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Say Goodbye to VGA in 5 Years

by - source: Technewsworld

Intel and AMD announce that VGA will be phased out by 2015.

The VGA port, or Video Graphics Array, has been connecting monitors to computers since almost the birth of the computer. In recent years, displays and computers have begun to adapt the newer DisplayPort and HDMI technologies which allow for less space and power consumption and higher resolutions.

Intel and AMD have announced that they will stop support for VGA beginning in 2013 and expect the technology to die out by 2015, being replaced by DisplayPort and HDMI ports. We have already seen plenty of video cards stop supporting VGA and it is no surprise that the two giants of the computer world are beginning to do it as well. Getting rid of VGA means slimmer laptops that allow for a much more vibrant and clear high resolution display than the more than 20-year-old VGA.

Nick Knuppfer, Intel's spokesperson, told TechNewsWorld, "HDMI and DisplayPort are modern digital interfaces that support higher resolutions and screen sizes."

This move will result in a much quicker integration of DisplayPort and HDMI technologies which will lead to higher resolutions and modern interfaces on the displays of the future. Samsung, LG and Dell have already begun to integrate DisplayPort technology on their devices and are on-board with Intel and AMD's plans for the death of the VGA port.

Despite the adaptation of newer technology, the 5-volt requirement on VGA ports would actually result in an overall increase in cost and PCB real estate. Because newer CPUs and GPUs are migrating below 45nm CMOS processes, supporting the VGA port would be difficult and likely result in moving the port off of the chip.

It's always a bittersweet type of feeling to see old technology go, but VGA's death will be for the best. What do you guys think? Anyone still using a VGA port?

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knightmike 12/17/2010 1:28 AM
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I think I said goodbye 5 years ago.

rwpritchett 12/17/2010 1:39 AM
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Now, when will they get rid of the PS/2 port?

scanlia 12/17/2010 1:41 AM
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lightbody 12/17/2010 1:42 AM
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No VGA in my house. Rest of my family still uses it though.

hoofhearted 12/17/2010 1:45 AM
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I am still using a PC with an MFM harddrive

winuwinu 12/17/2010 1:47 AM
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I was hoping this meant the Video Game Awards.

darkguset 12/17/2010 1:49 AM
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I am all for getting rid of it finally. My concern is what is going to happen with all those Projectors, etc that are already very expensive and support VGA only....

JE_D 12/17/2010 1:50 AM
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I am currently using VGA right now.
But I will be using HDMI as soon as I get my new monitor

cadder 12/17/2010 1:51 AM
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VGA is still the lowest common denominator. I have a Mac but it won't work with my old DVI monitor so I had to buy adapters and use it with an old VGA adapter. I was running my home computer with DVI but I couldn't find a decent DVI KVM switch at any price so I had to switch everything back to VGA and use a very good VGA KVM switch that only cost $15. My computers at work use DVI monitors but I have to use adapters to connect them to my new CAD workstation that came with VGA only ports.

Fortunately VGA won't die out completely, other people will still support it. I would hat to throw away perfectly usable hardware and buy new hardware just because the plugs don't work anymore. I would rather use my money to buy new CPU's and hard drives and such.

jimmysmitty 12/17/2010 2:01 AM
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scanlia :
Nah, I like VGA because it "has no limit on resolution" and HDMI can only go up to 2560x1600 or something. Wait, HDMI supports high quality audio too though... ?



The problem with VGA though is it runs a analog signal. And I think the one you are thinking of as limitless resolution is Dual link DVI which is not limited to any resolution except the available bandwidth on the copper connectors.

HDMI however is capable of up to 2160P (3840 x 2160) resolution which we don't have any monitors that support it and any resolution beyond that is already supported via DVI/DisplayPort and multiple monitors on most ATI HD5K+ series GPUs.

jhansonxi 12/17/2010 2:03 AM
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VGA doesn't have DRM but I still expect it to disappear like Hercules graphics. Composite video will be next (another "analog hole").

MoulaZX 12/17/2010 2:04 AM
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scanlia :
Nah, I like VGA because it "has no limit on resolution" and HDMI can only go up to 2560x1600 or something. Wait, HDMI supports high quality audio too though... ?



I think you got that the wrong way around. VGA is the one that gets screwy at high res.

mister g 12/17/2010 2:14 AM
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Either way this was already commented on nearly a week ago, I gorgot the tile but it was basically the same idea. I think that the government and businesses will keep VGA despite the benefits of DVI because they have such old gear they want to use (despite the fact that said gear will cost them in the power bill if not upfront cost). I read in an article somewhere that the Justice Department(US) had just finished migrating all of their PCs of IE5! Guesss how old their other gear ought to be!

soldier37 12/17/2010 2:18 AM
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LOL 2001 called they want their video port back...I'm on 2010 tech- Display Port and never looking back!

tpi2007 12/17/2010 2:35 AM
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I'm still on VGA and it seems there are still a lot of brand new 22 inch Wide Full HD LCD's from Brands such as LG and Samsung that still have ONLY a VGA port.

My cousin wanted a cheap monitor earlier this year and he got a brand new LG, Full HD, 22 inch Wide 16:9 that only has VGA. And they want to get rid of it in three years ? Make that seven.

joex444 12/17/2010 2:46 AM
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I run a 25" LCD on VGA, in 1080p. Slimline desktop case and I put in a GbE card in the PCIe 16x slot since this is at work and not for games. The monitor only has VGA and HDMI (though it came with a DVI-HDMI cable, and no HDMI-HDMI cable).

