Coming from Apple, one thing is sure... this computer will be overpriced.

lulz

Google AdSense ads, that lead to nowhere, why would Apple even create those ads? Is this a screwup on Google's part, were those ads not supposed to be released yet?

Maybe its all some marketing ploy to divert attention from table Apple is "NOT" *wink* making.

Do'h, I meant tablet. That said, I really don't think the Netherlands is going to scoop the rest of the world on any new Apple products.

That would appear to be the case of the typical Windows user...a recent report found: "... that Mac owners have more computers than the average consumer, and that extends over to other types of electronics, including iPods and navigation systems. Of those surveyed, 36 percent of computer owners had an iPod. The share among Mac owners, though, was 63 percent. Similarly, while 12 percent of computer-owning households have a digital SLR camera, the total is 32 percent for Mac homes.

"While Apple owners tend to own more computers and more electronics devices, there is also a high correlation among Apple owners and more affluent consumer households,” said Stephen Baker, vice president of industry analysis. "Thirty-six percent of Apple computer owners reported household incomes greater than $100,000, compared to 21 percent of all consumers.

He added: "With a higher household income, though, it's not a surprise that those consumers are making more electronics purchases. "The average Apple household owns 48 CE devices whereas the average computer household owns about 24. Apple household owners' actions and purchases can be used by the industry as leading indicators for hot new products and adoption."

Sucks not having money.

so the mac mini is getting a $124 price increase?

Those ultra thin don't appear to be overpriced. The latest Dell ultra thin is $1999.99. But knowing Apple they're going to find ways to price gouge consumers as in these prices might not be accurate. Also has history has shown, a desktop mac that is under a grand typically is riddled with a load of problems. But with the current hardware that is out one would hope that Apple could get it right because you can buy a pretty fast PC cheap these days and it won't lock up (unlike the old iMac I was forced to use in a computer lab in college which locked up just by looking at the screen.)

I was just looking at the so called "unibody" macbook a few days ago. What is unibody about it? I see removable panels on the bottom. It is not much different than a similary shaped Sony laptop computer (although ergonomically, the Sony is more functional because they aren't assenine about not including two mouse buttons on the touch pad). Plus with the way they designed the exhaust, I'm amazed the thing doesn't overheat constantly with that nvidia gpu inside. Still, it is a nice looking laptop. although the sony I was looking at the other day is about 1100 bucks with a 17" screen, Apple is never going to match that kind of deal. Kinda amazing too since usually Sony are overpriced as well.

lol @ the article on the bottom of this page "Apple is even ahead of the PC world—GeForce 9400M shipped first on Apple."

No. Apple pricing is weird. If it cost $499 in the US then it will also be $499 Eu...which is the equivalent of $723 US.

I configured both a Sony and Apple to almost the same specs...or as close as I could get. The Sony came in $100 less, but does not have DDR3 RAM. Given that I would go with a Unix kernel over Windows. The track pad of the Mac can be custom configured to have two mouse buttons...just go to Sys Pref and set it up. The beauty of the Mac track pad is that you don't physically have the 2 buttons. I have never had any issues with overheating with my 17" MBP.

Wow I'm glad I don't have to buy computers in Europe. WAY too expensive over there!

Wow I'm glad I don't have to buy computers in Europe, its WAY too expensive over there.

24" iMac, yummy. Lets get it under $1.5k Apple, come on, you can do it!

Where is the news? I don't see anything new in this article.

keep in mind, apple rejected google's app for a phone that would over ride the features of an iphone. probably just some political game/BS if you ask me

stats dont dictate an individuals life. i am in a household that makes 120k a year. we have 8 pcs, 1 dslr, 4 p&s', 6 ipods, 3 50" tvs, and a variety of other electronic crap. i still think macs are overpriced because THEY ARE. paying 1000+ bucks for merely mid-low end hardware (macbook im looking at you) is a rip off. i perfer power over pretty. macs lack in that aspect.

Surveys look at the norm...there are always outliers. If Mac's are just low performing pieces of art, then why do they consistently blow away the competition in Consumer Reports?

Because most users don't know nothing about hardware/pricing/performance... that's the norm...

There are no polls saying one way or another, and so your claim is moot. We can assume that higher income households are college educated and most are somewhat tech savvy...why else would they own so much hardware?

Regardless, I bet they know what double negatives are though!

You're quoting consumer reports as a technical journal - they are not as such. The things Apple computers are slated to "blow away" PCs in qualitative journals like that are in style, NOT performance.

It doesn't matter how much money you make. Macs are overpriced relative to their competition, which are PCs. People's lifestyles have nothing to do with it.

I agree with frozenlead...

