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SteamOS Uses Nvidia's Streaming Tech; Ref Design on Weds

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A supposed Valve employee spills the beans on what to expect this week, and it sounds legit.

A supposed Valve Software employee has jumped on popular site 4chan to spill the beans on what the company plans to reveal on Wednesday and Friday. Posting only as Anonymous, he also discusses why Valve chose to use Linux as the foundation, dishes out a few insults towards Microsoft, and talks about the platform's streaming feature. But take all of this with a grain of salt: it's easy to write fiction while under the anonymous umbrella.

For starters, as expected, Valve will supposedly reveal a reference design on Wednesday, not a complete out-of-the-box console. This design will be highly upgradable by the end user to that customers aren't locked into one hardware set for a near decade. Xi3 Corp could still be one of these partners, and maybe even Zotac and a few other barebones Mini PC providers, but the unnamed source indicates that the ideal form factor may not be quite that small.

"It will support all hardware. All CPUs, all GPUs -- from three generations ago at the oldest for Nvidia, two for AMD and all going forward," the unnamed employee claims. "The release design, however, will have a Nvidia GPU and an AMD CPU. It will use regular PC parts, however, there will be a certification program. We have to guarantee some sort of baseline performance – if there's analog out, then the audio must not crackle, PSUs that are small won't burn your house down, small cases without retarded branding, low latency wireless networking, etc. You are free to build an 800 pound glowing monstrosity if you wish, and it'll work, but that's not really what we want you to do. There will also be prebuilt and bundled solutions."

So that's part two of the reveal: a certification program for hardware builders looking to provide full solutions, and a reference design for the ideal "Steam Box". As revealed on Monday, Valve is also releasing the SteamOS platform not only for Valve partners for creating a complete package, but for PC gamers wanting to build their own Steam Box. He said that the reference design doesn't use Intel because the company wanted to be paid for its involvement while Valve in turn would be marketing Intel's hardware for free.

"[Nvidia] reached out to us and have been extremely cooperative," the employee said. "They even let us use their streaming tech – the one they showcase on the Shield (which is getting Steam integration, btw, as are all Tegra devices), even though we told them it would have to work on AMD cards. If you were wondering what Nvidia was unveiling soon that wasn't a video card, this is it. They're the first choice for Steam Box hardware. (We even set it up so that it rains on AMD's video card announcement, kek). Expect extremely good Linux drivers from them over the next few months. AMD is… hesitant to comment."

That's it for Wednesday. On Friday Valve will not reveal new Steam peripherals, but the Source 2 game engine. The employee said it won't have a line of DirectX in it (meaning it presumably supports only OpenGL), but will work on Linux, Windows and OS X – possibly even the PlayStation 4 in the future. There will also be a game possibly using this engine that will be bundled with Nvidia cards and redeemed on Steam Boxes.

The update also goes into how Linux is faster than a Windows platform, and how Microsoft is extremely lazy and greedy. We've already heard Gabe Newell thrash the Windows 8 platform, so it's no surprise hearing similar talk from supposed employees. Windows is the real cancer killing PC gaming, not consoles, he claims.

Naturally take all of the new Valve talk as simply rumor until Valve dishes out the official news on Wednesday and Friday. Cross your fingers the new Source 2 game is Half-Life 3!

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    back_by_demand , September 24, 2013 5:23 PM
    MS has not prevented anyone from releasing a game for Windows, unless it was a game made by them, if you want to shout a somebody for not releasing GTA V on PC (for example) you should direct your anger at Rockstar. You can argue the technical benefits of DX and OpenGL all day, but neither has prevented anyone from releasing games and seeing as Steam is the defacto PC gaming platform the only reason I see Valve knee jerk reacting is the assumption that Marketplace will supplant Steam as a games shop - Gabe really should calm down because it is making the natives nervous
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    rolli59 , September 24, 2013 4:58 PM
    Anxiously waiting!
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    Amdlova , September 24, 2013 5:01 PM
    We've already heard Gabe Newell thrash the Windows 8 platform, so it's no surprise hearing similar talk from supposed employees. Windows is the real cancer killing PC gaming, not consoles, he claims. (SO TRUE)
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    Teeroy32 , September 24, 2013 5:06 PM
    Give me Half Life 3 already, take my damn money, can't wait for Steam OS, makes me Glad I have an AMD cpu and an Nvidia card now( I know AMD will work too but I've had troubles installing Linux on an AMD gpu and BSOD from radeon driver updates just last year and I only use stable drivers), especially how games are starting to progress and use all 6 of my cpu cores, plus games will be coded for AMD chps in the next gen consoles it should only get better.
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    back_by_demand , September 24, 2013 5:23 PM
    MS has not prevented anyone from releasing a game for Windows, unless it was a game made by them, if you want to shout a somebody for not releasing GTA V on PC (for example) you should direct your anger at Rockstar. You can argue the technical benefits of DX and OpenGL all day, but neither has prevented anyone from releasing games and seeing as Steam is the defacto PC gaming platform the only reason I see Valve knee jerk reacting is the assumption that Marketplace will supplant Steam as a games shop - Gabe really should calm down because it is making the natives nervous
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    CaptainTom , September 24, 2013 5:28 PM
    This is interesting that AMD is "Hesitant" to support the SteamBox, and yet it is using an AMD CPU. Either way everyone wins since AMD GPU's will be able to stream!
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    Teeroy32 , September 24, 2013 5:35 PM
    Sorry double post some how, first time I've had this glitch.
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    JD88 , September 24, 2013 5:42 PM
    I'm not sure why because this is definitely a long shot by Valve, but this thing reeks of win.

