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Apple Uses Intel's Nehalem Die Shot in A5 CPU Slide

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Intel influenced Apple on the A5... sorta.

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At the Apple event with the big iPhone 4S reveal, the company took the time to highlight again its A5 processor – the same processor that's been running in the iPad 2 since earlier this year. The leap from the Apple A4 in the iPhone 4 to the A5 is fairly significant, as it moves up an ARM generation as well as adds a second core.

Graphically, the A5 is exceptionally strong compared to the previous Apple generation, and is besting today's strongest competition. Apple has a lot to be proud of for its package-on-package system-on-chip design choices.

At the mention of the A5's dual-core capability the official promo video (above), Apple used a fairly attractive-looking die shot. Our friend Anand of AnandTech also noticed the die shot and tweeted about the striking similarities between Apple's image of its A5 and Intel's 45nm Nehalem CPU.

Apple's image of its A5

Intel's 45nm Nehalem

We're sure that Apple wasn't trying to mislead anyone into thinking that its A5 chip is an equivalent to Intel's Nehalem design. They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and liberally borrowing from Intel's excellent die shots is nothing but a compliment… and likely the product of some uninspired Photoshopping.

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billybobser 10/06/2011 1:11 PM
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I think you'll find Apple designed Nehalem, and are currently pursuing intel in the courts for copyright infringement on the 'look and feel' of their chip.

shades_aus 10/06/2011 1:15 PM
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Apple said about copying Intel - "They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"

So answer me this then. Why are they suing Samsung and trying to prevent them from launching products that resemble their own??

cookoy 10/06/2011 1:28 PM
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For Apple the sincerest form of flattery comes with $$$ attached. Lots of them.

DSpider 10/06/2011 2:35 PM
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Wow... That was a blatant copy-paste. Look closely:



Sorry if I got the perspective wrong, I'm not very good with Gimp.

Mess with the hue a little, reduce saturation, etc., and I'm pretty sure it's the same thing. And yeah, poor, "poor" Samsung...

greghome 10/06/2011 3:08 PM
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spiketheaardvark 10/06/2011 3:15 PM
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Anand of AnandTech gets some serious nerd cred for recognizing a die shot.

Next in news. Apple, after patenting the "look and feel" of a computer chip, sues everybody.

mdsiu 10/06/2011 3:18 PM
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Well...someone at Apple is fired

ap3x 10/06/2011 3:18 PM
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ap3x 10/06/2011 3:19 PM
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spiketheaardvark :
Anand of AnandTech gets some serious nerd cred for recognizing a die shot.Next in news. Apple, after patenting the "look and feel" of a computer chip, sues everybody.



Yea Anand has some serious nerd cred. The guy is nothing short of amazing with the information his site provides.

mavroxur 10/06/2011 3:29 PM
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Wow, how sad, Apple. Just as sad as suing Samsung for "copying" the iPad.... after much Photoshop work, it sure does look similar... >_>

SneakySnake 10/06/2011 3:50 PM
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halcyon 10/06/2011 3:56 PM
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Retrophe 10/06/2011 4:14 PM
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SneakySnake :
Samsung releases multiple products with a UI that's clearly copying the iOS look and feel...Apple uses a dieshot of a nehalem CPU to makes an illustration about a CPU in one slide of a presentation...Clearly those are very different things, grow up people, get off the hate train, and get on the common sense trainhere come my down votes




Yeah and Apple Photoshopping pics of Samsung products to resemble Apple products for court was an "accident" too . . .

Your train just derailed fool.

eklipz330 10/06/2011 4:19 PM
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halcyon :
Why is this news?


why're you here?

DSpider 10/06/2011 4:22 PM
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jaksikaks 10/06/2011 4:47 PM
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billybobser :
I think you'll find Apple designed Nehalem, and are currently pursuing intel in the courts for copyright infringement on the 'look and feel' of their chip.



Nice :-D I had a good laugh.

Cazalan 10/06/2011 5:15 PM
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Apple is known for copying/stealing designs. Steve Jobs even said in 1996 "Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal".

The iPad was a merge of technology from "1968 Stanley Kubrick film 2001: A Space Odyssey", "Knight-Ridder" tablet newspaper from 1994, concept/prototypes from Star Trek, Microsoft tablet PC. It was hardly original.