Yoder54... are you serious?? I mean, it's OBVIOUS that the vast majority of people using computers now don't know much about hardware/performance/pricing!!! If you argue this you have a serious problem!!! No poll is needed here!! If you compare numbers you can find out that computer(hardware) enthusiasts are just a little piece of the pie that refers to people using computers!!!! Way too clear!!!

Well that is a dumb assumption. Considering 90+% of all corporate computers are Windows Based PC, it would be pretty dumb to assume that Mac are owned by affluent and PC are owned by "others". See that's the other thing Apple and Apple users doesn't get, they don't respect working class people. They think because they make something more expensive it is intrinsically better.

Here's a secret for you Yoder54, the vast majority of those who are responsible for for the care and feeding of most corporate networks do not make over 100K. Help-desk techs and the like. They make a good living, but it takes a while to hit the 6 figure plateau. But do you really think a some artsy fartsy marketing snob (aka Mac user) is going to know more about technology than... Windows Administrator, Help Desk tech, Cisco Engineer, VoIP Tech, hell the guy that comes in and installs your cable modem. Knowing how to get Itunes from your over priced mac to your over priced iPhone does not make you technically savvy. Considering Macs have to dumb down everything for the Appleheads, I say it makes them less technically savvy.

I have learned long ago that polls usually say what the pollsters want them to say. But then again, I am a Windows user, so I can think for myself.

Thats cuz mac users don't realize that they waste their money.

No, it doesn't mean I have a "serious problem," but merely am not familiar with an stats supporting such claims. Did I say "majority?" No. One does not have to be a computer enthusiasts to know what performance/pricing is all about, but that is does not really matter because what most consumers want is reliability...something that is lacking with most Windows systems.

Macs are for dummies. Power users use Windows. Tech savvy people use Linux. Of course higher income people have Macs because they can actually afford them, but that doesn't make them better. Which could also influence your Consumer Reports theory since they only survey people who buy Consumer Reports which is flawed research in itself. Macs continue to have minimal market share and it's actually been decreasing over the past year in the computer world. Of course having a lot of money, you'll buy more consumer electronics because you can afford them. It doesn't mean that you know how to use them fully otherwise you probably wouldn't be buying so much random crap. Who needs 4 iPods anyways. It's just the rich blowing money on random stuff because they can. And according to the latest data, ASUS is the leading computer maker in Customer Service, not Apple. I personally use Windows and Linux on my PC and set up a linux server in my house. My wife uses a Macbook Pro. We've had to service the Macbook 4 times in 3 years and had the whole thing rebuild internally of course a month after the extended warranty ended. My PC's have never failed me Windows or Linux based over the past 4 years and if I need to repair it, I could do it myself and for a lot less money.

Thats not apple, thats mainly the EU. I believe the EU has a value added tax at 17%, which is a maJor source of income. That tax is included in the price unlike sales tax is here. It seems very unfair to the average european, the truth is that while it cost more over their, its still within reason.

Your comments are almost comical.

You talk about outliers and yet you fail to recognize that Mac computers historically account for less than 10 percent of the U.S. market and less than 5 percent of the world market. (http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/02/mac-market-share.ars, half way down the page) That makes this entire study you reference a study on outliers! A group that is the minority (rich people) of minorities (Mac owners)is not going to be the leading indicator of anything! I mean I'd just love to see how that math works.

Besides that, you've made no mention of the distribution of PC vs Mac sales within various income ranges. I mean are you really suggesting to us that the 36% of Mac owners that make greater than $100k represent the majority of people in that income bracket? HA! Again, 36% of 10% is not a majority.

All you've really done is posted some facts about the 36% of the 10% of people that are both rich AND stupid enough to get ripped off by purchasing Apple hardware.

I agree as well with nekatreven...

Smells like apple fanboy spirit!!! No point in trying to convince this guys XD !!!!

A trackpad isn't more ergonomic cuz it has 2 physical buttons. The multitouch MBP's are 1 finger tap for reg click, 2 for right, 2 finger swipe to scroll up/down a page. 3 finger swipe left/right to go backward/forward in safari. etc.

I'd much rather have that trackpad

You can argue about reliability and cost all day long but for me, the bottom line is that I wont buy anything from apple on the principal of the way they run the company. Theyve somehow brainwashed people into thinking its somehow trendy and hip to overpay for a product only to be told you can only use it in ways the "mothership" deems fit. When I buy something I want to actually own it with no strings attached. Screw Apple.

see what I find funny is that they say the new Imac is thinner than ever and yet the current ones heat up like a bitch! They run very hot! I can't imagine how hot these new Imac's will run. Maybe Apple will have a new grenade to add to their arsenal!!