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Conclusions

The Shuttle system has proven that it is a very stable and fast system. It is not without its flaws, but Shuttle definitely delivers an extremely high performance machine that is not limited in performance due to being a SFF system.

The Good

  • Very fast system
  • Very good cable management
  • High quality construction
  • Top quality throughout, including solid state capacitors
  • Good and easy overclocking out of the box

The Bad

  • Loud system fans under heavy load
  • Loud hard drive access during activity
  • Front access door could be more solid
  • No PCI slot
  • Fingerprint reader accuracy

This system even worked well when things did not go as expected. If an overclocking setting was too aggressive, it was easy to reset the BIOS by pressing the button on the back of the system. When the fingerprint reader proved to be unreliable, removing the software restored the normal Vista login. Shuttle provided the top-end hardware CPU, GPU and a quality board that exceeded expectations. This was clearly a system that did not sacrifice performance for size.

The memory and board could perform slightly better, but reaching higher FSB numbers does not really translate into better performance. The system could use some noise dampening, such as silicone or rubber grommets for the hard drive, and noise absorbing material inside the cover to muffle HDD activity.

The system is not cheap by any means, but does provide warranty coverage for overclocking. All things considered, this is a great system packed into an SFF package that more than earn my respect.


Talkback

dragonsprayer 05/01/2008 10:31 AM
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Shuttles are great computers if you want something very small they can not be beat. I use both micro atx systems and sff (shuttles). I have a few now, my rock solid old P4 (nw 3.0c running 3.6ghz) lasted 4 years while running 24/7 and logging close to 12 hours a day of usage. The major disadvantage is lack of non oem parts, i.e. a mobo replacement is expensive. The advantage is the initial cost is low. The psu's are much stronger then their rating compared to similar rated standard psu's. Since you get a cool, cpu cooler with the deal they are very reasonably priced and easy to build! Put some foam on the inside vents and you got a filtered system you can have up and running in a few hours. This new crossfire unit should rock with the new 700 series ati cards. Bios upgrades can be a pain, or lacking, so make sure the initial bios works for your set up. I love shuttles! If you fill your system will lots of drives and dual video cards you can tweak the cooling by adding second fan in the back of the shuttle dual, fan out.
Deleted profile 05/02/2008 4:03 AM
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One thing about this and the 35 model... DO NOT PLAN on RAID if you BUY a SATA DVD/CD UNIT. For what ever reason.. You can't get the RAID setup screen with all three items on SATA. You'll need to buy IDE DVD/CD Unit then you can utilized the built in RAID CONTROLLER. Live and learn.. I did on both the 35 and 38 unit.
BillLake 05/02/2008 5:07 AM
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Great tip about the raid controller, another tip is if you pick ACHI for the SATA controller for the newest features of SATA 2 then a SATA optical drive is not seen in windows. there is no alternative SATA controller so you have to use IDE to have an optical drive.
rgsaunders 05/02/2008 6:38 AM
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Note: your comment about max crossfix config is incorrect, there are a few single slot HD3870 cards, I am currently running the Sapphire HD 3870 Toxic, an excellent single slot solution which runs very cool and quiet.
alphastryk 05/02/2008 9:26 AM
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yay shuttle... got my SX38P@ running a Q6600, 8gb ram, 9800gx2... not that loud really... and the power supplies are far above standard quality and power...
mbaroud 05/02/2008 11:51 AM
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So alpha...i was actually planing to purchase this. The 9800GX2 fits in this SFF????
BillLake 05/03/2008 1:48 AM
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Yeah got one and unless you are running 100 % load it is pretty quiet. If a 8800 GTX fits you should be able to get a 9800GX2 in, just compare it to the XFX card I used in the review.
mbaroud 05/03/2008 5:53 AM
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My concern is the power, will the PSU handle the load of a Q6700 the 9800GX2 and 2 hard-drives in RAID-0???
I move alot for my work, wanted something compact and SUPER POWERFULL!!
Mathos 05/04/2008 6:01 AM
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They should add another video card option. The Sapphire Toxic/Atomic edition 3870 could easily fit in there. Mines runs pretty cool even under load, which is great for single slot. Would also give them a higher end dual card solution for those systems.
BillLake 05/04/2008 5:26 AM
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mbaroud, I checked and the 9800GX2 only pulls about 10-15 more than the 8800GTX used in the testing PC. The 9650 should be a very big draw when overclocked and so I would think you could be OK with your config.

Mathos, I wish they did offer more selection but you can get any video card you want if you build up a barebones unit.
mbaroud 05/06/2008 1:41 AM
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Thanks for the great effort Bill!
I appreciate your help on this, i think i am going forward with the purchase!!

BillLake 05/08/2008 10:06 AM
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Great, just remember SFF do have their +/- but I think this one has great performance.
waynejoneser 05/09/2008 7:35 AM
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Hey, just built one of these using 9800gtx, q9300, 8gb ram and the 10k raptor. It works great! Had to remove small piece of plastic from the gtx to get it to fit around the motherboard power connector. Also, had to download the 64bit drivers from shuttle because either they weren't on the disk or the install routine didn't detect it was a 64bit os.

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