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Win7 XP Mode Drops Virtualization Hardware Need

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Wanting to run XP Mode inside your Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate? Now you don't need a special CPU anymore.

One of the more interesting technologies inside Windows 7 that should ease all sorts of upgrade and application compatibility worries is XP Mode – a virtual Windows XP that can operate inside Windows 7 Professional and Ultimate.

Up until today, those who wanted to run XP Mode in their modern OS would be required to have hardware virtualization support through Intel VT or AMD-V. Now that requirement has been lifted, though those with virtualization hardware will still see better performance.

Microsoft announced the change in a press release dealing with new virtualization initiatives: "Windows XP Mode no longer requires hardware virtualization technology. This change simplifies the experience by making virtualization more accessible to many more PCs for small and midsize businesses wanting to migrate to Windows 7 Professional or higher editions, while still running Windows XP-based productivity applications."

Check out the updated software here.

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bison88 03/20/2010 1:49 AM
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Hey thats good news, but for whom? Windows 7 is the future my friends. Don't fear it, embrace it and overcome all issues the upgrade may cause its okay everything is going to be OK!

nukem950 03/20/2010 1:55 AM
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Quote :Hey thats good news, but for whom? Windows 7 is the future my friends. Don't fear it, embrace it and overcome all issues the upgrade may cause its okay everything is going to be OK!

The reason I like is xp is because of older softer. That includes games. I have had all sorts of issues under vista and now with DX11.

That is why I keep XP.

False_Dmitry_II 03/20/2010 3:04 AM
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On the other hand I have an XP install that just sits there doing nothing cause it's just in case.

jrharbort 03/20/2010 3:33 AM
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nukem950 :
The reason I like is xp is because of older softer. That includes games. I have had all sorts of issues under vista and now with DX11.That is why I keep XP.


Please forgive me, but isn't that what virtualization and XP mode is supposed to help fix? It allows you to run your apps within a Windows XP environment.

I admit when I got my current notebook I went for XP instead of Vista, but I'm getting Windows 7 for sure this year. It wont be much longer before Microsoft and game developers drop Windows XP support all together.

haha49 03/20/2010 4:16 AM
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ahh... I manged to get it to work in the basic windows 7.. all I had to do was install it wouldnt install the windows file but I installed it like a new os and then bam it worked few updates to sp3 then windows had a vm update and its the same now :p

ALANMAN 03/20/2010 4:23 AM
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jrharbort :
Please forgive me, but isn't that what virtualization and XP mode is supposed to help fix? It allows you to run your apps within a Windows XP environment.I admit when I got my current notebook I went for XP instead of Vista, but I'm getting Windows 7 for sure this year. It wont be much longer before Microsoft and game developers drop Windows XP support all together.



This doesn't work for games (no support for a real GPU). This is something businesses and such are more likely to need as they hold off on writing new software for the new OS.

apache_lives 03/20/2010 5:06 AM
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Lutfij 03/20/2010 5:19 AM
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very very good news indeedy! i now can migrate to the 7 on my E4300 :)

ok now to find the softwares which werent compatible on 7...

Zomby 03/20/2010 5:20 AM
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bison88 :
Hey thats good news, but for whom? Windows 7 is the future my friends. Don't fear it, embrace it and overcome all issues the upgrade may cause its okay everything is going to be OK!



From a home user standpoint, it's a no-brainer. But for a business whose operation might depend on older software that don't work correctly in a newer OS, this is invaluable.

apache_lives :
Who actually uses Windows 7 *WITHOUT* a VT enabled processor - hell it came with the Pentium D's and there garbage - what do people still use? Pentium 4's? Time to move on!



A business with a few hundred computers might not have the financial capability to change all of their computer as often as they would like to. So they often end up with older PCs that could still run the latest OS. They are tha main target for this update.

judeh101 03/20/2010 5:21 AM
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apache_lives :
Who actually uses Windows 7 *WITHOUT* a VT enabled processor - hell it came with the Pentium D's and there garbage - what do people still use? Pentium 4's? Time to move on!


