Power Usage And Temperature Benchmarks
We ran our power benchmarks on the Asus M4A785TD-V EVO motherboard in order to keep the focus on CPU power instead of graphics card consumption. It is notable that the newest 0410 BIOS on this board (that supports the Phenom II X4 965) has broken C1E support, so we couldn't test it with this feature enabled.
Keep in mind that there is only a 15 watt difference between the 140W TDP of the original Phenom II X4 965 and the 125W TDP of the new revision, so we're not expecting any miracles here:
We're only seeing a 10W difference under load here, and an insignificant two watts at idle. That figures, because the 140W TDP of the original Phenom II X4 965 is probably a little pessimistic. In any case, the 125W TDP of the new revision doesn't offer much of a real-world advantage. The most significant aspect of the lower TDP is likely the fact that some board manufacturers can now officially support it on 125W models if they want to.
Now let's look at idle and load temperatures:
Not much of a difference to see here; certainly nothing to write home about.
its a bigger change than say the step from C0 to D0 with the 1366 I7's
Its not like im a normal AMD fanboy, i just dont like monopolistisk tendenses, so as a builder i do have to know when i can tell u get the best rig with AMD or do u have to go to Intel.
I still hope Toms and preferabel Cleave comes with a review when a cpu bottelneck 5850 and 5870 at best grapic settings. Hilbert shows us that the AThlon II 435 do bottelneck a 5870, but since 5850 is round 15% slower than 5870, even the athlII 435 at stock should be close to take advantage of a radeon 5850.
Intels R&d last yr was as big as AMDs total sale, take in account that thay also fight Nvidia, so then u maybe understand why AMD is not best. If AMD drops farther down, what are we nerds left with, the answear should be clear to anyone that can think, we are left with only Intel.
I do build riggs, guess round 100 over 18 yr, for friends and stuff, i do refuse to build Intel riggs, why ?, becouse of the marked situation, we lost cyris as a cpu vendor, if we loose AMD to, then my fellow nerds, we are in troubel. I do however never recomend an AMD built if Intel is clearly supperiour, therefor we builder need to know the limits. AS toms has stated in severual test, AMD is good at budget riggs, but how far up can an Athl II 435, an Phii 720 suppurt a grapfic card, well even the phii955 is dirt cheap here.
Still, that doesn't solve my issue as another potential builder: since AMD and Intel now make equally well performing CPU's (for gaming purposes, that is), is there a reason not to pick the cheaper AMD? Higher power consumption, or less well performing motherboards, or something along these lines?
Try harder next time.
for speculation , in apps/games that really use 4 cores (x264/gta4), it would not be up to phenom II X4's and even Phenom II X3's .
in apps/games that dont use more than two cores , it would take out every amd offering . although it would be "in line' upgrade for anyone with a core 2 duo , quads are getting more and more important . i also hope that the rumors of very high clock speeds/practical everyday use overclockability are true . lets all wait now !