My 8800 is just so old and dated, i think its time to upgrade it. This GTX 250 sounds like the perfect card....

+1 nVidia naming strategies!

seriously come up with new gpus and stop renaming them
some new builders will far for the naming thing while they could have better value card like ATI
and no im not a fanboy im just saying ati won this time

So the GTX 250 or GTX 250?

Also,it's a 9800 GTX+,not the other way around.

i dont mind the rebranding who knows it may have better performance then the older one!


but the renaming does get confusing but when you look at computers as a hole everything is confusing!

This article was seriously written too quick and without any editing. No such thing as gtx 9800+ and Fary Cry 2 doesnt exist either.

I think Fary Cry 2 takes place in San Francisco...

So, after all the outrage on the net over the past few days, about how they were committing fraud with this renaming scheme to fool the idiots of the world, it really is just Nvidia's attempt to simplify the naming scheme of their cards?

This is pathetic from Nvidia, first they renamed this chip from 8800 into 9800 and now to gtx 250, they're dragging down the evolution of graphics card.

I want to see what idiot is going to buy such a old chip.

The problem is when they maintain two product lines that overlap. Nvidia should have done this from the start, rather than releasing the 9800 GTX+ AFTER the GTX 280 had already come out. They started a new product line while they were upgrading the old line. There never should have been a 9-series in the first place. They only created it to look like they had new offerings to compete with the ATI 4000 series.

Nvidia hasn't been able to create a legit low-end 2xx series cards. In fact, the entire GTX 2xx line-up is only a single chip. The 260, 280, 285, and 295 are all the same chip. The only difference is clock-speed, included memory, and newer cards went through a die-shrink. Nvidia never bothered to create a new budget or economy line from this chipset. Therefore, their only option to stay competitive is to rebrand old technology, they have no new technology to market.

Nvidia just sat on their thumbs for too long when ATI wasn't able to compete, and now that ATI has better options, they're caught playing catch-up.

I would like to see Nvidia drop it's prices even more, in order to compete with the 4870's price drop.

Don't buy anything less than the gtx 260 core 216 from Nvidia as the 4870 will beat them all for $149

Yes, Nvidia hasn't offered a whole lot of new stuff lately, but they really don't have to as long as the old stuff (which competes quite well in terms of performance) competes well with the DAAMIT pricing structure. That is they don't "have to" make anything new as long as they don't think DAAMIT will leapfrog them in performance.

Who gives a shit about the names, just look at the fricken specs for Christ's sake.

^cause noobs who know nothing about computer and just want a new graphics card to play WoW are bound to look at the specs between every card, understand what they mean, and determin that those 3 cards are the same and act accordingly...

Did anyone notice it says GTS 250 instead of GTX in the headline? This is another really badly edited article.

GTS 250 is using 512 bit memory instead of 9800+'s 256 bit according to Kevin and Tuan.

It performance increase should be similar to 4850 to 4870.

Hi guys, my apologies for the incorrect spelling of GTS/GTX. I've fixed them now. If you can allow me for a brief moment, because of the very fast pace of news, often times the articles don't go through the deep editing processes that larger hardware reviews go through. Consequently, sometimes mistakes, like typos or in some cases, factual errors, are introduced. We're doing our best to watch out for these for sure.

Again, my personal apologies to all who are reading.

I can tell that some of you are very enthusiastic about what you read, and demand better and better quality--I'm with you on that. So the criticism (and sometimes flames) are welcomed.

Thanks / Tuan

Why would nVidia spend hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions, of dollars in a slow economy in order to develop a new chip that gets the same performance as the old G92? I think y'all are being a little unreasonable in your nVidia-bashing. It makes sense, if they're going to keep the chip so they can compete on the lower price points, that they would rename it to align it with the new naming scheme.

I'm really not concerned about the non-gurus upgrading from 8800GTS 512 cards to GTS 250s.
1. Anyone that buys a graphics card more than once a year should be technically savvy enough to look up benchmarks before buying a new card.
2. I didn't see anyone complaining about how people might want to upgrade from, say, a 8800GT to a 9600GT because it has a higher number.

I think that some of you guys, for whatever reason, have a bone to pick with nVidia and are using this to spew your fanboyism everywhere. I will continue to buy the best bang for the buck, regardless of brand.