Leaked AMD '09 CPU & Chipset Roadmap
Most of us are well aware of the 45nm processors that AMD is expected to roll out beginning this year. However, a lot of tech sites have been posting information that contradicts information found elsewhere.
Thanks to a credible source we have some new information regarding upcoming product launches from AMD. A lot of speculation and rumors have been floating around the scene as to what is coming next. Now we have some confirmed information thanks to inside sources with one of AMD’s close partners. Tom’s Hardware was able to see documentation that spills the beans about everything that is in store for all of you over the next coming months. So let us break it down for you.
Desktop Processors 2008
Planned Launches
| July 1, 2008 AMD Phenom™ X4 Quad-Core “Agena” – (DR-B2-AM2+) *LAUNCH COMPLETED* | |
| Phenom 9950 (2.6GHz / 140W) | Tray OPN#HD995ZFAJ4BGH; PIB OPN#HD995ZFGHBOX |
| Phenom 9350e (2.0GHz / 65W) | Tray OPN#HD9350OBJ4BGH; PIB OPN#HD9350BGHBOX |
| Phenom 9150e (1.6GHz / 65W) | Tray OPN#HD9350 |
| August 15, 2008 AMD Business Class *LAUNCH COMPLETED* | |
| Phenom X4 9750B (2.4GHz / 95W) | Tray OPN#HD975BWCJ4BGH; PIN OPN#HD975BWCGHBOX |
| Phenom X3 8750B (2.4GHz / 95W) | Tray OPN#HD875BWCJ3BGH; PIB OPN#HD875BWCGHBOX |
| Athlon X2 5600B (2.9GHz / 65W) | Tray OPN#ADO560BIAA5DO; no PIB available |
| Athlon X2 4850B (2.5GHz / 45W) | Tray OPN#ADH485BIAA5DO; PIB OPN#ADH485DOBOX |
| September 2, 2008 AMD Phenom™ X3 Triple-Core “Toliman” – (DR-B3-TC-AM2+) | |
| Phenom X3 8750 (2.5GHz / 95W)* | Tray OPN#HD875ZWCJ3BGH; PIB OPN#HD875ZWCGHBOX |
| Phenom X3 8550 (2.2GHz / 95W) | Tray OPN#HD8550WCJ3BGH; PIB OPN#HD8550WCGHBOX |
| Phenom X3 8450e (2.1GHz / 65W) | Tray OPN#HD8450OBJ4BGH; PIB OPN#HD8450OBGHBOX |
| Phenom X3 8250e (1.9GHz / 65W) | Tray OPN#HD8250OBJ4BGH; PIB OPN#HD8250OBGHBOX |
| September 2, 2008 AMD Athlon™ X2 Dual-Core – “Kuma” – (DR-B3-DC-AM2+) | |
| Athlon X2 6500 (2.3GHz / 95W)* | Tray OPN#AD6500WCJ2BGH; PIB OPN#AD6500BGHBOX |
| October 8, 2008 AMD Athlon™ X2 Dual-Core – “Brisbane” – (BH-G2-AM2) | |
| Athlon X2 5050e (2.6GHz / 45W) | Tray OPN#ADH5050IAA5DO; no PIB available |
| October 8, 2008 AMD Phenom™ X3 Triple-Core – “Toliman” – (DR-B3-AM2+) | |
| Phenom X3 8850 (2.5GHz / 95W) | Tray OPN#HD8550WCJ3BGH; PIB OPN#HD8850BGHBOX |
| November 2008 AMD Ultra-Value Client (UVC) Solutions *DIRECT OEM ONLY* | |
| AMD Athlon™ Processor – “Lima” - (BH-G2-AM2) | |
| Athlon 2650e (1.6GHz / 15W) | Tray OPN#ADG2650IAV3DP; PIB OPN#ADG2650DPBOX |
| AMD Athlon™ X2 Processor – “Brisbane” – (BH-G2-AM2) | |
| Athlon X2 3250e (1.5GHz / 22W) | Tray OPN#ADJ3250IAV5DO; PIB OPN#ADJ3250HDOBOX |
| December 2008 AMD Phenom™ X3 Triple-Core – “Toliman” – (DR-B3-AM2+) | |
| Phenom X3 8850* (2.5GHz / 95W) | Tray OPN#HD885ZWCJ3BGH; PIB OPN#HD885ZWCGHBOX |
| December 2008 AMD Phenom™ TBD Quad-Core – “Deneb” – (RB-C2-AM2+) *EMBARGOED Until Jan 09* | |
| Phenom X4 TBD (3.0GHz / 125W) | No OPN or PIB available |
| Phenom X4 TBD (2.8GHz / 125W) | No OPN or PIB available |
Performance Chipsets
Discrete & IGP
| 2007 – Half to Third Quarter | |
| AMD 790FX | RD790 – HT3 2x16 or 4x8 – PCIe Gen2 – Crossfire X |
| AMD 790X | RD780 – HT3 2x8 – PCIe Gen 2 – Crossfire X |
| AMD 770 | RX780 – HT3 1x16 – PCIe Gen 2 |
| SB600 | 4 SATA 3Gb – RAID 0,1,10 – 10 USB Ports |
| 2008 – Half to Third Quarter | |
| AMD 790GX | RS780D – DX10 – HT3 – 2x8 – PCIe Gen 2 – Avivo HD |
| SB700/710 | 6 SATA 3Gb – RAID 0,1,10 – 12+2 USB Ports |
| SB750 | 6 SATA 3Gb – RAID 0,1,5,10 – 12+2 USB Ports + Clock Calibration |
| 2009 – Half to Third Quarter | |
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| RD890/RD790+ - HT3 – Enhanced CX support |
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| RS880D/RS780D+ - HT3 – Faster Clocks – Enhanced CX support |