I own a C2D E4300 and it came without VT. Several of my friends own a C2Q Q8200, and it comes without VT. This would be very helpful if xp mode drops VT.

pollom 03/20/2010 6:36 AM
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I have turion x2 RM72 and I use Windows xp mode because I use freescale codewarrior and codewarrior doesn’t support windows x64.
Windows xp mode is great and fast.
:)

judeh101 03/20/2010 6:40 AM
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Lutfij :
very very good news indeedy! i now can migrate to the 7 on my E4300 ok now to find the softwares which werent compatible on 7...


High Five! E4300 user here too! :D

JohnnyLucky 03/20/2010 7:40 AM
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I built a new pc and installed Windows 7. Luckily I was able to download and install Win 7 comaptible versions of all the software and utilities I use. :D

FUtomNOreg 03/20/2010 8:21 AM
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Wow, it sounds like, uh, Virtualbox.

skligmund 03/20/2010 8:21 AM
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WinXP is going to be like DOS, in the fact so much is designed around/for it, that it will be around for a very long time out of necessity.

jsc 03/20/2010 8:55 AM
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E5200 also does not have hardware support.

Manos 03/20/2010 10:12 AM
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nukem950 :
The reason I like is xp is because of older softer. That includes games. I have had all sorts of issues under vista and now with DX11.That is why I keep XP.



It's one thing making the mistake of comparing Vista with Win 7 but sad not knowing their basic diffference and why i's worth for everyone to finally move from XP to Win 7. To put it simply for you ( and im actually trying to be helpful for you to see the light and move on from XP cause it IS worth it ) Win 7 is as compatible as XP, as fancy as Vista and more ergonomic and flexi than XP even so go figure. Good lack with it.

ta152h 03/20/2010 4:20 PM
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skligmund :
WinXP is going to be like DOS, in the fact so much is designed around/for it, that it will be around for a very long time out of necessity.



You're very confused. Win XP is just a bad version of Windows 2000, which was a good version of Windows NT. Win XP is like saying DOS 3.3, it's just a version that was around for a while. PC-DOS (or MS-DOS) was a family of operating systems, Windows XP is part of a family (Windows NT).

PC-DOS is still around because it's simple and works in Real Mode. Windows XP isn't simple, and works in 386 Protected, or x86-64 mode, just like Windows 7.

The interesting thing is, people didn't like XP when it came out. Now, with time, people somehow think it's good. It was a bloated version of Windows 2000, with a bad interface that people changed back to 'classic view'.

Microsoft does stuff like this to make more money (not a crime, or necessarily even a bad thing). Think about it. If you have a whole bunch of hardware out there that can't upgrade to your operating system with full function, you suddenly open up a lot of possible machines to upgrade. Some wanted the security of XP mode, and many, many Pentium based Conroes and Penryns sold, so they make their OS more attractive for a huge number of machines, and that increase potential upgrades.

Anonymous 03/20/2010 5:55 PM
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Go to the MSFT download page.
Set download buttons for 7 Pro 64 bit
Get popup to install Windows Genuine Advantage so MSFT "can repair damage to my OS license"
Run the app from popup.
Does it's thing, tells me it is installed.
Go back reset the downlaod buttons for 7 Pro 64 bit
Get popup to install Windows Genuine Advantage so MSFT "can repair damage to my OS license"
Run the app from popup.
Does it's thing, tells me it is installed.
. . .
Endless loop of idocy.
MSFT is the only company I know of that will build a half decent product and then trash it for reasons known only to Ballmer & Sons

Regulas 03/20/2010 9:37 PM
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bison88 :
Hey thats good news, but for whom? Windows 7 is the future my friends. Don't fear it, embrace it and overcome all issues the upgrade may cause its okay everything is going to be OK!


