Adobe Slams Apple for iPad's Lack of Flash

i hate apple and my iphone 3gs, wish i bought a google nexus one instead

iFail. I have to agree with what others have said, there really seems to be no purpose for this device...just a giant ipod touch minus portability. I would rather get a netbook any day.

One of the first of what will be an ever growing developers shut out by Apple, all in the name of product exclusivity...

Apple is heading towards the bridges with their torches lit...

Even apple fans have to respect the arguement that it was a poor decision for apple to be so closed minded.

Until Adobe can prove it can build secure software, can’t say I blame anyone for steering clear of them.

LOL the iphone lack of mms all over again.....

Like Adobe or not it is difficult to live without Flash. Try it for a while without it and see how it goes.

I believe this all has more to do with Apple wanting us to download apps to line thier pocketbooks both from the consumer and from the companies that make the apps and produce the content.

Oh by the way rawoysters companies are dropping flash. HTML5 will do away with the need for programs like Silverlight and Adobe Flash. One example of a company that is currently in the works of switching is Youtube. See the attached link.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archiv [...] _html5.php

Sure HTML5 may become a standard at some point, but flash will be around for a while and it currently dominates the web in regards to video, cant deny that.

Thats nice, but the iPhail isnt being released in a few years when HTML5 takes over, its being launched now, when 75% of the web is still using Flash.

Let me get this straight, the large volume of cyber-attacks exploiting holes in adobe should be ignored, and I should just thank my lucky stars that I have flash at all from the a “Almighty” Adobe? I don’t think so. Get your house in order Adobe.

What a bunch of whining little girls! Lets all meet back here in one year to see how consumers have voted on the iPad.

What a bunch of whining little girls! Lets all meet back here in one year to see how consumers have voted on the iPad.

Umm, news flash, Adobe is not the only one with holes...*cough* Micrsoft *cough* IE8...or did the Chinese just get lucky when they breached Google?

Flash is essentially obsolete resource hogging tech. It will probably be supported in some way before long but with the advent of HTML5 its days are numbered.

There is no reason why they CANT support it, since far less powerful smartphones already do. But it conflicts with their multimedia sales business. How many people would buy episodes of their favorite TV shows from iTunes when they can just stream it from one of the hundreds of available sites online for free? Or why pay for games from iTunes with all the Flash games out there? Apple wants to control everything you do with the device, and that is lame.

Thats true good Sir, but Ipad doesn't have a Microsoft OS, or IE8, so this shouldn't be a problem. Alot of previous posts have commented flash is a dyng breed so no need to comment further. Ipad will be just fine without Adobe.

Youtube HTML5 video quality also leaves something to be desired, as of yet. Don't get me wrong, Flash leaves many things to be desired too, but HTML5 just isn't a replacement yet.

if HTML5 allows developers to freely create web apps, especially games, I would say apple's support for it would be lagging at best. it's all about control, for instance, they don't allow ANY app that has a scripting system in it.




consumers like Brittany Spears... I think I'll look elsewhere for advice on what makes something good... I don't work for apple, and I don't own apple shares, so whether the stupid sheep consumers flock to it or not makes absolutely no difference to me!

the fact of the matter is, for the average consumer, this device is the future, but - and I'll just check that I'm on the right site... yep, definitly not perez hilton - this site is not for average consumers.

people here are meant to bring to light the liberties and functionality you sacrifice in pursuit of Apple's 'innovation'

Yes, I'm aware of this and I detest Adobe as much as anyone with the lack of security in their products especially Flash, but as the article states 70% of games and 75% of video currently use Flash and the transition will take time.

I detest that insecure, resource hogging piece of junk called Adobe Flash, I think we're all better off without it.

However, due to market presence, I think Apple should allow the hardware accelerated version of Flash on the iPhone OS devices, but preinstall FlashBlock or similar software to prevent flash from running automatically. That way you have the compatibility of Flash, don't have annoying flash ads popping up all over the place, and make it just inconvenient enough to give content providers incentive to move away from Flash.

Don't worry adobe, apple is working on it. It only took apple 2 major revisions to get copy and paste functionality. So I am sure its planned for O.S. 6.0.
Oh well, I guess I have to buy TV shows for my Ipod touch instead if streaming them for free and legal online.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, whats taking so long for 64bit support of flash. I have been waiting for years for it.

For many years Adobe flash was supporting only Windows. Even today flash is not working very well on Mac OS-X and Linux. Compare to flash on Windows the flash on other platforms is beta quality at best and still missing features. I think Adobe tried to build nice monopoly and failed. First is the Silverlight from MS, now HTML5 is coming and now Apple is trying to kill flash. Now Adobe has changed the tune and start opening their proprietary specs, but I thing it is a bit to late.
Other problem with flash are the annoying advertisements. I have no problem receiving ads as long they don't take too much of my time and screen space. Now I am using "NoScript" and flash is disabled by default. I only white-list media player. Web sites that are build all most entirely on flash get ignored. Flash is becoming a victim of aggressive marketing and maximizing a profits .... it become unwanted peace of software on my computers!

+1, not to mention that it is a bloated resource hog.

Agreed. However, I did notice a bit of a improvement with GPU acceleration (in 10.1 Beta) with my nVidia cards (8800GS/9800GTX/8400GS) (haven't tried it on my main gaming rig yet with 4870). Especially when viewing things in Full screen and in HD (youtube).

More benches: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3678&p=2

Imo, Flash started going down hill about the same time Macromedia (remember them?Was there till 2005) was bought off by Adobe.

They should have done it 3 years ago, along with an x64 version.

Flash is a proprietary technology that hasn't been updated in years, why would anybody want it on a platform in 2010? This is the decade of HTML5.

A little sad that Apple isn't supporting flash. It will have a lot of angry customers.

These are the same concerns that were voiced about the iPhone as far back as 2007, yet despite predictions of doom and gloom the iPhone seems to have done okay. The inherent problem with a Flash client on the iPhone, and I imagine the same goes for iPad is that it interprets separately downloaded code, which is forbidden by Apple's developer agreement. Apple's agreement reads, in part, "an Application may not itself install or launch other executable code by any means.” 3.3.2 forbids a generic Flash Player app which allows you to download directly to your iPhone games and utilities written in Flash. This isn't some conspiracy by Apple against Adobe flash, it’s just business. It’s kind of weird defending Apple especially since I’m a PC...lol