| SB8xx | SB750+ GB MAC – AHCI 1.2 – SATA 6Gb – Clock Generator – 4 x PCIe Gen 2 |
Mainstream / Value Chipsets
IGP
| 2007 First Quarter to Second Half | |
| RS690 | DX9 – HT1 – PCIe Gen 1 – Avivo |
| RS690C | DX9 – HT1 – PCIe Gen 1 – Avivo |
| SB600 | 4 SATA 3Gb – RAID 0,1,10 – 10 USB Ports |
| 2008 First Quarter to Second Half | |
| RS780 | DX10 – HT3 – PCIe Gen 2 – Avivo HD |
| RS780C | DX10 – HT3 – PCIe Gen 2 – Avivo |
| RS740 | DX9 – HT1 – PCIe Gen 1 – Avivo |
| SB700 | 6 SATA 3Gb – RAID 0,1,10 – 12+2 USB Ports – HyperFlash 1.0 |
| 2009 First Quarter to Fourth Quarter | |
| RS880 | RS780+ - Faster Clocks – Power Savings – Enhanced CX Support |
| RS880C | RS780C+ - Faster Clocks – Power Savings – Enhanced CX Support |
| RS780L | DX10 – HT3 – PCIe Gen 2 |
| SB8xx | SB710+ - Gb MAC – AHCI 1.2 – SATA 6Gb – Clock Generator – 4 x PCIe Gen 2 |
According to sources the RS880 chipset will be pin compatible with AMD 780G and fits within the existing 780G thermal envelope. Uses a 55nm process technology the same as RS780. RS880 will have enhanced 3D performance and capabilities and a lower TDP comparable to 780G. The current internal scheduling is that samples will be rolled out this coming November and production ramp up will commence in early March 2009.
Now onto the AM3 platform definition. Socket AM3 is designed to exclude AM2 and AM2+ parts – has DDR3-1333 memory support. Thermal monitoring is moving over entirely to Thermal Sense Interface (TSI) monitoring – no more Diode based monitoring. Phasing out of Diode based monitoring has already begun with current products being pressed and net yet shipped. PCI VR control is also scheduled to be phased out for all future AM3 processors.
AMD Processor / Chipset Launch Plan (FINAL) 2009
| JAN | FEB | MAR | APR | MAY | JUN | JLY | AUG | SEP | OCT |
| “Deneb” | “Deneb” | “Heka” | RS880G | “Regor” |
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| “Propus” | “Rana” |
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Two Deneb 45nm 125W AM2+/DDR2 processors will launch in January 2009. DVTs will be available in October. 125W AM3/DDR2 EVT samples are expected to be available in August and there will be no AM2+/DDR2 EVT samples available at all.
The AM2+/DDR2 Deneb 45nm processors have been specified to support only dual-plane motherboards. These processors will exceed current specifications when paired with a single-plane board. AMD is also recommends that ODMs do NOT support these two AM2+/DDR2 Deneb parts on any single-plane boards.
Subsequent Deneb 45nm AM3 based processors are not expected to carry these same limitations.
AMDs current internal launch plan is stating that AM2+/DDR2 125W BXS is to launch January 8, 2009 @ CES – AM3/DDR3 95W BXS to launch sometime in February 2009 – AM3/DDR3 125W BXS to launch March 3, 2009 @ CeBIT.
We last broke news about AMD’s Phenom FX processor, which has an expected release date in early 2009. This will be the first time that AMD has used the FX moniker in quite some time. Enthusiasts are hoping for AMD to differentiate itself, but more than likely, the FX release will introduce slightly higher clock frequencies and larger caches.
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I thought AM3 cpus is suppose to be able to work with AM2+ boards
"introduce slightly higher cock frequencies and larger caches."
Interesting information...
It's saying that you can't use AM2/AM2+ CPUs on AM3 boards. It didn't say that AM3 CPUs can't be used on AM2 boards so we'll have to wait and see on that.
I wanna see that 3.0 GHz phenom to upgrade from my 5000X2
"introduce slightly higher cock frequencies and larger caches."Interesting information...
Yeah I'm kind of afraid of how "powerful" these things will be
You will be able to use AM3 processors on AM2 boards, but not the other way around.
