Former AMD Exec: Even I Wouldn't Buy AMD
Intel says even AMD wouldn't buy AMD CPUs five years ago.
Despite a settlement late last year that saw Intel pay AMD $1.25 billion in damages, the Federal Trade Commission is still pursuing a case against Intel regarding anti-competitive business practices.
In a recent filing to the FTC Intel has cited a former AMD executive who admitted that if it wasn't for company loyalty, he "would never buy AMD" when it came to purchasing a personal system.
CNet reports Intel cites a 2004 internal AMD communication from former AMD Executive Vice President Henri Richard, the company's then-highest-ranking sales executive who said, "If you look at it with an objective set of eyes, you would never buy AMD. I certainly would never buy AMD for a personal system, if I wasn't working here."
Intel spokesman Chuck Mulloy told CNet News that the company got the internal AMD communication through the discovery process and that over time, "more and more [of] this kind of information will be available in the case."
Intel filed the papers on December 31, 20 days after it paid AMD the $1.25 billion in damages that the two settled on in November.
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I wish we knew the reason he wouldnt buy AMD...
Probably because hes an overpaid prick that can afford premium intel systems?
Wth... back then AMD CPUs were better...
He is probably saying this so he can get hired by Intel, or Intel already paid him to say it.
Former pissed off exec should be the title.. He doesn't say why he would not purchase amd? So there for he has no point..
And that is exactly why he should NOT be working for AMD. He does not seem to know AMD's products very well with such a statement.
Like a sales exec would really know anything about, well, anything. Sales folk are always the same....
That is all sorts of wrong. For us folks on a very tight shoestring budget, who want a relatively powerful desktop with quad core, that $99 AMD X4 620 CPU seems to fit the bill.
I think he doesn't know what he is talking about. Especially as a sales exec.
AMD has always been marketed as a value alternative to Intel. Not paying Intel's premium price while being a processor that is more than capable of doing what the average consumer does with their computer.
Intel charges customers more for products that are faster than AMD in most cases but the average customer doesn't need to spend that much extra when an AMD would do the same work at a lesser price (often $100 less than a comparable unit). Take it from someone who sells computers for a living, given the choice customers take the AMD's because it's cheaper.
And don't say I am an AMD fanboi because almost every processor I own is Intel.
I don't buy it. 5 yrs ago AMD's Socket939 Athlon 64 was killing Intel.
Wait, aren't executives generally unknowledgeable overpaid douchebags, who are only in the position they're in because of family and political connection. Seems like that's how the large American companies are run today.
I have owned both Intel and AMD and have never once received a bad Intel CPU, I have however had two bad Athlons... I did continue to purchase AMD though, but with diminished confidence.
How can you tell when an Executive Vice President/highest-ranking sales executive is lying?
Wth... back then AMD CPUs were better...
+9999
When the A64's where out, they kicked some ass.
The key word is "former" exec. He sure loved his job when AMD showed him love with bonuses but then he didn't produced so AMD axed him and now he has an axe of his own to grind. I guess the bridges were already burnt so he has nothing to lose from AMD but why would Intel hire him knowing he is only loyal to this week's meal ticket?
How can you tell when an Executive Vice President/highest-ranking sales executive is lying?
Isn't that usually every time they speak or write something?
If memory serves me correctly, those were the days when AMD had the Athlon64 vs various P4s with HT.
That was really the time TO buy an AMD cpu over an Intel cpu.
This guy is a complete idiot IMO, probably some dumb executive with no tech knowledge.
@djackson_dba: they open their mouths...
2004 is when that was said, that would make a bit more sense in 2006-now ish but 2004 amd had a great line up against the Pentium 4 and D crap.
imo he said it cuz intel is a bigger better company and he wanted to get hired there, after all he was the top sales man lol =p.
If you look at the comment, I think it's in regards to their marketing.
I certainly would never buy AMD for a personal system, if I wasn't working here
I take this as, "I wouldn't buy AMD because I wouldn't know better"
It is sad that people go so low when it comes to monney ... how can you say you wouldn`t buy the better product at that time ... i mean ok ... if you`re not a tech geek you don`t know wich one is better but a guy like him to make that statement ... he`s a fukin imbecil.
I smell disgruntled ex-CEO. In fact, I might even smell a hint of bribe...
In that time period, AMD was far superior. It's only since Nehalem that Intel regained the performance crown (okay, the highest end Core2duo/quads were better, but price/performance AMD still had the crown in that era).
I can't afford Intel, or accompanying motherboard/RAM upgrades that are mandatory for higher end Intel chips. I buy AMD because i already have AM2, and I won't be required to upgrade for a while. He can afford Intel chips because AMD pays the bills
OK... Intel proved that Henri Richard is a stupid man who does not know his own job. So what. Can they prove that Pentium 4 processors where better than AMD's A64s at that period? I think not.
If I get it right, Henri Richard said that in 2004 when he was still working for AMD! That's a reason to be fired right there. Anyway, I'm sure there are plenty of people at Intel who think the same about their own products. The difference here is that this went public.
Yep, AMD was much better than Intel products in every way 5 years ago. They were faster, cooler, used less power, and cheaper.
The tables have flipped now, however.
Sounds like we have a confused and bitter former employee who wants revenge. Sorry Dude nobody is
going to listen to you, look on the bright side you can always go work for Mc Donnalds, you can help them process their food...................
I don't get why Intel is being prosecuted over the AMD stuff. They paid them $1.25 billion and AMD is satisfied with that. They settled. Why are we wasting tax dollars pursuing this?
I've owned both AMD and Intel processors and in general Intel processors are better, but they also cost more. I've had a couple of AMD systems that for whatever reason would not run certain apps. Almost all would run fine. Just a handful that wouldn't.
1 opinion out of a billion. Give me a break. Both systems have ups and downs. In ALL aspects. I use an Intel based system.. Q6600 and I have considered purchasing a quad core Phenom chip just to be able to o/c it to 4ghz. I hate this type of crap.
I'm guessing we have a prime example of the Peter Principle.
Henri Richard, sounds like you did a crappy job of promoting AMD; a retail electronics sales associate would most likely have done a better job.
Intel -- collecting internal communication from competitors; how exactly is this supposed to help with your case with the FTC?
AMD chips made sense economically 5 or more years ago. We bought Win98 machines for our office about 9 years ago, for less than intel, and they were very fast. As things evolved we upgraded to AMD machines with XP, they weren't so fast. 5 years ago or 9 years ago I WOULD have purchased (and DID purchase) AMD, but today I would NOT buy one. The last AMD machines that we bought were incredibly slow. I'm not sure if something has changed in Windows that AMD hasn't kept up with or what.
Obviously the response from the AMD exec. was influenced by something other than price and performance.
Hey the P4's werent all bad. My Northwood 2.6 HT was an ass kicker. Its still running today and running very well. It helps to be running linux on it but you get the point.