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Nvidia Says Intel Pricing is Anticompetitive

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Nvidia has thrown in its two cents regarding Intel’s processor pricing and the company’s fine from the EU.

AMD made sure to comment on the news right off the bat and even posted the news on its website, but there hadn’t been a word from the Nvidia camp. In an interview with Reuters, Jen-Hsun Huang, CEO of Nvidia this week accused Intel of unfair pricing.

Huang told Reuters that the reason why netbook makers don’t use Nvidia graphics is because Intel’s atom by itself is more expensive than purchasing a three-chip set (Atom with motherboard and IGP). According to Reuters, Huang says Intel prices its Atom processor $45, but sells a three-chip set for $25 to lure business away.

Intel, of course, is pooh-poohing the whole idea, claiming it competes fairly.

"We compete fairly. We do not force bundles on any computer makers and customers can purchase Atom individually or as part of the bundle," Bill Calder, a spokesman for Intel told Reuters. "If you want to purchase the chip set, obviously there is better pricing."

Since Intel got smacked with a fine from the EU to the tune of $1.45bn experts say the company can expect to see a ton of civil suits from competitors. Will Nvidia be one of them? Not for now, says Huang.

"I hope it doesn't come down to that," he said, but did not rule out the possibilty completely. "We have to do whatever we have to do when the time comes. We really hope this company (Intel) will compete on a fair basis."

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    fulle , May 19, 2009 4:39 PM
    If a 3 piece set with an Atom processor, IGP, and motherboard only costs 25 dollars... why do piece of shit netbooks cost so much money?
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    tenor77 , May 19, 2009 4:59 PM
    ATI and Nvidia agree on something. So that's 6 seals broken, now for the 7th......
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    fulle , May 19, 2009 5:06 PM
    bill gates is your daddyThere is this funny little thing some of us like to do and you might benefit from it as well. It's called reading. Turns out it's a fun way of finding and understanding information that's floating all around us today.I'm quite certain the story says, and I quote, "Intel prices its Atom processor $45, but sells a three-chip set for $25 to lure business away". I think this means they sell to an OEM 3 chips for $25 even though a single chip only costs $45.Wasn't that fun boys and girls?


    "Nvidia graphics is because Intel’s atom by itself is more expensive than purchasing a three-chip set (Atom with motherboard and IGP). According to Reuters, Huang says Intel prices its Atom processor $45, but sells a three-chip set for $25 to lure business away."

    It wasn't suggested that they sell 3 OEM chips for $25. It was suggested that Intel sells a 3 piece set with the processor, IGP, and motherboard for $25.

    You're the one with fucked up reading proficiency, doofus.
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    dman3k , May 19, 2009 4:37 PM
    I wonder if the nVidia fanboys will now cry that nVidia is childish.
  • 27 Hide
    fulle , May 19, 2009 4:39 PM
    If a 3 piece set with an Atom processor, IGP, and motherboard only costs 25 dollars... why do piece of shit netbooks cost so much money?
  • 9 Hide
    bill gates is your daddy , May 19, 2009 4:42 PM
    What is that over there? Is that a bandwagon? Well I think it is. Hey! I have a great idea. Let's all go jump on it!
  • 12 Hide
    icepick314 , May 19, 2009 4:43 PM
    Et tu, Bruté?
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    duanekimball , May 19, 2009 4:59 PM
    Nice Nvidia... fair pricing??? what the heck?
    You build two boards. One is faster than the other by your own engineering.
    Probably costs 95% the price of the "fast" board and you charge twice as much for the "fast" board...even though it doesn't cost twice as much.

    I know..I know..supply/demand. But, is that really fair?
    Police yourself first..not to mention your graphics card (high-end) costs as much as an entire computer.
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    tenor77 , May 19, 2009 4:59 PM
    ATI and Nvidia agree on something. So that's 6 seals broken, now for the 7th......
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    dman3k , May 19, 2009 5:00 PM
    bustaprnvidia is really being stupid on making these bad comments about intel. Chances are that some people will think about what nvidia said and will go running at AMD for help, making it a bigger company and also reinforcing ATI. Why would intel be worrying about lower-end graphics on netbooks? They should be worrying about PC graphics cards and the evergrowing ATI and should make better, heaper cards just as ATI has been doing.
    So other companies should not talk about how Intel has hurt their business buy offering anti-competitive oem pricing?
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    Anonymous , May 19, 2009 5:04 PM
    Why don't you read before commenting? In the above article a "three-chip set" clearly refers to Atom with motherboard and IGP.
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    fulle , May 19, 2009 5:06 PM
    bill gates is your daddyThere is this funny little thing some of us like to do and you might benefit from it as well. It's called reading. Turns out it's a fun way of finding and understanding information that's floating all around us today.I'm quite certain the story says, and I quote, "Intel prices its Atom processor $45, but sells a three-chip set for $25 to lure business away". I think this means they sell to an OEM 3 chips for $25 even though a single chip only costs $45.Wasn't that fun boys and girls?


