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Steam Banning Innocent MW2 Players, Maybe

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Modern Warfare 2 gamers cry innocent after Valve's Anti-Cheat software permanently kicks them out of the game.

Is Valve banning innocent gamers? That's what disgruntled Modern Warfare 2 gamers have been claiming over the past week. Apparently Valve's Anti-Cheat software (VAC)--built into Steam--is kicking out MW2 gamers for alleged cheats.

The problem is that these gamers say they weren’t cheating, and Valve's stance--past and present-- is that it will not revoke or discuss the reason behind the banning. This alone makes it difficult to determine the "cheat" that actually triggered the VAC.

Angry Modern Warfare 2 players can be found (and read) in four places: the Modern Warfare 2 forums, the Steam forums, an invite-only Steam Group, and even via a YouTube video showcasing the actual error and various rants of the forums.

"It's becoming apparent that a large number of people are being affected by VAC bans in relation to MW2," reads one post. "These VAC bans are not because we are cheaters, but because we have been a victim of bad software implantation, sourcing from either VAC or MW2 or a combination of the two. If we make ourselves heard, then hopefully Valve will investigate this issue and prevent others being affected."

Currently Valve hasn't issued a statement, however the sheer number of banned users should promote some kind of investigation. There's speculation that a conflict between Modern Warfare 2 and VAC exists, however forum representatives are saying that the issue can't be fixed. Those who were hit by the VAC will need to repurchase the game in order to play it again.

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    clivene09 , July 26, 2010 11:32 PM
    Sounds like a plan by Activision to make more money.
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    IronRyan21 , July 26, 2010 11:33 PM
    There might be a problem, but then again there is so many damn hackers on MW2
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  • 24 Hide
    clivene09 , July 26, 2010 11:32 PM
    Sounds like a plan by Activision to make more money.
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    dannyboy3210 , July 26, 2010 11:32 PM
    Jeez, either a bug or a P.I.T.A. new marketing scheme...
    I'm glad I stuck with MW1, it works fine, even with 3 people playing online together with one cd-code. ^^^

    Good to know though, because a friend of mine plays it.
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    IronRyan21 , July 26, 2010 11:33 PM
    There might be a problem, but then again there is so many damn hackers on MW2
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    AMW1011 , July 26, 2010 11:38 PM
    Happened to me awhile back, not sure why. I never played the game in the public, I only bought it to play private with some friends. I always wondered if it was because I changed it to a windowed game instead of full screen once because my PC was pumping out the music and MW2 wont allow you to minimize in a game lobby or game. Well if so, that's not against their policy, I checked.

    When it happened I just kind of laughed, I wasn't a big fan anyway. I liked the damage modifiers better than BFBC2, but the fact that every gun had absolutely no sway kind of pissed me off. Then again putting half a light machine gun magazine in someone charging at you only to die first by a rifle grenade in BFBC2 pisses me off too.
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    adikos , July 26, 2010 11:38 PM
    glad i uninstalled the game from my system. got sick and tired of playing with cheaters and getting thrown into server with weird hosts, weird mods (not sure how they get on there). I'm wondering if that is partially to blame.

    As for me, I'm done with that game and I'd wager its more MW2 than it is Valve... least i hope.
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    dannyboy3210 , July 26, 2010 11:38 PM
    Looks like there's good news too though...

    http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=8d06cdff9a429646977b6b4423fc108e&t=1380672

    (A thread showing that they have been unbanning people and giving them free copies of L4D2 for the troubles caused by the ban)
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    LATTEH , July 26, 2010 11:40 PM
    with a quick glance at the steam forums apperantly the vac bans have been lifted?
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    Strider-Hiryu_79 , July 26, 2010 11:55 PM
    This is Activision/Valve/Infinity Ward's way of saying "We are now charging (innocent legitimate players) for online multiplayer!" without them actually saying it in words.

    What did they say last time? "We are not charging for online multiplayer!" Yah right!

    R.I.P. Old IW. Call of duty games died with your dismissal.
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    duckmanx88 , July 26, 2010 11:57 PM
    its been fixed already. update your article.
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    retrac1324 , July 27, 2010 12:17 AM
    Had this happen to me. Received this email:

    http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7620/20100726171624.png
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    clivene09 , July 27, 2010 12:22 AM
    It appears that Valve did right by their customers, which does not surprise me in the least. I still bet that Kotick is pissed right now that he isn't going to be getting another $60 from MW2 players.
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    jimmysmitty , July 27, 2010 12:23 AM
    Strider-Hiryu_79This is Activision/Valve/Infinity Ward's way of saying "We are now charging (innocent legitimate players) for online multiplayer!" without them actually saying it in words.What did they say last time? "We are not charging for online multiplayer!" Yah right!R.I.P. Old IW. Call of duty games died with your dismissal.


    Um VALVe cannot charge for the online part of MW2. Only Activision/IW can.

    If anything the issue is on MW2s end. They probably didn't code it properly with VAC that causes a glitch to ban people for non hacking reasons. I have never seen anyone get VAC banned in any other game when not hacking.
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    Trialsking , July 27, 2010 12:24 AM
    retrac1324Had this happen to me. Received this email:http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7 [...] 171624.png



    L4D2 for you and to gift as a gift after their mistake....now thats why steam has my business
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    clivene09 , July 27, 2010 12:29 AM
    jimmysmittyUm VALVe cannot charge for the online part of MW2. Only Activision/IW can. If anything the issue is on MW2s end. They probably didn't code it properly with VAC that causes a glitch to ban people for non hacking reasons. I have never seen anyone get VAC banned in any other game when not hacking.

    According to retrac1324s email that he posted, it does appear that the problem was on Valves end honestly. It says that there was an issue with the updating of the ROM image which cause a mismatch with a DLL and the latent memory. Of course it could have still be a problem with IWs update, but Valve seems to be taking full responsibility based on that email. Either way, Valve comes in as very stand up and fair. I doubt, if left in Activisions court, it would have been handled the same.
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    chickenhoagie , July 27, 2010 12:42 AM
    this is an issue with all anti-cheat systems on the PC. i was permanently banned from BF2142 because they said I was "attempting to use a program that disables punkbuster." I resorted to everything i could do get unbanned, even threatened to sue them, as I was completely jipped of my $60. Ended up buying a new BF2142 and making a new account anyways..Pssh, punkbuster is worthless. if Valve wants to learn anything from that kind of mistake, they will uplift the bans and start fresh.
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    ern88 , July 27, 2010 12:57 AM
    Because there is a LARGE amount of people that cheat on MW2. Almost every match has one. That not alot of people considering how many copies they sold. G;ad the Hackers get the shitty end. They new better. I got the last crap in. (I don't cheat) lol
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    jsm6746 , July 27, 2010 1:06 AM
    who plays mw2 anymore? it's a mediocre shooter at best, and the online is rubbish... who cares...
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    halls , July 27, 2010 1:16 AM
    Good on Valve to issue a free copy of L4D2 to those affected, now that's classy.
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    eugenester , July 27, 2010 1:33 AM
    I doubt that most of these people are innocent players. Whenever I play MW2, I get r4ped by some wallhackers, aimbotters, anti-killstreak nukers every other effing game. So, in my opinion, good riddance.
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    bloodymaze , July 27, 2010 2:16 AM
    So anyone wanna gift me their free LFD2 copy? :)  :) 
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