New Xbox 360 Priced at £150 in the UK

11018920 said:

11018577 said:

You have to keep in mind, tax is included in all UK prices, we don't pay taxes seperately, we pay em when we buy stuff :p

What do you mean you don't pay taxes separately? You have a horrible income tax in addition to the value added tax you are speaking of.

I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say. Are you trying to say the VAT has to be included in the listed price?

The US has no VAT and some states don't have any sales tax at all, but the reason everything is more expensive over there isn't just because you have high taxes. I was just reading a story on this site talking about how apple is being forced to offer a two year wwarranty for countries in the EU. Absurd regulations that stifle the free market also drastically impact your prices.

I don't know how you can stand such a large government over there. It's bad enough in the US, but no where near what you guys must suffer.

Erm how exactly does making a company have to stand by its rather expensive products for at least 2-3 years in terms of them continuing to function a bad thing and stifling the free market?

I would rather pay a fraction more from my expensive toy knowing its covered for 2-3 years automatically without having to then pay on top for warranty or Apple Care.

Products should last for more than 12 months, especially those that cost in the realms of several hundred to thousands of £/$.

If a mandatory warranty makes a company take extra care in the production of its goods then I'm all for it. Otherwise its just more landfill. Who wants crap that just lasts 12 months?

How on earth it is that some people feel 'consumer rights' are a bad thing I really don't know. Too much corporate agenda kool-aid I suppose.

and for 200 dollars more you can get a much more powerful ps4....

I wonder if this one will have the red ring of death also.

11019367 said:

what he means is its taxes included, so out the door you pay £149 taxes included

in the states its 199 plus %7 taxes

same in my country, its taxes included the price on the counter thats how much you pay out the door

Just to clarify, the taxes added on to the price listed isn't a U.S. tax, it's a state and local tax, and it varies. I'm not sure how low it goes these days, I would say 7% is pretty low. Here near Dallas, TX it's 8.25%. I've seen it over 12% at a resort town in Colorado - and that was 20+ years ago, no telling what it is now! So, yeah, state and local taxes alone can amount to something close to VAT in some areas of the U.S.

Of course you can often avoid state and local taxes by buying through a company that is located in another state (like through the internet). States have no jurisdiction over interstate business, so can't charge tax unless the item you buy is form a business with a presence in your state. Shipping costs might make that pointless, though, just like a country that isn't part of the EU buying from a country that is - we don't pay the VAT, so get an item at 15% less that it is listed for, but we still have to pay shipping and any import taxes that apply. :)

@steelcity1981 uh the ps4 will just have like 15 games that are $59.95 each and you have to wait 6 months even for that. So 10 games + console = $1,000 vs. a cheap XB360 and a load of used games you can get for $5. Maybe in a couple of years the math will be different but c'mon dude be realistic, there is a place for low cost entertainment.

11019387 said:

11018920 said:

11018577 said:

You have to keep in mind, tax is included in all UK prices, we don't pay taxes seperately, we pay em when we buy stuff :p

What do you mean you don't pay taxes separately? You have a horrible income tax in addition to the value added tax you are speaking of.

I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say. Are you trying to say the VAT has to be included in the listed price?

The US has no VAT and some states don't have any sales tax at all, but the reason everything is more expensive over there isn't just because you have high taxes. I was just reading a story on this site talking about how apple is being forced to offer a two year wwarranty for countries in the EU. Absurd regulations that stifle the free market also drastically impact your prices.

I don't know how you can stand such a large government over there. It's bad enough in the US, but no where near what you guys must suffer.

Erm how exactly does making a company have to stand by its rather expensive products for at least 2-3 years in terms of them continuing to function a bad thing and stifling the free market?

I would rather pay a fraction more from my expensive toy knowing its covered for 2-3 years automatically without having to then pay on top for warranty or Apple Care.

Products should last for more than 12 months, especially those that cost in the realms of several hundred to thousands of £/$.

If a mandatory warranty makes a company take extra care in the production of its goods then I'm all for it. Otherwise its just more landfill. Who wants crap that just lasts 12 months?

How on earth it is that some people feel 'consumer rights' are a bad thing I really don't know. Too much corporate agenda kool-aid I suppose.

Taking choice away from the consumer is never good.

In the US you can buy an extended warranty if you want one. The people who don't want to pay for that longer warranty aren't forced to. Companies aren't in business to provide jobs or provide a service to the community. They are in business to make money. Every time the government forces a business to do something, the consumer pays for it.

Maybe if the government always made the right decisions, maybe government intervention would be a good thing. But they're not. They are a bunch of bungling idiots with no understanding of business or the products they are regulating. They can't do anything right.

The free market's survival of the fittest might anger the consumer from time to time, but it ultimately gives the consumer the largest voice. They can vote with their pocketbook. It's the ultimate form of democracy.