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QOTD: What's the Best Computer for a Student?

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Laptop hunters, student edition?

Apple computers have always been a bit of a hit in the education sector, but according to a study by consumer electronics site Retrevo, the majority of college-bound students are not considering a Mac this year, instead opting for something less pricey.

"While Apple has done well historically in the education market, 2009 marks the dawn of the netbook," says Vipin Jain, Retrevo CEO. "Students told us they wanted longer battery life, smaller size, and a lighter laptop. 58% of them plan on spending less than $750.00. Only 18% have a budget over $1,000.00. Netbooks are affordable; some costing only $170.00. In contrast, Apple laptops start at $949.00. At a time when many people are experiencing economic hardship, having a new Apple laptop isn’t a necessity."

With that 17-inch laptop that was on sale at Wal-Mart for under $350, there does seem to be a lot of computer that a student can get if he or she shops around and catches the good deals.

For those of you buying for back to school either for yourself or someone else, what sort of computer (laptop or desktop) would you recommend?

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cadder 08/25/2009 6:27 AM
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A mainstream 15" laptop would do well for most students. They don't need a lot of computing power or fancy features, and 15" machines are the cheapest thing beyond netbooks.

However as my daughter pointed out, sometimes they don't have room on the desktop in some lecture halls for a 15" machine, so if a student is taking the machine to class then maybe a 13" would be better.

If a student really knows that they won't be running anything but light office apps, maybe a netbook is all they need.

joshery420 08/25/2009 6:30 AM
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Assuming you're not trying to game heavily, I love my Dell Studio 15. I got the last generation 1535 series, and they're currently 1537's, but overall it's the same system really. The backlit keyboard isn't something I thought I'd love near as much as I do. It's fantastic for late night work!!

mlcloud 08/25/2009 6:31 AM
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If it was a computer "solely" for the tasks of a student, then anything with a good amount of RAM and a decent CPU would be fine. I'd hate to go anything less than a 2.0ghz duo-core though, because modern OSes tax system resources like no other, and it is very frustrating for the average student if their computer starts to lag, especially once they get a few bloatware and unnecessary start-ups installed onto their laptops. Try doing your homework on a pentium 3... all you need is internet and openoffice? Good luck, even with that...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6834146581
2.00ghz duo core
3gb RAM
15.6inch
250gb HD
Up to 4.6hrs of battery life
$449.99

On the other hand, if they had needs like gaming, everything becomes insanely complicated... balancing graphic power and battery life and screen size and SSD vs HD and....

jhansonxi 08/25/2009 6:32 AM
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A 13in laptop or 9in netbook. A netbook with Linux is better if they are just taking notes, editing documents, viewing PDFs, and web browsing. A laptop is better if they are doing graphics editing or CAD. Another option is a netbook to carry around and RDC into a desktop in their dorm room.

abswindows7 08/25/2009 6:32 AM
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I'd get an i7 975 with 24 gig of ddr3 2000mhz, a 1200 watts power supply with 2 x gtx 295 in SLI with two 128 g SSD in raid 0. Also four 24 inch full hd lcd's :)

I would of course cool that beast with liquid hydrogen :)

That's a school dedicated computer ( If you plan not going to your classes :) )

jhansonxi 08/25/2009 6:47 AM
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abswindows7 :
That's a school dedicated computer ( If you plan not going to your classes )

Considering how many "career" college students I've met, your recommendation makes sense in a scary sort of way. :D

dimar 08/25/2009 6:47 AM
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Anything with Dual Core Celeron or Pentium Dual Core and 3/4GB of RAM will do just fine. Radeon Mobility 3200/4200 is a big plus.

B16CXHatch 08/25/2009 6:52 AM
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Netbooks are just worthless to me. Just to get stuff done and be mobile, a low cost 13-15" Laptop is fine. I used a 15" Compaq with a Celeron 440M with 1.5GB of RAM and Vista Home Basic for 2 years and it's been a trooper. Did everything I needed it too (as well as run some HD video and StepMania) and it didn't cost spit. Lucky for me I had a spare battery and charger from my previous HP (weird to get 2 laptops that used the same stuff a year apart). Even so though, for school, battery life was never a problem. Each battery gave me about 2 hours but I always picked seats with plugs if possible.

But at the same time I had it, I had a desktop. Since I'm a "Power User", I like to have 2 computers (though I actually have about 5 or 6). I have one self built desktop with a 24" monitor for games and anime, then my newer 17" HP laptop that's considerably more powerful (and over twice as expensive) than my previous laptop, that I use for school, mobile use, laziness (I keep it downstairs in my apartment while the desktop is upstairs) etc. I went the exact opposite with it though than the trend. I hate small laptops/netbooks. I walked in the store and said "gimme the biggest SOB you got". Still gets 3 hours battery life and can play Team Fortress 2.

tomtom_32 08/25/2009 6:54 AM
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i'm going to college next semester to start my ME program and i'm definitely going to by a netbook. probably an 11z dell cause i need something to carry around (beside a ton of books and papers!). macs are good but no way i'm gonna spend 1000 bucks for a low end mac. if i need performance i'll put up a high end pc later but right now(and probably never) will i pay 2000$ for a laptop.

Windaria 08/25/2009 7:08 AM
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$2000 for a laptop? Only if you want to get ripped... heck, here, about 1000:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6834220566

Nvidia 240M with 1GB graphics memory, 4GB ram, nice display or, if you want to spend a little over 1200:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6834220563

Then you get true HD display, and some other minor upgrades... you should never have to spend 2K, unless you are just throwing money away...

surfer1337dude 08/25/2009 7:22 AM
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@jhansonxi : That is assuming that they dorm. It is actually very annoying for students who dorm when ppl assume this simply because those who dont usually end up working as well as going to college which is honest very hard.

