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China Closes Hacker Training Site w/ 180K Users

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

China has shut down a training site for computer hackers and arrested three people in connection with the site.

Chinese media reports today say that the country has shut down Black Hawk Safety Net, a website that gave lessons in hacking and sold downloads of malicious software.

According to China Daily, Black Hawk Safety Net had recruited more than 12,000 premium or paid members, collecting more than 7 million yuan ($1m or £650,000) in membership fees. The site had also garnered 170,000 users registered for unpaid, free membership. Users were provided with cyber attack lessons and Trojan software; however, it is unclear if the 170,000 members with free accounts received the same lessons and software as paid members.

Additional reports say China has arrested three people in connection with the website.

Read the full story here.

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Regulas 02/08/2010 3:15 PM
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Don't you mean China has moved and hidden their hacker training center.

JohnnyLucky 02/08/2010 3:17 PM
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Hacker training site? That doesn't sound good at all.

mfarrukh 02/08/2010 3:31 PM
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This is not good

KC8DKT 02/08/2010 3:40 PM
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Anyone else thinking they found this with the help of some hacked google info?

cookoy 02/08/2010 3:58 PM
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For failing to meet their monthly quota of hacked foreign intelligence secrets
or for getting adventurous hacking the Chinese gov't intelligence network?

r3t4rd 02/08/2010 3:58 PM
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Damnit...now I have to take my classes elsewhere.

omnimodis78 02/08/2010 3:59 PM
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This is just a show. A distraction. Nothing more.

zak_mckraken 02/08/2010 4:06 PM
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The 170,000 unpaying members were probably hacked by the 12,000 paying ones.

lurker123 02/08/2010 4:12 PM
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It was competing with Chicom approved hacker training?

Cache 02/08/2010 4:12 PM
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This is just a minor drop in the bucket for Chinese hackers, however. It's little more than lip service to the US to show that the Chinese government is 'getting serious' about policing illegal activities in its' own borders.

r3t4rd 02/08/2010 4:14 PM
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tommysch 02/08/2010 4:17 PM
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They shut this thing up only to get some pressure relief regarding the whole Google thing. Now they can say: look we are ''addressing'' the issue.

sliem 02/08/2010 5:03 PM
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"however it is unclear if the 170,000 members with free accounts received the same lessons and software as paid members."

What, of course not. It would be dumb.

drksilenc 02/08/2010 5:14 PM
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or they knew how to hack and hacked the paying members

the_krasno 02/08/2010 5:20 PM
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They moved to Iran.

grieve 02/08/2010 5:49 PM
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Cache :
This is just a minor drop in the bucket for Chinese hackers, however. It's little more than lip service to the US to show that the Chinese government is 'getting serious' about policing illegal activities in its' own borders.



I agree
Ultimately it won't matter if the site is down anyhow as these 170,000 potential hackers are still 170,000 potential hackers less one web site to gain info from. If these people went as far as to seek instruction on hacking, a website being shut down will NOT stop them.

At the end of the day all 170,000 are now looking for resources elsewhere.

mlopinto2k1 02/08/2010 6:24 PM
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wildwell 02/08/2010 6:32 PM
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grieve :
I agreeUltimately it won't matter if the site is down anyhow as these 170,000 potential hackers are still 170,000 potential hackers less one web site to gain info from. If these people went as far as to seek instruction on hacking, a website being shut down will NOT stop them.At the end of the day all 170,000 are now looking for resources elsewhere.


Like Russia.

maigo 02/08/2010 6:33 PM
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Now they have to hack their way to a hacker site... The irony

officeguy 02/08/2010 6:34 PM
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Why would you pay money to learn how to hack? I would be concerned that if I gave my credit card or Paypal account to access the site that the people who is hosting would hack the "want-to-be" hackers. Maybe it is just me!!

wiglyworm 02/08/2010 6:35 PM
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Regulas :
Don't you mean China has moved and hidden their hacker training center.



