Power Consumption And Value

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2:00 AM - 08/12/2009 by Thomas Soderstrom

Digital Storm’s single GeForce GTX 295 uses the equivalent of two GTX 275 graphics processors, while the Maingear Ephex relies on three GeForce GTX 285 cards. But power reductions don’t end there, as Digital Storm was also able to get its CPU overclock and memory speed using default settings, while Maingear increased voltage for both. How much difference will these changes make in peek GPU and CPU power draw?

A 76 W total power savings under full CPU load is significant, yet an increase in GPU idle power is part of that equation. More significant is the GPU load test, where the lower-performance Gaming Dominator’s less-elaborate graphics configuration is the leading reason for its 43% power savings.

A 10% overall performance difference paired with a 20% minimum power consumption difference gives the Gaming Dominator a significant efficiency lead.

Value always favors less-expensive systems, yet going “too small” results in a system that can’t keep up with high-end tasks. Fortunately, the Gaming Dominator survived most of our graphics tests with smooth frame rates up to a 2560x1600 graphic resolution, so most high-end buyers should be pleased with its combination of adequate performance and greater value.

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grog189 08/12/2009 8:45 AM
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I would have to say the last page of this review is the only reason i would ever tell a friend to buy one of these computer's. The warranty and tech support to me is worth the 250$ extra price tag to anyone that does not know anything about computer's but still enjoy's playing games to their fullest.

I don't mind helping out my friend's but face it you are not always going to be there for them for the next 3 or 4 yrs they end up using the computer. When a problem arise's and you cannot be there they are bound to start messing with things and this is where they can really ruin their computer instead of just calling tech support and asking what they should do. Had a friend try to replace his cpu once, suffice to say he didnt know about different sockets and ended not only buying the wrong type but also tried forcing it onto the mobo and almost ended up breaking off quite a few pins but thankfully he decided to wait for my help before he proceded any further.

That's my 2ct. Insurance is great for those that don't know how to fix their computer or don't have the money to fix it if something breaks and their factory warranty either doesn't cover it or has run out.

The_Blood_Raven 08/12/2009 8:52 AM
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IzzyCraft 08/12/2009 8:56 AM
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I saw System i thought it was going to end with "builder's marathon give away" then my heart dropped as i read the rest :)

falchard 08/12/2009 9:27 AM
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The thing I don't like about modern cases is all the mesh they use. How are you suppose to blow out heat when all the cold air is blowing out the case before it reaches the heat source? Also needlessly expensive case. Everygame on the market can run on a single high-end GPU. Not many productivity software utilize crossfire or sli. The next time a game comes out that will be challenging to a GPU setup, its gonna take more then 3-HD4890 to run it. Just because when they are released they are usually too much for the most modern high end solution, a generation+ old setup won't have a chance.

ravenware 08/12/2009 9:45 AM
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A High-End gaming system should encompass a quality sound card.
This portion of a build is omitted far too often.

Other than that, not bad and the company isn't charging a ridiculous premium for build costs or support.

Crashman 08/12/2009 9:52 AM
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ravenware :
A High-End gaming system should encompass a quality sound card.This portion of a build is omitted far too often.Other than that, not bad and the company isn't charging a ridiculous premium for build costs or support.



They do if you want to pick your own parts. But if you like any of their pre-selected configurations, you can get heavy discounts that make it a good value for labor and support.

haplo602 08/12/2009 10:41 AM
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/me raising hand :-)

I know this situation, however in my country such a premium price will not be accepted by the normal folks ... anyway one could build a good bissiness on this model I guess.

Anyway the rig looks good as to the component config. However I did not find the PSU details in the article.

drealar 08/12/2009 10:58 AM
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@The_Blood_Raven

LoL man, the conclusion is written in very simple English.

Although I can't compare how well is Digital Storm's support compared to yours, I can roughly see that your support and services are F.O.C. That kinda indicates that you're doing something else for a living and not guaranteed to be there when I need you during the 3 years period.