I myself am a college student (going into my second year in a week). I bought a 15" HP. 2.8 ghz amd x2, 4 gigs ram, 250 gig hdd. This computer is perfect for alot of students. Depending on your major and your uses you can easily get a netbook. My major is engineering so I do need the 15" for things like cad (and my hobbies like watching movies, and editiing pictures/playing games).

To be honest battery life doesnt really matter much because chances are there is an outlet you can easily use. Another point Id like to state though is that for college you do not need any kind of laptop at all. Infact most people do not for many good reasons. I dont even use mine during class because I get bored and start browsing the web, so I only use mine while I have free time between classes to do hw or just browse/play games.

nonxcarbonx 08/25/2009 7:22 AM
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I'd get an ultra-portable and install a solid state drive in it.

Rotating touchscreen, ssd, maybe even a core 2 duo in it? The thing would be classier (no pun intended) than a lot of peoples desktops.

jacobdrj 08/25/2009 7:28 AM
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For science and engineering, I highly recommend a tablet. otherwise either 13.3 or 9 for a commuter, and 15-18" for someone who dorms or games.

anamaniac 08/25/2009 7:30 AM
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Tablet PC.

Some cheap ones out there, and most students don't even need a dual core.

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I failed at convincing my old school to buy students tablets (for advanced mathamatics classes). -_-

Either that or a slim and cheap 13".

thiswillkillthat 08/25/2009 7:33 AM
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This is an idiotic question.

The laptop that will fit the necessities of a student is dependent on the use and the values of the aforementioned student.

The end.

thiswillkillthat 08/25/2009 7:39 AM
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It might also do some good to question the validity of the survey.

As I understand, it was paid for by our dear friends over in Redmond.

manjyomethunder 08/25/2009 7:50 AM
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The Dell Studio XPS 16 for any kind of art student, because of the RGB LED backlit display, yay color gamut and accuracy.

For an average student who just needs to take notes and type up assignments? Any netbook running Ubuntu Linux with OpenOffice or Lotus Symphony.

For any kind of "power user" student, like a computer science student, the Sony VAIO FW. Good balance of power, portability, price, and... a decent GPU for playing games and not doing my assignments...I mean their assignments!

dingumf 08/25/2009 7:53 AM
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A sturdy laptop that can survive a number of drops and spills and at least a dual core. Also at least 6 hours battery life.

leafblower29 08/25/2009 8:24 AM
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Not a Dell

cjl 08/25/2009 8:52 AM
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I'd say that it depends heavily on the major. Some majors need a LOT more computing power than others. My i7 has been fully loaded for the past 2 hours because I'm rendering an animation of an engine in solidworks for example, but it's unlikely that an international affairs major (just to pull a random example out of my ass here) would need that same level of power. For an engineering major, I'd recommend a decently powerful desktop plus a cheap laptop if possible, and otherwise, a decent laptop (2.5GHz C2D + discrete graphics) as a bare minimum. Otherwise, I'd go with something fairly small and light with a good battery life - the Dell Studio 14Z looks like a good option for example. I'd probably not go with an apple though.

DjEaZy 08/25/2009 9:39 AM
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... main criteria is at least dual core CPU and 2Gb of RAM... all other things is a question of the taste...

eddieroolz 08/25/2009 9:54 AM
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I have a DV4-1117CA at the moment. A Core 2 Duo T5800, 4GB RAM.

I find that the laptop is occasionally underpowered for my tasks. For example, when opening 20+ tabs in Firefox it lags significantly.

Hence I don't think the $350 laptops at Wal Mart are anything but useful for just the basic task.

xyster 08/25/2009 9:57 AM
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Anonymous 08/25/2009 10:09 AM
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So much bullshit in here....

xyster 08/25/2009 10:25 AM
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btw, solidworks runs just fine on my old pentium 4 3.2ghz system. i dont think most engineers need a powerful system, but maybe i'm less picky. i never brought my notebook to lecture, it seemed rude somehow, but some people do; i guess a smaller notebook is good in those cases. big or small, fast or cheap; it depends ultimately on the person and need. sorry if you dont agree. :P

cjl 08/25/2009 11:01 AM
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If solidworks runs fine on your P4 3.2, you clearly have never tried any truly complex assemblies, nor have you tried significant simulation, animation, or rendering tasks. It'll do the basics on a fairly low end system, but any time you try to do more complex tasks, it can bring even a fairly high end system to a screeching halt.

cjl 08/25/2009 11:03 AM
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Oh, and I'm closing in on 30 hours of CPU time (% usage * time * threads) on my render on a 3.73GHz i7, and it's almost done. For reference, this is a render of an aircraft engine in motion, done at 1080p60 for 20 seconds. If you think solidworks isn't CPU intensive, think again.

backbydemand 08/25/2009 11:37 AM
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If you are using simple office tasks like word processing, spreadsheets and some basic web browsing to do school/college/university work, then why are the system requirements any higher now than they were 5 years ago?

A Centrino 2Ghz, tops, run Windows XP and spend more money on beer.

abbadon_23 08/25/2009 12:17 PM
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Anything cheap, i.e. $500 or under, will have plenty of power for Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Internet. This is for EDUCATION, right ?

abbadon_23 08/25/2009 12:23 PM
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P.S. When I went to college in 1996 I took a Cyrix 166+ Win95, no cd burner, just an MPEG TV card to watch TV. Upgrade from 16mb to 32 mb ram. 1.2GB hard drive was the shit. I was stoked an out 10Mb/s Lan connection to the backbone.

abbadon_23 08/25/2009 12:23 PM
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Oh yea, cost $2000


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