From my experience with living in China for nearly 2 years ,I have to say you are 100% on the money with that statement !! haha, the love doing things in the public eye to make it "seem" as if they have done right by the people! hahaha! yeah right!

wiglyworm 02/08/2010 6:41 PM
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I know that every country has their dark nook that they don't want everyone to know about, but after living all over the globe (including China) I feel that when the public (public meaning people who think FOX news is the all knowing god) then everyone on an international level will be completely put off with China's little antics.

mianmian 02/08/2010 7:18 PM
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China is clearing most of the personal website with more restrictions. This "hacker training" site could be one of them. To my opinion, most of the free members are just normal people who are interested in hacking knowledge.
What I am not sure is if the law of US allows a site teaches hacking knowledge. It is interesting.

hennnry 02/08/2010 7:22 PM
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So you poeple suddenly think it's OK to close an internet site that's about software (hacking or not, it's just software) training, but it's not OK to close sites of other things. How is this one sided so called freedom of speech and press really work in your poeple's eyes? So is it that only things you agree with should be having the freedom of press, but things you don't approve should not?

Then if you, and all of you who just left the comments here think this way, how are you truely different from the Chinese government you hate? Time and again, people prove that they don't really want freedom for things and ideas they hate, they only want freedom of what of they want and beleive. The difference though, is that some poeple is not afraid to say this, while others cower and hides behind their self rightous claims.

ukcal 02/08/2010 7:35 PM
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Hacker training? The more I hear about China, the more I am convinced they are obsessed in maintaining a society that is in every way opposite to everywhere else.

mayne92 02/08/2010 7:41 PM
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r3t4rd :
Hillary: Wa shir United States ee shoo yar ee char tsi fooking Hackers!!Chinese Govt: Ne' er ma shore chun yee tsi ma er da fooking sher Hackers. Ne sha er tsa moo shi fooking Agent merdai con shoo. Hillary: Tsa! Tsa! Ner yer yer American fy mer mer?Translation: Hillary: We the United States want you to hand over your hackers or are they eating at "Fooking Resatuarant"?Chinese: We already arested our hackers. Our Agents are the ones eating at "Fooking Restaurant". Hillary: Great! Great!....you old granpa chinese love american boobs?


Sorry but that has to be the MOST "retard"ed comment I have ever seen...anywhere!

mayne92 02/08/2010 7:48 PM
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mianmian :
China is clearing most of the personal website with more restrictions. This "hacker training" site could be one of them. To my opinion, most of the free members are just normal people who are interested in hacking knowledge. What I am not sure is if the law of US allows a site teaches hacking knowledge. It is interesting.


In my grad school for information technology...I was taught how to do alot of "hacking" but it wasn't so we could hack...it was so that we understood what and why it was happening and how to implement better security. So learning how to "hack" isn't always a bad thing ~wink~

mayne92 02/08/2010 7:52 PM
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wiglyworm :
... I feel that when the public (public meaning people who think FOX news is the all knowing god)...


Wait, are you saying FOX news is the only non-liberal news station in existence? haha!

JonathanDeane 02/08/2010 7:56 PM
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mayne92 :
In my grad school for information technology...I was taught how to do alot of "hacking" but it wasn't so we could hack...it was so that we understood what and why it was happening and how to implement better security. So learning how to "hack" isn't always a bad thing ~wink~



I used to do real black hat stuff when I was younger then I remember them passing some laws about cyber terrorism and I stopped cold.... I really never did anything too horrid (well maybe a hundred thousand people with out internet for a few hours, but that part was not anticipated.....) I remember hand coding packets with fake headers spoofed mac and spoof source ip. Honestly if you asked me to do this stuff today it would take me months to get back up to speed. But at least I know how most of it still works so its really useful in the end...

one-shot 02/08/2010 8:08 PM
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This just ridiculous. I don't how people can let this happen. No, I'm not talking about the hacking. This article is about two paragraphs long and still wasn't proofread.

"Users were provider with cyber attack lessons"

C'mon, Jane. It took me 15 seconds to read the article. I'm sure it could have taken the same amount of time to proofread it once. :)

omnimodis78 02/08/2010 8:46 PM
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