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MSI Shows External Graphics Card w/ATI

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Here's a good way to beef up your laptop's graphics.

MSI plans to showcase its upcoming Graphics Upgrade Solution (GUS) at Computex next week, an externally-housed ATI Radeon HD 5670 1 GB card that connects to a notebook's ExpressCard slot. MSI's solution is one of many external options in the works--both Gigabyte and Shuttle recently displayed their offerings at CeBit back in March. As seen at the show, Gigabyte has chosen the docking station approach whereas Shuttle's I-Power GTX mini will use a special GTX connector.

As for MSI's solution, the company has tweaked the limitations of the ExpressCard connection by using a thicker, shielded copper cable and "improved" associated electronics. This supposedly allows for "over 70-percent" of the theoretical bandwidth as opposed to the 50-percent or less seen with other external solutions. MSI said that the next generation of GUS devices will take the simpler route by using USB 3.0, however the current model will still provide a nice performance boost over integrated graphics.

While this option may sound encouraging for gamers, there are a few positives and negatives associated with the technology. The external device will need a separate power source, and could prove cumbersome when traveling. However that's only a minor setback given that it can provide up to three additional video outputs. This means that consumers can set up a 4-display array using the output from the laptop (or use the laptop's LCD) and the three ports provided on ATI's card.

MSI said that the upcoming GUS will be offered in two forms: without the ATI card for just $99 to $109, or with the Radeon HD 5670 card for $169 to $229. As it stands, the device can't support cards more advanced than the Radeon HD 5670, as the GUS has a maximum power draw of 84 watts and does not have a 6-pin power adapter.

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IFLATLINEI 05/28/2010 12:13 PM
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AWESOME!!!! What took so long???

adamspc 05/28/2010 12:24 PM
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Quote :As it stands, the device can't support cards more advanced than the Radeon HD 5670, as the GUS has a maximum power draw of 84 watts and does not have a 6-pin power adapter.

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Can't they just use a beefier power supply for a faster card, or is there maybe a bandwidth issue as well? I assume bandwidth would be the real issue considering they make a point about the extra shielding.

jryan388 05/28/2010 12:32 PM
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Probably have 5670 performance at 5850 price.

builderbobftw 05/28/2010 12:50 PM
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Be cool if there was a 5970/5870/5850 version for those of us with 19x12 laptops :/

joytech22 05/28/2010 12:58 PM
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Awesome! Too bad my Laptop doesn't have a ExpressCard slot..
Hp Pavilion dv6-1323tx... Only came out last year :o

My older Acer has a ExpressCard slot but it's CPU will still bottleneck it.

steiner666 05/28/2010 1:00 AM
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I've only been saying that they need to make external desktop-GPU housings for laptops for over a decade now! So many laptops get outdated because the built in graphics chipsets cant keep up with the games, CPUs dont get outdated nearly as quick. This will add YEARS of usability to laptops that would otherwise be replaced.

schmich 05/28/2010 1:05 AM
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There should be a generic case where you can just put in any graphics card! Like that you can just take the one in your PC when you go away.

Zoonie 05/28/2010 1:07 AM
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Quote :As it stands, the device can't support cards more advanced than the Radeon HD 5670, as the GUS has a maximum power draw of 84 watts and does not have a 6-pin power adapter.


It's probably an easy mod to add the missing power. However, the question is, can you feed anything more powerful through that ExpressCard slot?

And then ofc.. Can it outpace something like a mobile 8/9-series GS/GT? I'm really hoping you will benchmark this thing. As is and modded to run some more powerful card!

Lamiel 05/28/2010 1:15 AM
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jryan388 :
Probably have 5670 performance at 5850 price.


The cheapest 5850 on Newegg right now is going for 289.99. This article says "or with the Radeon HD 5670 card for $169 to $229". Considering you're getting both the adapter and the GPU for that price, I'd say your comment makes no sense.

RADIO_ACTIVE 05/28/2010 1:44 AM
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just another thing to drag around lolz along with a laptop cooler, mouse, power brick...

portable PC gaming is not that portable :)

Yuka 05/28/2010 2:46 AM
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Why not make an PCIe external adapter of some sort for notebooks? Come on Intel, Ati, nVidia! Stop being slackers, this is a really profitable idea!

And while we're still at it, no... This thing has no "portability" utility to it. Just get from work/school after PRODUCING on your laptop, plug the V. Card and have some fun without having to get a full blown PC. And even if you want to carry it around, it's not that much hassle compared to carring around a full PC with you :P

Cheers!

redgarl 05/28/2010 4:00 AM
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That's a good idea. But for laptop, maybe cloud computing is a better option... if you got great internet access.

Still, my G73jh-A1 is awesome. If you compare to the 1000$ piece of garbage sold at Stamples to my parents who wanted to make me a surprise, it's a real steal for 700$ more. They actually charged 500$ for different services and... crap sold... a 4GB USB stick for 40$... arhmmm... RIPOFF!

alextheblue 05/28/2010 4:13 AM
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steiner666 :
I've only been saying that they need to make external desktop-GPU housings for laptops for over a decade now! So many laptops get outdated because the built in graphics chipsets cant keep up with the games, CPUs dont get outdated nearly as quick. This will add YEARS of usability to laptops that would otherwise be replaced.

They already had them, but previous models sucked bad. This one doesn't look too terrible. Future models using USB 3.0 and other advanced connections might be even better.

enewmen 05/28/2010 5:26 AM
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IFLATLINEI :
AWESOME!!!! What took so long???



Agree, but if it's external with it's own power source, why limit it to a 5670? Why not a 5700 or 5800 series ?

rooseveltdon 05/28/2010 8:06 AM
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enewmen :
Agree, but if it's external with it's own power source, why limit it to a 5670? Why not a 5700 or 5800 series ?



As it stands, the device can't support cards more advanced than the Radeon HD 5670, as the GUS has a maximum power draw of 84 watts and does not have a 6-pin power adapter.

did you read the article?

tacoslave 05/28/2010 8:14 AM
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enewmen :
Agree, but if it's external with it's own power source, why limit it to a 5670? Why not a 5700 or 5800 series ?


bandwith

pirateboy 05/28/2010 10:47 AM
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if it's not an x16 slot: FAIL
5670: FAIL

Acer already FAILED with this. MSI is the next captain failboat?

enewmen 05/28/2010 12:34 PM
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rooseveltdon :
As it stands, the device can't support cards more advanced than the Radeon HD 5670, as the GUS has a maximum power draw of 84 watts and does not have a 6-pin power adapter.did you read the article?



I still don't know why the GUS was designed to have a maximum power draw of 84 watts and does not have a 6-pin power adapter.
I'll need to check more on the bandwidth limiitations...

Hiniberus 05/28/2010 12:42 PM
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pirateboy :
if it's not an x16 slot: FAIL5670: FAILAcer already FAILED with this. MSI is the next captain failboat?



stfu dude, at least they're trying where other's fail and may possibly manage. Also the 5670 isn't all that bad either. The only problem would be the express card bandwith cap, though I have to say I can't wait to see the reviews for it

bildo123 05/28/2010 2:43 PM
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Or, create a standard video connector, like USB, built right into the laptop so all you have to do is slap in a video card and go to town.

ninelivesproductions 05/30/2010 7:58 PM
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Actually looks like a good product... Id buy it if i had a laptop. I wouldn't really buy it though because I would never waste money on a laptop...

drowned 05/31/2010 3:12 AM
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I'll believe it when I actually see it on Newegg ready to ship. Asus had an external gfx card showcased at CES 2 years ago and it never came out.

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