energizer Etg Xp18000 charger?

STravis 04/20/2011 5:55 PM
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So does that mean that now you'll be able to answer/make calls? I know that with the current 1GHz generation (such as the EVO) sometimes the phone is busy doing something else to worry about the user trying to answer/make a call...maybe at 2GHz it will actually have enough HP to service user requests.

slabbo 04/20/2011 6:12 PM
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they really need to concentrate on battery life before they start focusing on 2ghz speeds, which will probably drain the battery even faster. As it is now, my Android phone needs to be charged every single day, and I'm a very light user.

JerseyFirefighter 04/20/2011 10:54 PM
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Melts in your pocket, not in your hand.

zulutech 04/21/2011 1:52 AM
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For all's information, to get an effective 2GHZ processor in a phone, you will in an internal heat distribution unit (probably in the form of a graphite layer, or a graphite processor itself instead of silicon) This could be a reality in the near future.

However, you'll need a pretty big battery.

Fokissed 04/21/2011 1:53 AM
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shompa :
Elegant software solutions like Ios multitasking.


Multitasking? More like fast app-switching. Apps in the background are paused, its not true multitasking.

eddieroolz 04/21/2011 4:48 AM
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It sure gets more powerful than ever, but still restricted in so many ways.

sudeshc 04/21/2011 6:41 AM
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i said it earlier too that we one day wont even look at desktops or laptops netbooks etc everything will be packed inside the our beloved mobile.

danwat1234 04/21/2011 6:43 AM
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feeddagoat :
2GHz dual core would be epic, especially if they gave you the option of down-clocking to 1GHz unless your playing something that requires that speed. For example browsing the web or watching a you tub vid doesn't need it tho fire up a game or a 1080p vid might. Think of the battery savings even some older phones used downclocked versions.



The CPU will have it's clockspeed dynamically altered depending on load. At least, I would assume.

Now, as for the articles saying this "This product will have the data processing capacities of a regular PC", this is a straight lie.

Maybe equivalent to a 2GHZ pentium 2 (Yes, I said Pentium 2, the one after the Pentium Pro), but not a modern x86 2GHZ processor. Well maybe close to the atom ;) but still a bit less I would think than the atom clock for clock.

It simply wouldn't be possible without a major jump in power usage / transistor count

WyomingKnott 04/21/2011 3:10 PM
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Is there anything useful that can be done with that much processing power in a phone?

andy5174 04/22/2011 8:49 AM
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Never get Samsung smartphone! Samsung really sucks by making a 1GHz/512MB Galaxy lag like hell which is an issue there for a year already.

ionut19 04/22/2011 10:19 PM
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shompa wrote :

Amen!
The problem is that tech nerds love megapixels, mhz, bluetooth 3.0, WifiSuperDuper and other buzzwords. They think that you are more intelligent for buying a 1.2ghz Samsung instead of an 1ghz Iphone. They belive that people are stupid because they don't love the 200 extra mhz.

Most techies does not understand that the hardware is irrelevant, it is the software that is important. Elegant software solutions like Ios multitasking. It is not fun to have a new Andoid phone with widgets and other stuff that 3 hours batterie time. Have to buy battery saving apps to get the battery time up to 12 hours. Turn of the stupid widgets that brightens the home screen 24/7.

This is the reason why I love my original Ipad. 11 hours of battery if I use it all the time. Over 5 days if I listen to ACC/MP3. 30 days standby. I want my phone to have the same capabilities.




Here is your answer(click spoiler):
Spoiler :
You are wrong.. software is made for hardware and hardware is made for software, you do not understand the concept of evolution. They don't think they are smarter because they bought a faster phone, they think it is better and cooler.

I could also say the same thing about your post above :) .


You have no idea what you are talking about. A reason more why I stuff especially desktops, do not have powerful components inside. Thrust me that someone that knows what he wants and he has the money, he will get the thing that suits him best at what he needs it, better software or superior performance or all of them.

Also the fact that you are comparing an i-pad to a phone makes me proud to have a phone :lol: .


happyballz wrote :

Article should say Galaxy S II as it is a totally new phone and not simply a refresh model.
They do have a Galaxy S 1.5 GHz refresh coming out however.
And SII will also use Tegra 2 as well.




I thought it was 1.4Ghz.
Also reading the review on gsmarena.com when they compared SGS II with an LG model with tegra 2, the later one's platform should be superior. I hope that the prices will be the same. I will skip this generation anyway, going for the other one or the one after that, depending on how much my phone survives the daily abuse, i use it as a normal phone, drop it all day, throwing it with out any care and it still survives with flying colors, no problems at all and i even had a big crash with my bicycle and the handlebar hit the phone so hard that it made a deap-ish scratch on the back of the case near the jack input. Cases are cheap anyway :).

Ou, forgot to say to the first quote, there are also extended batteries for these phones so you can listen to music for 4-5 days also. :)

andy5174 wrote :

Never get Samsung smartphone! Samsung really sucks by making a 1GHz/512MB Galaxy lag like hell which is an issue there for a year already.



Lag in what circumstances? Or what are you doing when it lags?

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