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Synthetic Benchmarks: 3DMark Vantage

AMD Or Intel: Which $100 Gaming CPU Should You Buy?
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As usual, we'll start off with a quick synthetic benchmark to whet our appetites and give us some sort of baseline for diving into our real-world performance exploration.

Apparently, 3DMark is a fan of multiple CPU cores. It also seems to like the dual-core Pentium's architecture more than the Phenom II X2, which is surprising given the clock speed and cache disparity. Then again, synthetics are designed to (ideally) represent the future of programming in a given genre, so the fact that this gaming-oriented test emphasizes threading is more an indication of the potential of increased development effort into utilizing CPU resources in games for things like physics and artificial intelligence.

That's it for synthetics, now for some real-world games.

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    curnel_D , October 15, 2009 6:30 AM
    Don WoligroskiOne final factor we didn't have time to test this time around is overclocking. When overclocked, would the Phenom II 550 Black Edition become a monster? Would the dual-core Pentium E6500 pull a rabbit from its hat? Or would the Athlon II X4 620 and Phenom II X3 710 be able to hold on to their strengths? If this is something you'd like us to explore, please let us know in the comments section.


    OC potential is one of the most important factors in an article like this. If you can, most deff post an update soon.
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    curnel_D , October 15, 2009 6:41 AM
    wintermintWhich of the 4 CPU listed in the article is more future-proof?

    The AthalonII X4 would deffinately be the more futureproof of the four. Programs and games are rapidly being developed and upgraded to use 4+ threads. And when threaded applications finally hits mainstream, you'll appriciate those one or two cores a whole lot more. (Not to mention the platform itself lends itself to future upgrades a whole lot better than the 775 platform.)
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    Anonymous , October 15, 2009 7:03 AM
    ohimWell i don`t get it you become a cheap bastard on cheap parts and go OC and rise your electrical bill and risk damagin your CPU ... so where`s the benefit ?

    What's the benifit of harrassing people who arent driving daddy's bently to the PC store to squander away all their allowance on overpriced parts?

    Get a life dude.
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    kenjiuchimura , October 15, 2009 6:19 AM


    It's a shame there aren't more games that run like FO3 considering how gorgeous it is yet still being much more accessible based on its focus of CPU power instead of being topheavy on the GPU side.
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    FUtomNOreg , October 15, 2009 6:22 AM
    If people have a delusion that games are not cpu constrained, it is because, if I recall, an article in Tom's made the assertion that any c2d >3GHz was sufficient.
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    curnel_D , October 15, 2009 6:30 AM
    Don WoligroskiOne final factor we didn't have time to test this time around is overclocking. When overclocked, would the Phenom II 550 Black Edition become a monster? Would the dual-core Pentium E6500 pull a rabbit from its hat? Or would the Athlon II X4 620 and Phenom II X3 710 be able to hold on to their strengths? If this is something you'd like us to explore, please let us know in the comments section.


    OC potential is one of the most important factors in an article like this. If you can, most deff post an update soon.
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    wintermint , October 15, 2009 6:31 AM
    AMD is really evening the playing field with their low cost CPU :)  but they should start challenging the Core i7 :( 
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    siliconchampion , October 15, 2009 6:37 AM
    I would have to say that overclocking results would be extremely useful. May I suggest that you run the same benchmarks again at two levels, the maximum overclock at stock voltage, and again with maximum stable overclock. Then compare the results to today's benches.

    I would have to agree with some of the poster's above that overclockability is a key factor in this price segment.
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    curnel_D , October 15, 2009 6:37 AM
    kenjiuchimuraIt's a shame there aren't more games that run like FO3 considering how gorgeous it is yet still being much more accessible based on its focus of CPU power instead of being topheavy on the GPU side.

    360 ports generally run really smooth on adequite PC hardware, simply because of the archetectual similarities. I personally dont think that FO3's graphic technology is all that great, but the art direction that Bethesda took made it a great looking game.

