China: We Don't Hack the U.S.
This week has been filled with reports about the apparent hacking of the Pentagon.
A report in the Wall Street Journal claimed that cyber-spies had hacked into the Department of Defense’s most expensive project to date, the $300 billion Joint Strike Fighter project. Citing current and former government officials familiar with the attacks, reporters at the Wall Street Journal said the attacks appeared to have originated in China. The Journal report also quoted “a person briefed on the matter” as saying investigators had traced the penetrations back “with a high level of certainty” to known Chinese IP addresses. The WSJ also included excerpts from a Pentagon report that claimed the Chinese military had made "steady progress" in developing online-warfare techniques in an attempt to compensate for an underdeveloped military.
The AFP reports that while fielding questions on the report that appeared in the WSJ, China insisted it was opposed to internet crimes. "Some people keep making up stories, I don't know what their intentions are," foreign ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu told the AFP. "We resolutely oppose and crackdown on cyber crimes, including hacking."
The hacking of the Joint Strike Fighter project has come under scrutiny following a statement from the lead contractor on the project, Lockheed Martin Corp. The company said it believed the WSJ report was "incorrect in its representation of successful cyber attacks” and maintained that to its knowledge there has never been any classified information breach. The Wall Street Journal countered with the fact that at no point did they report that the terabytes of data stolen was classified.
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If the Chinese don't stop lying; their lose all their teeth
What a joke. I personally know they are hacking our stuff. I also think it's a joke that they don't crack down on cyber crimes. Let someone in China go to a pro democracy site watch how fast they get jailed.
that's what SHE said!
What a joke. I personally know they are hacking our stuff. I also think it's a joke that they don't crack down on cyber crimes. Let someone in China go to a pro democracy site watch how fast they get jailed.
How do you "personally know". Wait, maybe you can't tell us because you are a spy!
Sorry China I don't believe anything you said after your blatant propaganda about the Tibetan people.
I believe that China hasn't gotten any classified info. Why would you not act on it if you had that info? Cuz they don't have any vital info.
Well what a nice toss up. Who to believe. The Chinese, US Government/Military, or the Media? Tough call. Well for me the Chinese are absolutely out of the question. As for the other two....who knows? I still think it was a ploy to get government funds and more overall control, but that's just me.
No country is going admit to spying, that's insane. It could be perceived as an act of aggression, or act of war.
I have a hard time believing them as China basically has us by the balls monetarily, they know it would be a bold move if we tried to dig deeper into this matter.
"We didn't hack your stuff" "I did not have sex with that woman" "No protesters were harmed by Chinese tanks in Tianenmen Square" "Tibet is a province of China by the free choice of the Tibetan people"
Yeah, I believe all of that. Come ON, China is the source of the gods only know how much spam for illegal products and the Chinese government is perfectly happy to let that go on as long as it's not Chinese addresses being spammed, Chinese cyberthugs steal passwords and install keyloggers with tacit government approval, why would anyone think the Chinese government would shy away from hacking foreign government systems to spy on them? Let's be realistic, the NSA would do that in a heartbeat, and the Chinese government isn't any more honest than the NSA.
as if CIA don't hack other country.
everybody does it..
that's all spys does.
even our allies spys on us.
OK... Weapon of Mass destruction, Tonkin incident, 911 is very suspicious, War In Iraq(i dont know why we are there beside Oil), Panama, Nixon, etc etc...
All Great countries are liars. China lies, USA lies, Russia lies, etc...
i'm pretty sure China is hacking into USA but im also sure USA is hacking China.
sure you don't
Freaking liars. Just like Iran claiming they want nuclear power for "energy." Western countries will always lose in situations like this because we'll never hire unofficial hackers to break into Russian or Chinese networks.
i'm pretty sure China is hacking into USA but im also sure USA is hacking China.
yeap, but who isn't
wikiwikiwhat,
How do you know they're not? How do you know they're not using that info in THEIR fighter jets as we speak? Unbelievable - just because China doesn't release a fighter jet that looks like the JSF the NEXT DAY after hacking the info means they didn't steal it? What kind of idiot are you?
That's like saying the Craig'slist killer didn't do it cause he's not wearing bloody clothes the next day.
Like has been said, no Contractor worth a damn would place classified information on the internet. You would need to actually go into Lockhead Martins R&D and physically put a disk in one of the restricted access computers to get that information.
