The burning platform is still burning.
IDC released its quarterly cellphone shipment estimate, stating that the market grew by only 2.4 percent year over year, from 434.1 million to 444.5 million units. The smartphone market was solely responsible for the growth and compensated for a substantial drop in feature phone shipments. IDC said that smartphone shipments were 179.7 million units in Q3 2012, compared to 123.7 million units in Q3 2011.
Samsung leads the Smartphone market with 56.3 million units, representing a 31.3 percent market share. Apple came in with 26.9 million (15.0 percent), followed by RIM with 7.7 million (4.3 percent). ZTE and HTC complete the top 5 with 7.5 and 7.3 million units. Nokia is no longer listed among the top 5.
"Nokia's share losses have meant gains for competitors," said Kevin Restivo, senior research analyst with IDC. "The company's transition away from Symbian-powered smartphones to ones shipped with Windows Phone has left ample opportunity for rivals to steal share away from Nokia over the past 18 months. However, the smartphone market is still relatively nascent, which means there's room for multiple vendors and operating systems to flourish, including Nokia."
Among all shipped phones, Nokia is still the number 2 behind Samsung. Samsung shipped 105.4 million phones overall, while Nokia was able to ship 82.9 million. Apple's 26.9 million iPhones also enabled the company to now be listed as the world's third largest cellphone maker.
M$ will not gain anything from buying Nokia, as M$ already have access to all they need and can use Nokia patents without anyone can sue them and the only one really gaining something would be Samsung, as then Apple would need to pay them a patent fee.
I think the most important for Nokia is that their plan B will be fast to execute as I don't see that resellers are happy with MS, operators ain't happy with MS and it seems end customers ain't looking for MS in their phone as they do for their desktops.
wow, this guy is a genius! Reminds me of Dan Quayle with "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." hahaha
if we define success as going up and failure as going down, relative to some reference point, then not succeeding does not necessarily mean failure if we still maintain our reference point status. So i wouldn't discount DQ as totally an airball.
Look at whats happening to HTC i personally think HTC makes great quality phones i like the feel of them more than Samsungs and they perform similarly but yet HTC while still profitable no longer as much as they were its shaping up to be iOS is iPhone android is Samsung and windows phone is Nokia(the htc 8x is terrible compared to 920) lets wait and see how windows phone does before we say if Nokia fails or not.
On a similar note china mobile picked up the 920 and apparently its looking like its going to be very successful over there i don't know much about the Chinese market but i do know that 600 million subscribers is nothing to scoff at and the only windows phone i know of that will be on china mobile is the 920 and probably 820 so just 5 percent of china mobile trying windows phone would be 30 million+ people
Also nokia has a ton of patents that other companies use even if Nokia stops making phones they will be far from broke still.
tl;dr Nokia on android would have been bankrupt faster wait and see how the 920 does on china mobile before judging whats in store for Nokia's future
MS wouldn't gain a lot in terms of patents, but it would gain a lot in terms of manufacturing capability and know how and a knowledge of the cell phone business. Since MS is starting to build its own tablets, it would make sense to buy a company to make phones instead of going out and trying to start it from scratch.
We will see what happens. I'm not writing Nokia off yet though. As others have noted, the future of Nokia has a lot to do with the future of Win 8.
Hopefully Nokia starts to produce a Win 8 phone with Intel insides and an x86 architecture. That would be something that I would buy.
That's a very narrow, America-centric view. The US is a small part of the world market, and you have completely ignored that.
My first cell phone was a Nokia XXXX, back in 1996. Then I had 2 more Nokia phones until 2001 when I got a Sony Ericsson. It was my first cell with a color screen. I replaced it with another Nokia then followed by a Sony. In 2005, I got a Blackberry 7300, replaced by two more Blackberries until an iPhone 3GS in 2009, then-> 4 -> 4S
Sum -
4 Nokia's
2 Sony's
3 Blackberries
3 iPhones
Nokia's - always were falling apart after about 11 months and were taped by a Scotch tape; horrible software update experience. Confusing alpha numerical naming was hard to remember.
Sony - worked like a charm but nothing special
Blackberries - were excellent for the time but poor web browsing and app experience
iPhones - amazing user experience for web browsing and apps but "walled garden" ecosystem.
IMO - Nokia missed the boat with web browsing/apps and had horrible hardware durability/longevity and model name recognition.
-IvanTO
actually as far as I know, if you handle your phone carefully enough, you will never break it, I know people who have nokias for years and haven't broken, their updates are great, my brother's 5530 still gets updates till now
and I'm sure iPhones have much less durability than nokias
sonys are great too, I'm sure they're better than iphones
BTW nokia's naming scheme isn't hard at all
yes.
I used to drop my phones pretty often and I am more careful these days. When iPhone 4 fell, just once, the back glass panel cracked and had to be replaced for $30, but looked like new. But my user experience with Nokia's is that they were falling apart, some buttons would stop working and batteries would stop charging. Never had problems with Sony Ericsson or BB.
Nokia model names are meaningless. What the difference between these phones?
Samsung Galaxy S, Galaxy S2 and Galaxy S3? pretty easy to spot
iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, iPhone 5? pretty easy to spot
and
Nokia 6300, Nokia C7-00, Nokia N-Gage, QDNokia WILDFIREC ? too confusing
see their line up here
http://www.cellforcash.com/cellular-phone-models/nokia-cellular-phones.asp
-IvanTO