It doesn't look any better or worse than my monitor at home, which is on DVI. So, who really cares if you're using VGA ... there's nothing intrinsically flawed with an analog signal and nothing intrinsically advantageous about a digital one. Not at current monitor resolutions anyways. But hey, if dumping VGA means 1600p monitors come down to sane prices by 2013/2015, who cares. There's plenty of dongles and adapters out there no one should have a problem connecting old VGA monitors to new HDMI/DVI/DP graphics cards/laptops.

Gin Fushicho 12/17/2010 2:46 AM
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What about DVI?

Anonymous 12/17/2010 3:15 AM
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i still use VGA a lot, and get rid of ps/2 NO WAY! i still prefer ps/2 for mouse/keyboard.. i've seen my fair share of flakey usb keyboards.

i hate seeing legacy tech phased out.. it can still be useful i still find occasion to use lpt and serial ports.

elcentral 12/17/2010 3:15 AM
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well ps/2 port is always in use for my keyboard but the mouse old port can go for me.

thejerk 12/17/2010 3:16 AM
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mister g :
Either way this was already commented on nearly a week ago, I gorgot the tile but it was basically the same idea. I think that the government and businesses will keep VGA despite the benefits of DVI because they have such old gear they want to use (despite the fact that said gear will cost them in the power bill if not upfront cost). I read in an article somewhere that the Justice Department(US) had just finished migrating all of their PCs of IE5! Guesss how old their other gear ought to be!



Well, they also have enough to make wholes out of spare parts. Most major IT departments keep spare parts around. You would hope a few of those $40,000 toilet seats I bought would pay for a few IT storage rooms.

I'm sure monitor manufacturers will support VGA for a few years after the video card manufacturers stop, just for legacy hardware.

But, seriously, there needs to be either a switch to a higher-bandwidth HDMI, or just standardizing display port for all video.

thejerk 12/17/2010 3:19 AM
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Gin Fushicho :
What about DVI?



What about DVI?

It's going to be around for a fair while.

iam2thecrowe 12/17/2010 3:24 AM
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darkguset :
I am all for getting rid of it finally. My concern is what is going to happen with all those Projectors, etc that are already very expensive and support VGA only....


dvi/hdmi to vga adaptors. Hell there are still plenty of paralell port laser printers we service kiking around running paralell-ethernet adaptors. Ive even seen PC systems running the old green screen monitors which are only just getting phased out in a couple companies. They still use them to access old data and whatever. There will always be a few people out there who refuse to throw this stuff away.....

chickenhoagie 12/17/2010 3:32 AM
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oooohh VGA...such dirty picture quality, but lasted so long. It is time to put this beast to rest. had one hell of a run!

dEAne 12/17/2010 3:40 AM
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Their are still industrial companies who uses VGA displays on their plant automation (not in their offices) - they are working in quite good condition. Even in commercial applications like alarm systems are still using VGA connection and it's rare to see them fail, I guess 2013 is a way of saying from the companies who made VGA "don't use it anymore, because it is old stuff" - but it doesn't mean it will stop from their.

applegetsmelaid 12/17/2010 3:50 AM
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The VGA port in that picture looks sad and blue.

kelemvor4 12/17/2010 4:12 AM
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scanlia :
Nah, I like VGA because it "has no limit on resolution" and HDMI can only go up to 2560x1600 or something. Wait, HDMI supports high quality audio too though... ?


1920×1200 is max at 60hz progressive, even with the 1.4. You can do higher res with 1.4 if you go to a much lower rate (24hz). You're thinking dual link dvi probably; which will do 2560x1600 at 60hz (this is what I run on my primary monitor) or 3840×2400@33hz. Displayport is superior with a top end of 3840 × 2160@60hz; although a lot of monitors still don't support displayport from what I've seen.

Personally I think something new needs to come out that will do at least 2560x1600@120hz for 3d support at a decent res.

VGA only goes to 2048x1536@85 Hz.

AMW1011 12/17/2010 4:16 AM
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rwpritchett :
Now, when will they get rid of the PS/2 port?



Absolutely not. PS/2 supports n-key rollover, or NKRO. USB only goes up to 6KRO. This is a huge difference to a lot of people, especially professional software designers.

damasvara 12/17/2010 4:28 AM
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This is like telling everyone to be rich. Cheap monitors, especially CRTs, are still taking advantage of VGA connectors. It's not like we all have HDTVs in our houses.

I'll understand if it's like DDR2 to DDR3 transition. Something's cooking behind this... :heink:

nforce4max 12/17/2010 4:40 AM
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No thanks but I much rather keep my bulky crt screens plus VGA isn't going to die any time soon. Knowing industry and general behavior in the markets it would take up to a decade for vga to die many years after no additional support from the top hogs. As for PS/2 it is better over usb for a lot of reasons and I have had enough of those crappy usb keyboards and mice that only last for a few months tops before going bad.

lupinesithlord 12/17/2010 4:41 AM
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I hook my 360 up to my 1080p tv using the vga cable, it provides the best picture for it.

eodeo 12/17/2010 4:53 AM
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i run 24" 1920x1200 on vga. couldnt be happier or care less about dvi/hdmi. audio throu video cable is a nice idea if you have tv and no real speakers. dvi adds next to nothing in quality, but is admirably easier to use and setup than vga. displayport is far too new and too few devices use it. 99.9% of users dont know/care/want it.

as it is, 2015 sounds about right for the phasing out of the vga port. Not sure what elese is ati going to do, as I havent seen a vga ported card for couple of years now.


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