I think this is just a ploy by the US government to get stricter Internet regulations. Seriously, what did they get anyway? How a jet engine works, you can google that info.
Next week in tomshardware news:
China releases the JSF 2 and insists that they did not hack the US because foreign ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu told the AFP. "We resolutely oppose and crackdown on cyber crimes, including hacking."
Why is it still necessary to connect the pentagon to the Internets?
as if CIA don't hack other country.everybody does it..that's all spys does.even our allies spys on us.
Exactly right. In fact Israel has been cited as spying on us more than one occassion, and they are supposed to be close with us.
Like has been said, no Contractor worth a damn would place classified information on the internet. You would need to actually go into Lockhead Martins R&D and physically put a disk in one of the restricted access computers to get that information.
I happen to work for LM, and have worked on many classified programs. All of the classified computer networks that I am aware of are connected to the internet in one way or another, though they are highly encrypted. The computers are conenected to their own "classified network" at the site, but are securely connected to the internet in order to communicate with another site somewhere else in the country. There are many LM sites developing the JSF and have to share information, which is done via the the classified network, if it is classified. Anyone with enough know how and resources (i.e. the Chinese government, amoung others) can attempt to gain access to these networks from the comfort of their own soil. It happens all the time. Thankfully, most of the time these attempts are unsuccessful. A step to make it harder to get classified information would be to put it on it's own dedicated network from point A to point B, but that is not practical because it would be prohibitly expensive.
And it is not as simple as putting a disk into the disk drive and stealing data. Classified computers usually have their external disk drives disabled in addition to the usb ports to prevent data theft. The only ones who could steal data from the computer from the inside are the IT folks with admin rights. But that is why everyone has to be throughly investigated and receive a clearance before having access to classified information.
What a one sided BS slant of an article. Jane (author) you are clueless and limited. China of course tries to hack into our computers - regardless of admitting it or not. BUT it's important to know that even our allies hack into us and it's idiotic to just think the Chinese and Russians are after us. DO YOU UNDERSTAND that national security considers all nations including allies as potential threats. France, England, Germany, Sweden, Japan, etc are always trying to dig a little deeper... ON the flip side we do the same thing to. China hacking into our system is like saying, the sun will be up tomorrow. Duh!
[citation][nom]falchard[/nom].I think this is just a ploy by the US government to get stricter Internet regulations. citation]
I think that the chinese did it to be honest but what you mentioned is also very probable... Wonder if the government thinks we have no common sense as to what could be happening... LOL
^^ sorry, i fail at quoting...
I think it would be great if the U.S. could invent a Virus that would attack an
entire country's network if they try to invade ours. A virus that would shut their
entire transportation and aviation system down. That would probably put a stop
to all this spying.
I think it would be great if the U.S. could invent a Virus that would attack anentire country's network if they try to invade ours. A virus that would shut theirentire transportation and aviation system down. That would probably put a stopto all this spying.
You don't think that's already been in play for the last decade?
heh...was probably facilitated by an inside person, someone who got paid to make the system insecure or gave info on how it could be hacked...and just because the ips trace back to China is no solid proof that it definately *was* China...
and don't be so sure that all that TARP money is going to the banks...its been a decade of swindles...
Sorry China I don't believe anything you said after your blatant propaganda about the Tibetan people.
So our government's word is more trustworthy? Not to mention our government doesn't give a fuck about Tibet other than using it as a pawn to against China.
wow...global politics at Tom's...
Evreyone knows that the best hackers don't get prosecuted...they get hired. This is true in every country. No one turns a blind eye to cyber crime, they either prosecute or cajole into harnessing that skill to their own benefit, sometimes both. I don't see anything wrong with that for any country. Take a gang-banging hoodlum who's good at sports in the US.... what do we do? pay them millions in the NBA or NFL. Nothing wrong with that either...just using a persons skills for the benefit of others....it's what makes the world go 'round.
as if CIA don't hack other country.everybody does it..that's all spys does.even our allies spys on us.
u are absolutely right my friend , everybody does spying , like boyfriend spy on girlfriend , girlfriend spy on boyfriend , dad and moms spy on son and daughter too
OK OK lets settle this! if they stolen the technology they will make a jet thats similar to the f-35 (which i assume they r talking about.) If they never make a similar fighter jet then they have not stolen it. But it would b pretty bold of China to make a similar jet after saying they do not hack.