    They need to secure a major hardware partner to really push it over the edge though. Someone like Asus perhaps who has the distribution power to make sure those cool reference boxes are sitting on shelves at Game Stop, Wal-Mart, and Best Buy right next to the xfail one and PS4.
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    godfather666 , September 24, 2013 6:40 PM
    What he says seems plausible... but then again, no real proof to convince us that he's a real Valve employee.
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    lpedraja2002 , September 24, 2013 7:11 PM
    Oh my god, if this turns out to be false I don't know if my nerves will take it. Seriously if this is false then Valve is an official troller for not saying anything about Half-Life 3. Oh pleas be true!!!!
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    Blessedman , September 24, 2013 7:49 PM
    Of course windows is the cancer killing PC gaming. Why do they want competition from themselves? Why give a free platform to develop and release on when there is a TON of money to be made on the console side of things. So in the right perspective, the consoles/phones/tablets are driving M$ to kill the PC as we know it. I just think Ballmer and the M$ machine are too greedy to get what they should have been doing all along... GIVE the OS away for free and lock down development and charge a distribution/activation fee. Which is now what they are trying to do but it's killing the platform because you can't expect a good reaction from taking away free heroin from an addict!
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    JD88 , September 24, 2013 8:08 PM
    `Microsoft is becoming more and more like Apple daily and this isn't a good thing. MS wants everyone to buy from their app store and nothing else. That's why they're cramming Metro down our throats and that's why they are still fighting to keep Win RT alive. It has nothing to do with the efficiency of ARM CPUs or whatever other BS excuses they came up with, it comes down to wanting to have a closed ecosystem in which everything installed on the PC goes through them.

    They want that app store revenue. Period.

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    Razec69 , September 24, 2013 9:06 PM
    WOW. I'm a fan of Windows, and by that I mean, I'm not the extremist that hates Windows so much that I would only stick to Linux.

    I believe MS/Windows does a lot of things wrong, but WOW do I have to agree that Microsoft are the ones killing PC gaming. I appreciate Valve for what they do, and I don't get why the hell MS can't follow.

    I loved the concept of Games For Windows Live. I thought it was great (my personal opinion) but the incredible lack of support from Microsoft (how the hell can you push a DRM/Gaming Service and not even release your own games ex. Halo and Fable were the last few games) killed the service.

    I really don't understand what the hell they are thinking half the time. I really wish they could be smart and be the leading factor in PC gaming, hell they build the OS that 99% of games on run, why not give 1% more support.

    I hope this SteamOS is something great, would love to have a true gaming experience instead of the huge bloatware behind Windows. If Microsoft was smart they'd release Windows Elite/Gamer edition where it wouldn't run the billions of background services, just let you play games and/or make it like the Xbox One where you can switch back and forth from the main OS to the Gaming OS.

    I'd solve all of Microsoft's problems in a day, if those idiots weren't such idiots.
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    blackjackedy , September 24, 2013 10:07 PM
    Though it does seem like the kind of announcement they will be making, I would never trust 4chan as a reputable source for anything.

    Or maybe I just can't accept that John Kerry is a ritualistic gay reptilian
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    Teeroy32 , September 24, 2013 10:15 PM
    Give me Half Life 3 already, take my damn money, can't wait for Steam OS, makes me Glad I have an AMD cpu and an Nvidia card now( I know AMD will work too but I've had troubles installing Linux on an AMD gpu and BSOD from radeon driver updates just last year and I only use stable drivers), especially how games are starting to progress and use all 6 of my cpu cores, plus games will be coded for AMD chps in the next gen consoles it should only get better.
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    magicandy , September 24, 2013 11:02 PM
    If he is really a Valve insider I find it kind of curious that he didn't just say all this before Monday's Steam OS announcement. Everyone knew Steam Box and HL3 were down the line somewhere, but no one could have predicted Steam OS. If he came out on Sunday or earlier chirping about something we actually hadn't heard yet it would be one thing, but everything he's talking about are things anyone could guess on. If he told us about SteamOS before it was announced on Monday, then I would listen.
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    back_by_demand , September 24, 2013 11:33 PM
    That's half a dozen posts all saying the same thing, that MS is killing PC gaming, simply not true. Nobody has provided a shred of information as to why so it reeks of bandwagoning. Simple questions, if a dev does not make a game for Windows or a shop does not stack it on a shelf, how is that the fault of MS? And don't say Metro because that hasn't stopped anyone installing or playing.
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    ojas , September 24, 2013 11:38 PM
    Interesting. I thought Valve wasn't going to use Nvidia's streaming tech because it would have too many restrictions.
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    ojas , September 24, 2013 11:40 PM
    Interesting. I thought Valve wasn't going to use Nvidia's streaming tech because it would have too many restrictions.
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    x2ruff4u , September 25, 2013 12:07 AM
    What is 4chan?
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    rahul18348 , September 25, 2013 12:23 AM
    Imagine if HL3 is an exclusive to SteamBox/SteamOS (Like Halo was for XBox). That will really give a jumpstart to this whole project. It will also establish a userbase for SteamBox/SteamOS so more developers can jump on the valve bandwagon.
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