The hardware just finally caught up to make it an affordable reality. LCD replacing CRT made a huge impact on the price of screens. India has a ~$49 tablet.

SneakySnake 10/06/2011 5:32 PM
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halcyon 10/06/2011 5:35 PM
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bustapr 10/06/2011 5:37 PM
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SneakySnake :
Samsung releases multiple products with a UI that's clearly copying the iOS look and feel...Apple uses a dieshot of a nehalem CPU to makes an illustration about a CPU in one slide of a presentation...Clearly those are very different things, grow up people, get off the hate train, and get on the common sense trainhere come my down votes


1. the samsung photos were photoshopped

2. the presentation was about the design of the A5. The die shot was of an A5, which is clearly the same as the nehalem die. this wasnt an example of a cpu, it was the actual cpu, and is one of the reasons most of us here hate apple. They sue everyone for "stealing ideas", and then they do this and claim its apple designed.

halcyon 10/06/2011 6:10 PM
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bustapr 10/06/2011 6:16 PM
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halcyon :
I thought all of these companies stole from each other. We know Apple and Samsung do it. For this example, though, did Apple say the Intel die shot was their own? They apparently wanted a photo of a CPU die, and may have even asked Intel's permission to use it (doubtful, but who knows?).Yes, it would have been better for them to get a photo of the A5 dieshot. They didn't, it got noticed, and now they've stolen something else...a photo of an Intel CPU. Tsk tsk, but kind of trivial. We know Apple's lawyers would be at the ready if someone else did this to them. Who knows if they'd actually be unleashed.Once again, Apple seems to have done something to earn further hatred from those that really need no reason to hate them. Apple is indeed sue-happy and that's annoying, but it seems to be the new industry fad. It'd be funny if Intel tried to sue them for using their photo during an A5 slideshow. ...but I suspect Intel doesn't have time to be bothered with such. Bravo for Intel.


because apple claims the A5 is their design, and the video was a clear presentation of the A5 die. Why would they ask intel for a die that doesnt resemble the cpu they are showing off. That was the a5.

Anonymous 10/06/2011 6:22 PM
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Yep, as I was watching, I was like wait..... thats my 1st Gen i7 they are showing a picture of... wait what? Apple, reuse of stock photos is not cool!

jcaulley_74 10/06/2011 6:58 PM
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bustapr :
because apple claims the A5 is their design, and the video was a clear presentation of the A5 die. Why would they ask intel for a die that doesnt resemble the cpu they are showing off. That was the a5.



You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. The die pictured is the intel die. Here is a link to the actual die picture of an A5 http://www.chipworks.com/en/techni [...] omparison/ They have no similarities other than the fact they were made on silicon. Hurry along now, the short bus back to Apple headquarters is waiting for you.

warezme 10/06/2011 7:06 PM
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Apple photoshop something to mislead its sheep???? Nooo!!!!

rohitbaran 10/06/2011 7:20 PM
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This is why I never like Apple. Hypocritical and arrogant. When someone else uses just a square icon with round corners, they are infringing copyrights and when Apple themselves use a copied snap, they are flattering. Wow!

halcyon 10/06/2011 7:40 PM
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warezme :
Apple photoshop something to mislead its sheep???? Nooo!!!!



The iSheep, didn't even know they were looking at a CPU die.

ojas 10/06/2011 7:42 PM
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SneakySnake :
but samsung selling custom UI's that are a clear ripoff of iOS is ok? double standards much?



That's an Android issue, not related to the hardware of the Galaxy Tab.

Anonymous 10/06/2011 9:21 PM
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"That's an Android issue, not related to the hardware of the Galaxy Tab."
how is that an android issue, samsung's touch flow interface is nothing to do with google and android.

Vladislaus 10/06/2011 11:38 PM
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ap3x :
Figures you guys would go there. If they did use a die layout from Intel it was probably given to them or assisted by Intel. Their relationship with Intel is extremely deep to the point where they influence Intel's products in many cases. They are truly partners.


I have my doubts they used the same layout in the chip design. What they did most likely was the photoshop the image of intel's Nehalem.

iam2thecrowe 10/07/2011 12:00 PM
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mdsiu :
Well...someone at Apple is fired


and another lawyer hired


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