/ Tuan
"The AM2+/DDR2 Deneb 45nm processors have been specified to support only dual-plane motherboards. These processors will exceed current specifications when paired with a single-plane board."
But how can we tell if a board is single-plane or dual-plane?
Cool I hope to upgrade with a AM2+ 3 Ghz Phenom X4 TBD (Deneb).
I think that dual plane motherboards are the ones that currently will take the high TDP 125 watt or higher Phenom X4 9850 BE's or the 9950BE's.
Looks good, now if the proposed IPC is close to Penryn, this is very welcome news indeed
so funny that this is coming out at the same time as the article about the Intel guy secretly working for AMD
mmmm, makes you wonder
I thought the higher wattage processors was based on the number of phases in the power circuitry and the number of planes had to do with which portions of the processor had independent control over its own power. ie. could shut down certain portions of the cpu when not in use.
"The AM2+/DDR2 Deneb 45nm processors have been specified to support only dual-plane motherboards. These processors will exceed current specifications when paired with a single-plane board."But how can we tell if a board is single-plane or dual-plane?
Simple: AM2+ is dual-plane. Regular AM2 is not.
Thanks Snarfies1!!! If it's that simple-then it's just that easy.
"introduce slightly higher cock frequencies and larger caches."Interesting information...
Don't forget the law of diminishing returns.
so I've been thinking. The last time AMD releases an FX series processor was at the end of the X2's reign. (I know, it wasn't much of a "reign"). But, the FX's were known for OC'ing, etc. We all know that the current Phenoms don't OC well , and subsequently, AMD did not release the FX series. Could this mean that AMD has a good OC'ing chip on their hands, or are they just releasing one to release it? If AMD is releasing it because it has a high starting clock, and can manage a large overclock, I'm in. Ill take one.
So I have to wait at least until June 09 to get a complete AMD system.
Feb - “Deneb” Quad-Core 6MB Shared L3 AM3
Jun - RS880G
And I hope I don't have to wait till SB850 to overclock the processor
On Expreview.com they have RD890 and RS880D with SB750 for the Performance chipset for AM3 motherboards,that could be out in March at CeBIT when they will bring out the DDR3 125W Deneb CPU chip, that from Vrzone. com. Expreview.com they have RS880G on the SB710 come little later on same as Tom'hardware time frame for AM3. Where AM3 motherboards will add SB8xx come round 3rd Quarter of 09, about year after SB750.
Dual plane motherboard? What does that mean?
On Expreview.com they have RD890 and RS880D with SB750 for the Performance chipset for AM3 motherboards,that could be out in March at CeBIT when they will bring out the DDR3 125W Deneb CPU chip, that from Vrzone. com. Expreview.com they have RS880G on the SB710 come little later on same as Tom'hardware time frame for AM3. Where AM3 motherboards will add SB8xx come round 3rd Quarter of 09, about year after SB750.
So how did the 45nm overclock with a SB750?
I want to know the review of Athlon X2 6500. googling and just found those 2 review. One is simulation only. And the other one just give graphic bar benchmark. No explaination at all.
Hopefully Tom's Hardware will test this proc.
Just curious how this Phenom based dual core perform compare with AthlonX2 architecture. Since it included SSE4A. and with all 2MB L3 cache which may be an advantage for this proc.
Dual plane motherboard? What does that mean?
That means it's so fat, slow and heavy, it takes a couple Boeing 747's to launch
j/k
Dual plane motherboard? What does that mean?
The board can send different voltages to different parts of the CPU to shut parts of it down at idle, I think.
They're probably speaking of the ground plane on the PCB. My guess is they're splitting the power bus for the reason FSXFan stated, or they're just using it to deliver more power. It's not really anything fancy.
The lack of dual cores until H2'09 is troubling. The original K10 dual core (65nm) was scheduled for Dec'07 (way back when prior to the Sept07 K10 launch) - then it was Q2'08... now H2'09?
It makes me wonder if K10 is not much better than K8 when it comes to dual cores. This is still the bread and butter of the desktop market and the lack of urgency in getting dual core K10's out makes me wonder if they will be any significantly better than K8's. Don't get me wrong, K10 has some nice scaling and power features which are great for servers... but where are the K10 dual cores?
I just wanna know when they are going to release a worthy replacement for my 6000+.
Granted, I already have an 3.6GHz E8400 and don't plan to upgrade for a good long time.... but I'm kinda excited to see what the X2 6500+ looks like!
Granted, I already have an 3.6GHz E8400 and don't plan to upgrade for a good long time.... but I'm kinda excited to see what the X2 6500+ looks like!
What better way to find out than down clock your E8400 to 2.1 GHz and test it yourself.
I just wanna know when they are going to release a worthy replacement for my 6000+.
Intel has many to choose from. Why wait until q4 of 2010.
at this point, i can't see a worthy, affordable, and readily available upgrade for AMD until Q3 2009
AM3 CPUs will work with AM2 boards. But not the other way round (AM2 CPUs + AM3 boards). That should keep most people happy
It looks like AMD has a boring roadmap...
I should switch to the dark side.