    "Nvidia graphics is because Intel’s atom by itself is more expensive than purchasing a three-chip set (Atom with motherboard and IGP). According to Reuters, Huang says Intel prices its Atom processor $45, but sells a three-chip set for $25 to lure business away."

    It wasn't suggested that they sell 3 OEM chips for $25. It was suggested that Intel sells a 3 piece set with the processor, IGP, and motherboard for $25.

    You're the one with fucked up reading proficiency, doofus.
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    endif , May 19, 2009 5:08 PM
    fulle"Nvidia graphics is because Intel’s atom by itself is more expensive than purchasing a three-chip set (Atom with motherboard and IGP). According to Reuters, Huang says Intel prices its Atom processor $45, but sells a three-chip set for $25 to lure business away."It wasn't suggested that they sell 3 OEM chips for $25. It was suggested that Intel sells a 3 piece set with the processor, IGP, and motherboard for $25.You're the one with fucked up reading proficiency, doofus.


    Thank you for being the one to say it... I didn't want to have to point it out. I hate flamers.
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    JAYDEEJOHN , May 19, 2009 5:28 PM
    This has been known for awhile. And we see apologists claiming that this isnt needed on Netbooks anyways, tho Id point out Acers recent editions, which do HD video, and whatll be the next excuse?
    Intel needs to quit slowing down potential, tho, nVidia should also do the same, and not hold back DX releases either. Tho in Intels case, its market manipulation, which is more anti-competitive, than what nVidia did.
    I hope they sue as well, and this sort of thing stops now
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    fulle , May 19, 2009 5:30 PM
    lol, lets give a guy negative votes for thinking systems including a 25 dollar mobo + IGP + processor combos shouldn't cost 300-400 dollars. I was waay off base, amiright?

    Back on subject though, if Intel is selling such combos for $25, while selling Atom processors individually for $45, they're obviously abusing their monopolistic position to hurt Nvidia. Which, seems to just be the trend with Intel over the years.
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    B-Unit , May 19, 2009 5:33 PM
    Wow, that HAS to be illegal, I can see getting good savings, i.e Atom for $45 by itself, combo for $50, but selling the combo for LESS than an individual CPU...
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    chuenl , May 19, 2009 5:36 PM
    Intel's outrageously cheap bundle price of $25 explains why nobody could build a netbook with Atom/Ion and still price it as competitive.
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    scarywoody , May 19, 2009 5:42 PM
    From my understanding and reading a few of these across a few other sites. Intel sells the atom itself for $45, but when bundled with the 2 other supporting chips the atom itself costs $25. So $25+cost of the other 2 chips. Not $25 for all 3 chips. So

    Atom $45
    Atom$ $25+cost of 2 other chips.
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    JAYDEEJOHN , May 19, 2009 5:43 PM
    Every time I brought this up, I was shot down, and told no one needs decent IGPs in a netbook. A way of diffusing the real problem, Intels market manipulation.
    Now Acer and others are bringing out somewhat decent video playback in their new Netbooks, this no longer works.
    Im just wondering, what the excuse will be? Because its Intels chips, they dont have the right to seel them as they may, not when it comes to anti competition, so, all you Intel fans, get over it
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    IzzyCraft , May 19, 2009 5:44 PM
    dman3kI wonder if the nVidia fanboys will now cry that nVidia is childish.

    Naw i'd expect this from nvidia the company that gets a better card out then ati first that cost 400$ but then when ati comes out with their performer that is similar in performance for 200$ Nvidia follows suit and drops the price down. But they dont seem to loose money so makes me wonder how much of that is profit. But not like i care i just like nvidia more then ATI green is just a better color
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    IzzyCraft , May 19, 2009 5:47 PM
    chuenlIntel's outrageously cheap bundle price of $25 explains why nobody could build a netbook with Atom/Ion and still price it as competitive.

    I still want an nvidia ion netbook :D  i want to rip it apart in the good curious way.
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