AMD Piledriver Cores to Use Energy Recovery Tech

But will it best a 2500k?

Now if only AMD could get Drag Reduction System (DRS) going and up their instructions-per-cycle we could have a great race!

amd is making bold claims about power efficiency again.
hopefully they'll do it right this time and not blame on everything else like they did with bulldozer.

Looks promising. but we want to see to believe.

Lets run some tests, shall we!

Benchmarks will say it all

Bulldozer can have eight cores.

Will the HD4K best the iGPU inside Trinity?

Trade offs mate, trade offs. Trinity is not aimed to the mid/high segments... At least, they should not be

Cheers!

I'm not sure they need trade offs. Bulldozer is fine as it is for the most of us. They just need to lower TDP and stuck it in Trinity.

First beat Intel in performance, then you can get to do power optimization :]

optimizing power consumption goes hand in hand with performance, If you use so much power that heat goes through the roof to get that performance, then it's not practical. Lower power consumption (lower heat) means higher clocks and more room to improve performance.

I like what you did there

Will it run crysis?

I don't care what you do AMD, just get to being on par in performance with Sandy Bridge at this point. Ivy is just a die shrink so no need to worry, you should probably also worry about Haswell.

This is one of the most notable changes to come out for Piledriver (publicly) in a while.

Now if they can fix the cache latencies.

Their mobile APUs are actually already fairly power efficient. I hope this trend continues and extends a bit into desktop mid-range territory.

actually they are aimed at mid-segments

Fine, I'll smash your fancy i5 2500k with my dual Netburst Xeon 5080 bathed in liquid helium and clocked at 8 GHz. What now?

I'm sure your power bill would hate you and it's not healthy to compete against one self (intel vs intel)

I never would have thought of that idea, recapturing power like that.

But if those processors have coil whine count me out.

As usual, Intel advertising and marketing practices from 10 years ago will somehow stifle AMD's breakneck innovation. Because as Tom's readership knows, AMD's chips would be perfect if Dell hadn't sold Intel processors.

Anything AMD makes as it pertains to the CPU market is aimed the mid-range value market from here on out.

Any APU benchmark is horrid compared to even an i3. Piledriver as with Bulldozer won't even compete well with intel's midrange chips.

I thought AMD just made Graphic cards. Are their Processors any good??? ** Sarcasm***

Maybe, saving power they may be able to reach more Ghz and pull all cores beyond 4Ghz (or even more) wich can make it more competitive against intel. plus, if they improve the ipc, you gonna get a real fast cpu to really leave behind phenom.

by now, we have to wait and see.. at the end, all this translates in more power for less money for us!

I still dont see why people whine and complain about how Bulldozer was awful. If you want to start Intel fanfag-raging go ahead. If you guys havent noticed, not all PC gamers have 1500$+ rigs. I WISH I could have something as epic as Bulldozer in my laptop, but my current CPU (AMD Phenom X4 N950 @ 2.1 ghz) doesnt get maxed out in any game I have, and Ive got BF3, Anno 2070 and many others. I see no reason why you would spend the 80-110$ more on an i5 2500K than on a Zambezi , which my friend has and hasnt had a single problem. GO AMD!!! Lets hope for a good year from AMD.

The problem is people tend to focus on what a CPU can do instead of what a CPU can do for you. Benchmarks mean little to most consumers because they will never play the most demanding games or render the most demanding graphics etc... Most consumers couldn't tell the diff between an Athlon X2 and a Core i7, because most consumers don't need that much power to tell the diff, but what most consumers do need is a CPU that is conservative on power. As more and more mobile device are used more and more consumers will look at the most important benchmark to them and that's power consumption which will be the key to technology going forward and not so much how fas an CPU can render and object or how many fps an CPU can handle. This is the Reason why Llano is a success and this will be the reason why Trinity will be even a bigger sucess. Times are changing We've gone from CPU power to now how much can a CPU conserve power.

The biggest problem people fail to realize, is not that it's bad because it doesn't compete with sandy bridge cpu's, it's that it is out performed more often than not be it's former generation, phenom ii.

it only fell behind the phenom II because of single core applications... which is honestly BS because for at least 5 years we have had dual core as a standard, correct? why are things still being made for single core only?

Most people who use a computer will believe what they are told by knowledgeable people. From AMD themselves down to knowledgeable enthusiasts like us down to those who just use a computer for work, many of us know that the Bulldozer architecture was a disappointment. I wish I knew all the reasons for this, mostly I wish I knew whether the architecture itself is faulty or more so the manufacturing process.

The important thing to come to realize is that the first production of that architecture is behind us. It seems to me that perhaps AMD is continuing to work on it. I hope so. Because what I do not want is to come visit Tom's Hardware and see no mention of AMD because there is no AMD.

It says at the end of the article that AMD is aiming for 5-10% efficiency uptick with piledriver. I don't think that is a particularly bold claim, imbedded tech aside. I can't say much about how the tech works, but I can't see 5-10% as a particulary exagerrated claim. Yes we will need to see how it actually pans out. Assuming the technology works, the target 5-10% TDP drop (which would still have the 8-core Zambezis at over 100W) could be a realtively conservative estimate.