Are you a troll or what! The XP compatibility still does not support gaming, just business software.

The future my friend is with Open Source, Linux, Open Office and likes.

Regulas 03/20/2010 9:39 PM
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jrharbort :
Please forgive me, but isn't that what virtualization and XP mode is supposed to help fix? It allows you to run your apps within a Windows XP environment.I admit when I got my current notebook I went for XP instead of Vista, but I'm getting Windows 7 for sure this year. It wont be much longer before Microsoft and game developers drop Windows XP support all together.


Windows7 XP mode does not support games (3D), only business software.

dertechie 03/21/2010 2:36 AM
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apache_lives :
Who actually uses Windows 7 *WITHOUT* a VT enabled processor - hell it came with the Pentium D's and there garbage - what do people still use? Pentium 4's? Time to move on!



Intel disabled VT on many, many CPUs, seemingly at random. D 9x0s have it, D 9x5s don't, and Core 2 derivatives even as high as E7x00s had it disabled. While ostensibly for market segmentation, I really have to wonder if Intel's marketing department just has a sadistic streak, since only hardware junkies have a hope of figuring out the mire of feature support on their processors.

th_at 03/21/2010 12:13 PM
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bison88 :
Hey thats good news, but for whom? Windows 7 is the future my friends. Don't fear it, embrace it and overcome all issues the upgrade may cause its okay everything is going to be OK!



You do understand, that XP Mode is a feature of Windows 7, don't you? And that XP Mode is one way to overcome the issues of an upgrade, namely the incompatability of some older software.

What you're saying is like telling a guy in a wheelchair that walking is the future.

hoof_hearted 03/21/2010 1:24 PM
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meepstone 03/21/2010 4:28 PM
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I made the switch to win7 when it came out. I don't have any problems with any games. I cant comprehend why this is an obstacle some people have with upgrading.

Anonymous 03/21/2010 7:06 PM
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Good,
Most people without special cpu would run MS Virtual PC anyways.
Now there's no need for that anymore.

judeh101 03/21/2010 7:37 PM
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hoof_hearted :
But can it play Crysis?


Why would we want to play crysis under xp mode? It works well under 7 and vista ;)

aylafan 03/21/2010 7:50 PM
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What kind of games are you guys playing that would not work in Windows 7? Most of my games from the year 2000 or so have work perfectly fine in Windows 7. The only game that I had trouble installing in Windows 7 was Command & Conquer: Red Alert and with a simple patch that was solved. It's not like you guys play 16-bit computer games on a daily basis anymore... or do you?

I mean... who still plays the original versions like: Age of Empires (Age of Empires 3: The Asian Dynasties), Warcraft 2 (Warcraft 3: Reign of Chaos), The Sims (The Sims 3), Doom (Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil), Civilization (Civilization Revolution), Grand Theft Auto (Grand Theft Auto IV), Tomb Raider (Tomb Raider: Underworld), Command & Conquer: The Covert Operations (Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars - Kane's Wrath), etc. when there are newer versions of these games out right now... that are far better and have better graphics.

I have to agree though. XP Mode was specifically made for business use and not for playing computer games. I don't see the reason why you shouldn't upgrade to Windows 7 because it really is the best Windows OS I have used so far. Paying $90 ($35 for university students) to use Windows 7 Home Premium on a daily basis doesn't sound so bad to me. Considering that you are paying $45+ for most PS3 or Xbox 360 games these days (that you will stop playing, once you get bored of them or finished playing them).

lauxenburg 03/21/2010 9:39 PM
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You need XP mode to run MS office 03? Wow. MS failure. Atleast wrap it in a Windows 7 border not an ugly XP one.

ncarlson 03/22/2010 1:06 AM
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All I want is full directX support in XP mode.

Darktimes 03/22/2010 3:46 AM
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Thats cool, because my system does not have that Hardware VT stuff, my only question, is XP mode fully dx9 functionlly, also can you increase the ram to well 1GB or more?


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