Although companies and retailers do messed up at times, there are legally written Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy that give customers assurance. In Maslow's Hierarchy, safety and assurance comes next after food-shelter-money-sex :D

drealar 08/12/2009 11:05 AM
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Talking about food-shelter-money-SEX, I kinda feel that the ads of Evony with the big boobs model is distracting :P . Most probably that's why recently, my non-nerdy friend like to visit Tom's and other out-of-his-interest sites :D

nonxcarbonx 08/12/2009 11:13 AM
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This sounds like an advertisement meshed up as a review (though I assume that it is still truthful), and the fact that a digital storm advertisement is in the upper right hand corner of this page (in my case anyways) doesn't quell that suspicion. I'd rather read an article about a normal system builder's marathon or some crazy overclocking or a huge raid array than this.

baddad 08/12/2009 2:33 PM
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This is suppose to be a high end gaming machine, why would anybody buy one and not use it with a screen resolution of 1920x1200/1080 or above? Why are you testing in 1024x768?

zehpavora 08/12/2009 3:02 PM
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One thing I think anybody talked about: Don´t you think that you should upgrade all possible drivers to do this tests? C'mon people... Drivers are NOT a special part of the machine because they can (and must) be upgraded by the user. I suppose that the comparison would make more sense if you tested the builds as equal as possible. I also put my opinion in the side that says that when drivers are different, they change the comparison drastically.

scook9 08/12/2009 3:27 PM
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corsair sells the h50, not cooler master

Decent system though at a decent price (compared to other builders)

jcknouse 08/12/2009 3:42 PM
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timby 08/12/2009 5:20 PM
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I would love to see a review of Vigor Gaming Systems PC with a similar setup. I priced out a similar system from them for around 2K delivered.

timby 08/12/2009 5:22 PM
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I would like to see a review of Vigor Gaming Systems PCs in a similar config.

I have used their Configurator for a system with almost the same hardware for around 2K delivered.

Just my 2 cents ...

bounty 08/12/2009 5:32 PM
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Would have been nice if this system started you off with a better power supply, then if you want performance that's faster than the Maingear system, you only need to buy another 295 and configure SLI. Replacing power supplies sucks, since you have to reroute all the cables again, or leave a mess.

(p.s. I'm assuming you would need a bigger power supply to SLI 295's + OC'd 950 but I don't regularly build systems that draw that kind of power.)

gatto1000 08/12/2009 5:58 PM
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I see all you guys listing the parts and costs claiming to save an average of 300 dollars if you build it yourself, but none of you list the OS and it's price on it ...so your real saving is 150 dollars or less, or you are willing to use pirated Os on it?

The_Blood_Raven 08/12/2009 6:26 PM
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drealar :
@The_Blood_RavenLoL man, the conclusion is written in very simple English.Although I can't compare how well is Digital Storm's support compared to yours, I can roughly see that your support and services are F.O.C. That kinda indicates that you're doing something else for a living and not guaranteed to be there when I need you during the 3 years period.Although companies and retailers do messed up at times, there are legally written Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy that give customers assurance. In Maslow's Hierarchy, safety and assurance comes next after food-shelter-money-sex


I think you are all missing the point. While I can be there within an hour or a week at the latest, no holding times and no shipping fees if the problem is very serious, I am not a tech support but I can guarantee to keep the machine running between myself and warranties. Also there are tech supports for each component or software as well, if I tell a customer what the problem they are having sounds like to me they CAN call tech support or google it. Baring all that I will take my time to fix a problem or research any odd problem. I have never failed to fix any problems yet. Your right I am not a company, but just because you do not have a written warranty such as the one in this article does not mean that you are totally out in the cold.

I also showed that a builder such as myself could have built a faster computer for less making that $250 figure atleast $400 if not more. My point is, at that point the support is very expensive.

You also have to understand that I do this as a hobby and not a side income, I charge way too little. whether it be $350 worth of components or $2000 worth I just simply enjoy building computers and helping others.

Because I got marked me down so much I guess some people mustn't really understand my point so I will spell it out for you: THE COST OF SUPPORT IN THIS INSTANCE IS GREATER THAT $250, MEANING THE CONCLUSION WAS OFF.

septagent 08/12/2009 6:27 PM
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@The_Blood_Raven

I think you missed the introduction. A good majority of us would much rather provide a high end gaming machine to a friend WITHOUT having to provide the support for years. We have other jobs and plenty of things to do. In my case, the machines like this that i have tried to provide for friends were hundreds of miles away. When they have a major issue and lose a power supply or something, It's a pain to have to arrange a trip (or make them wait for a trip) up there to take care of it.
It would be nice to be able to recommend a high end machine with full support and only a few hundred bucks more.

Sounds selfish, but the amount of free service it would take for me to travel 150 miles to replace a power supply (or MOBO, or anything else) is worth much more than $400 you might save in parts. It would be worth it on just one trip, let alone 2 or 3 that might be necessary over the years.

I think it's totally appropriate to recommend a vendor like this.


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