Sooo... they've sold it to Oracle for the same price that IBM was offering. Weird.. I mean, if I was Sun I'd rather sell to IBM, after all they have far more in common than Sun and Oracle. I'm guessing a big part of Sun will just get thrown out in garbage once restructuring is finished, which wouldn't happen with IBM.

Ofcourse, I'm no analyst of any kind, just IMHO..

Oh, and a link missing under sources:
http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/018363
(from http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/index.htm )

I would thought this one is most important, as it's official after all

A thousand thank yous. I'll add them in now.

sun being sold to oracle? that might be good news! perhaps in a year or so we'll have a version of java that actually works as documented! oracles databases rarely misbehave after all ... and java always does ...

if this is the fact then Google, MS, and Yahoo and all other search engines should be found guilty cause we all know that you can punch in the name of the program/music/movie that you are looking for and add the word torrent to it and find it. so in essence they are all guilty for leading you to the end copywrited material.

^i think you got the wrong thread

Maybe they could invest some money into making their database a little more stable. I swear mines down once a week.

What does this mean for MySQL? With Oracle having it's own database, would this not be a conflict of interest? Would we have to start paying for licenses?

Oracle excels in DBMS but I was suffering when I used the Oracle development forum... it was so frustrating to use and it was so outdated. It was like a project made by some student and totally messed up.

I hope that they will enhance Java before using it for any reason. I hope that they will deliver a USABLE product that is USER-FRIENDLY and does what it supposed to do in terms of functionality.

Is there anyway to disable that fucking Dell ad that pops up every time I visit this site.

use kaspersky's anti banner feature - or download one of the many rigged lists for your hosts file to redirect the ad sites to localhost



I don't know the answer to that, but it got me thinking. Our management told us in december, that from this year we're going to use openoffice on the ~2000 pcs we have for customers.... openoffice is sun right? I wonder if that's still going to be free then?

WTF? Welp, with MySQL as their biggest competitor in databases it's not a bad move for them. They paid too much though ^_^. This way they can control MySQL, heck maybee they will even tone down the paid support so they can say "If you want a real database with real support you need to upgrade from MySQL. Look we're running a special on it!".

Openoffice is sponsored by Sun and Sun then ... ahh... repackages(?) it as Star Office for Solaris. The project may have to find a new sponsor. If MySQL wasn't already dead in the water, then I think this may be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Yes, Open Office is Sun. Along with Virtual Box, and a few other Open Source software. I don't really know what Oracle's track record with Open Source is, but this could present a problem for the linux community.

Okay - so if you're right, I don't have to worry having to remove it in 6 months again.



Oracle is one of the creators of realvnc - so they do know what opensource is - in general I don't like opensource though. I prefer software where someone claims responsibility when there's a problem.

Will Oracle sell parts of Sun to HP as many news stated before? Or will Oracle keep the Hardware business divisions?

IMO IBM didn't really have the need to buy Sun to improve its business. I see it just an opportunity for IBM to remove a smaller competitor from market.

Another player which has been silent is Microsoft. Maybe it's waiting to buy HP one day... :-)

The "open source" side of things will be completely up in the air until oracle makes official comment. And that comment could slice either direction.

In terms of what it could mean for their database...this could be a very very good match. Java makes great GUI front ends, esp considering it can load and run the same way regardless of OS. Building this into their software to make it a more complete and flexible package in terms of customizing end user interfaces would be a handy thing I'd imagine.

Oracle is positioning themselves nicely to be able to provide an end-to-end server side Web Application environment. Java + WebLogic + Oracle = Dominant

If Oracle plays their cards right with this move, then they could potentially be one of the strongest players out here. Oracle has such a high potential of growth now that they have control of MySQL. Despite Oracle being ok with open source, they're not going to let MySQL go on like it has. Hell, if I were them, I'd can MySQL all together.

I am guessing this will be the end of the line for Open Office.

crap this is terrible news. ibm would have been better for java. i guess oracle has been of late buying has beens and losers, like bea... focus on large companies, large business solutions and services.

Illustrating a fundamental lack of understanding of open source. Yes, Open Office will need to find another corporate sponsor if Oracle does not continue to fund its development should this deal go through.

Since Oracle currently markets DBMS software systems including RHEL OS with one-stop full service contracts for both the DB and OS, they DO have a vested interest in open source, though not so much on the desktop at this point. I suspect this means will now be able to take that same product and include the hardware.

I am just glad to see Oracle spend some of the mounds of cash they have been hording.

Oracle is developing the new BRFS file system for Linux. I don't think we should worry too much about the impact on OSS and Linux in general. There will be some changes for sure. I think OO will move to Ubuntu and Novell and we can see some good changes there. I hope that Oracle combines the strong features from MySQL and Oracle DB and produce superior DB framework. If I am MS I would worry about the future of the MS SQL.

You don't read any license agreements ever, don't you?

Ofcourse I don't - but that's not the point really.
The point is, that if the openoffice owners change, they might foget how to support their software - like the rest of the opensource industry. And thus the management might reconsider and once again change their minds.

they are not like microsoft which is sitting on a pile of cache, in fact they actually don't have all that much cache, sure they have 11.29B, but they owe 11.24B! Now they do have a nice net profit 5.74B and good profit margins 24.29%

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=ORCL

Microsoft has 20.30B in cash and only owes 2.00B, not that is nice pile of cash. Plus they have net provits of 17.23B and profit margin of 27.80%

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=MSFT

what oracle has been doing of late is buying losers and has beens, large companies like Sun and BEA.

I don't exactly know what Oracle is, or what that company does, but all I know is that it's helping my virtual stock simulator's Sun shares to jump in price, and I'm happy!

Oracle is a software developer primarily providing corporate level software. They're a bit like foxconn - if you're just a consumer, you won't know them.

JAVA and MySQL will be going bye-bye, that's my prediction. I like .NET?SQL much more anyhow, JAVA is ridiculously hard to learn in comparrision.

Regarding Open Office, nee Oracle Office, perhaps they can add a real db tool to that suite, the current module is an atrocity, a crime against technology!

Seriously, I think java and mysql are the crown jewels of the acquisition--not throwaways that everyone here seems to fretting about. Oracle has no low end db in its portfolio and mysql is the biggest in that space. If anything, I can see a greater integration and interoperability between the two; this could be a huge asset to customers.