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Apple, Dell, HP Comment on Foxconn Suicides

By - Source: Tom's Hardware US | B 23 comments

A lot of computer companies outsource work to Foxconn and given the recent news reports regarding the assembly plant, some of the bigger names are eager to make their opinions on the matter heard.

HP, Apple and Dell have all released statements offering condolences as well and say they are looking into the matter. Apple's Steve Dowling told Bloomberg that the Cupertino-based company was "saddened and upset" by the suicides.

"We are saddened and upset by the recent suicides at Foxconn. We're in direct contact with Foxconn senior management and we believe they are taking this matter very seriously. A team from Apple is independently evaluating the steps they are taking to address these tragic events and we will continue our ongoing inspections of the facilities where our products are made."

Dell has offered a similar statement and said the company expects Foxconn to employ the same standards Dell does in its own factory.

"We expect our suppliers to employ the same high standards we do in our own facilities. We enforce these standards through a variety of tools, including the Electronics Industry code of conduct, business reviews with suppliers, self-assessments and audits."

Further word from a spokesperson reveals Dell is also investigating the situation.

"Any reports of poor working conditions in Dell’s supply chain are investigated," Jess Blackburn, a spokesman for Dell, said in an email to Bloomberg. "We expect our suppliers to employ the same high standards we do."

HP is also investigating "the Foxconn practices that may be associated with these tragic events."

The news comes as reports suggest the number of suicides at the Foxconn factory has risen to 15.

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    Darkerson , May 28, 2010 12:21 AM
    Heres an idea. Give the poor bastards a break once in a while instead of working them to death. Literally.
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    ryanjm , May 28, 2010 12:14 AM
    Sweatshops in China?!?! No way!
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    house70 , May 28, 2010 12:15 AM
    well, at least they stopped their money counting for a bit to make those comments.
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  • 21 Hide
    ryanjm , May 28, 2010 12:14 AM
    Sweatshops in China?!?! No way!
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    house70 , May 28, 2010 12:15 AM
    well, at least they stopped their money counting for a bit to make those comments.
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    Darkerson , May 28, 2010 12:21 AM
    Heres an idea. Give the poor bastards a break once in a while instead of working them to death. Literally.
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    Anonymous , May 28, 2010 12:22 AM
    read the book "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" by John Perkins. He'll tell you why this is happening.
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    nforce4max , May 28, 2010 12:29 AM
    Looks like to me they're playing damage control, we all know that players like Dell don't care about their employees. The rest are all the same just plain and simple greed.
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    kslghost , May 28, 2010 12:35 AM
    I thought it was already mentioned due to the HUGE number of employees and the suicide rate in China that these numbers were hardly abnormal and were in fact below the pace for expected suicides in the population.
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    Azimuth01 , May 28, 2010 12:56 AM
    Suicide rate in the US: 5.4 out of every 100000
    Suicide rate for Foxconn: 3.75 out of 100000

    The difference is that the US numbers (and indeed most numbers used in this comparison) are based on the number of people who have died I.E. out of every 100000 people that die, 5.4 of them take their own lives..... While the numbers at foxconn are based on an entire living population.

    A more accurate assessment would be to take the number of people who have died in the last 2 months and then compare the number of people who have taken their own lives to the number of people who have died of other causes and express it as a percentage.....no one is posting those numbers though.....
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    Anonymous , May 28, 2010 12:57 AM
    kslghost

    yeah but what if all those below par suicide rates we occurring in just one company?
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    Computerrock1 , May 28, 2010 1:56 AM
    This is a horrible thing, but foxconn doesn't make all that great stuff, and with a staff that big, chances for this kind of thing to happen increase, especially with the economic crisis.
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    Anonymous , May 28, 2010 2:00 AM
    do you know if the employee die, their entire family will receive enough compensation from Foxcoon for the rest of their life without worried about tomorrow...sound like a suicide missing for me...
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    kelemvor4 , May 28, 2010 2:08 AM
    joijjodo you know if the employee die, their entire family will receive enough compensation from Foxcoon for the rest of their life without worried about tomorrow...sound like a suicide missing for me...


    Yep I think you pretty much nailed it. After people saw the first guy's family get nice compensation others decided it was the best way to provide for their families (and they may very well be right, given their situation). You hear of people doing things that will get them thrown in jail for life or even executed so that someone will support their family in return. Doesn't sound far fetched at all to me.
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    ricin , May 28, 2010 2:28 AM
    Dell, seriously? They've had suicides in their own corporate HQ parking lot.
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    Anonymous , May 28, 2010 3:28 AM
    Suicide is tragic but this is not necessarily a Foxconn problem. China's (along with other North Asian countries) has high suicide rates. 13 male and 14.8 female per 100,000. Given Foxconn has ~500,000 employees they are actually below the national average.

    Still its sad but as others have pointed out, there is most likely a combination of financial incentive combined with a generally bigger social problem.
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    truehighroller , May 28, 2010 4:16 AM
    I like how they play it off. They say "Oh no, really well we're going to investigate and make sure everything is being run appropriately right away. We're going to make sure everything is to our high standards we have here." It has already been made public by a spy basically "investigator", going in to the workshop himself and recording what he saw. Not only that this has been made public before for that matter.

    There is no need for you to pretend you care and are going to investigate. We know, you know, what's going on at these factories. It has been going on for a long time and every time some one points it out this is the response that's given. People then think that it's ok to look away because it's being taken care of~ and it continues again..

    Then again I guess that's their reason to come out and say this again huh, so we'll look the other way thinking it will be taken care of. These people won't get raises, they won't work any less of hours. They won't be told that they no longer have to sign some stupid waiver in regards to over time pay. This will continue.

    Sad what money can make people do to each other.

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    triplebug , May 28, 2010 4:45 AM
    I don't but foxconn.
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    brendano257 , May 28, 2010 3:22 PM
    triplebugI don't but foxconn.


    I bet you do and you don't even know it. Look again.
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    sliem , May 28, 2010 3:31 PM
    How about Apple lower or remove its Apple Tax?
    Yes, no body suicides in Apple but Apple fanboys die a little inside every time they buy an Apple product and they don't even know about it.
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    somelucky , May 28, 2010 5:33 PM
    At this point there isn't really much that can be done to fix the situation. All of the companies that use Foxconn to build their products can't suddenly stop. To change manufacturers would be too costly and there really isn't another to switch to. The Chinese government is really the only body that can make Foxconn change, but why would they if any change they make would mean less money entering the country? There would have to be a worldwide boycott of all Foxconn manufactured items for any real change to occur. It's sad, but I don't think 10 suicides is going to make that happen. Maybe if it gets up to 50 or 100 will anyone really start caring?
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    antilycus , May 28, 2010 6:12 PM
    Let me break it down for everyone "as long as we are still paying dirt and charging gold, we really dont give a crap. Afterall, that's why we are there to make money and directly impact the lives of the hundreds of thousands that slave for us. IF we really cared we pull out, but we don't so here is our fake apology. Is this going to affect my weekly check?"

    THE END
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    jimslaid2 , May 28, 2010 6:32 PM
    Well, they have jobs. Right?
    How awesome would it be if Americans made this stuff? Shame on these companies, capitol wealth = greed. Apple, Dell ect. design good stuff, so why make the good stuff in China? Are the profits really worth the pride we should have in our people to make the gadgets that rule our lives?
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