    Another game that does this really well is Operation Flashpoint 2. Technically speaking, the grapics arent that great. And I notice alot of places where textures and polys arent what they should be for a PC game. But aside from that, the game looks fantastic and runs very smooth even at the highest settings, and it all has to do with art, not technology.
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    mrsiberia , October 15, 2009 6:40 AM
    I would love to see what impact OC has... Imo it's always interesting with budget hardware.
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    curnel_D , October 15, 2009 6:41 AM
    wintermintWhich of the 4 CPU listed in the article is more future-proof?

    The AthalonII X4 would deffinately be the more futureproof of the four. Programs and games are rapidly being developed and upgraded to use 4+ threads. And when threaded applications finally hits mainstream, you'll appriciate those one or two cores a whole lot more. (Not to mention the platform itself lends itself to future upgrades a whole lot better than the 775 platform.)
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    tacoslave , October 15, 2009 6:53 AM
    well amd always pwns on the lower end but what i want to see is them pull out a demon with shiny guns that can gut an i7 clean. then we can start the partying (and new systems)
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    IzzyCraft , October 15, 2009 6:59 AM
    Curnel_DOC potential is one of the most important factors in an article like this. If you can, most deff post an update soon.

    Yup that's the most interesting part of this. E6300 and the 550 are the most expected to oc well and benefit from it the most which is a factor for the crowd that reads these articles.
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    Anonymous , October 15, 2009 7:03 AM
    ohimWell i don`t get it you become a cheap bastard on cheap parts and go OC and rise your electrical bill and risk damagin your CPU ... so where`s the benefit ?

    What's the benifit of harrassing people who arent driving daddy's bently to the PC store to squander away all their allowance on overpriced parts?

    Get a life dude.
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    masterjaw , October 15, 2009 7:03 AM
    Nice article but buying a budget CPU will also be affected by its potentials. So it would be nice if you would add up the overclocking areas of these CPUs.
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    rip187 , October 15, 2009 7:05 AM
    Ohim its for the same reason that us "cheap bastards" buy a i7 920 and overclock it rather than buying an I7 that costs twice or 4 times as much. The benefits outweigh the risks.
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    brockh , October 15, 2009 7:12 AM
    I feel this would've been more interesting with the 720. I know it's $20 more, but hey. :p 
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    Proximon , October 15, 2009 7:15 AM
    Yes, I would especially like to see what you can squeeze out of those motherboards.
    This exact question has been bugging me all week, and here you are with the answers... Have you been reading my posts??? :) 
    Anyway, I strongly suspect that any 785G board is just all around better than any G41, another factor. 785G seems to aim for a wider audience.
    Wouldn't a P43 board be closer in price to a 785G? Might that be a fairer comparison?
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    dirtmountain , October 15, 2009 7:49 AM
    A very well done article. The multitasking benchmark was a real eye opener. I'd like to see an overclocking look at these 4 CPUs, i'm not as interested in anything extreme as I am in stable and cool overclocks.
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    Honis , October 15, 2009 7:49 AM
    Good article!

    An overclock article is more than a little over due for the $100 and lower level CPUs.
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    SpadeM , October 15, 2009 8:05 AM
    Quote:
    I think it's important to note that out of the nine games we tested, only two of them--Crysis and Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X.--demonstrated any notable performance decrease between 1280x1024 and 1920x1200. This is a real wake-up call to folks who believe that all modern games are limited only by the graphics hardware and that the CPU is almost irrelevant when it comes to gaming. Clearly, the benchmarks demonstrated that this isn't the case, and the CPU has a very significant impact on game performance.


    Yes and no, but that would have been uncontested if you'd have benched an intel quad core or even the 1000$ i7 (kind of like 100$ vs 1000$ processor battle in gaming). I know that common sense dictates that if u buy a 1000$ processor you will pair it with the appropriate graphics card and not just a 4890, but still in theory for a cpu to cpu comparison it would have sense.
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    thedexmonster , October 15, 2009 8:22 AM
    Not everyone wants to destroy their hardware faster than necessary!!! Overclocking potential is definitely a plus, but not absolutely necessary for a budget build! Relatively speaking, there aren't very many people who actually know how to maintain a computer system! I clean a 1/4" of dust off the CPU fan with no exhaust fan installed all the time! Put overclocking in someones head and they'll just think they don't have to spend as much money.
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