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  • fearless1333
    Call me selfish but damn Intel, I don't care if AMD is laughably behind you, and if perhaps a large percentage of computer users use integrated graphics, place more emphasis on improving processing power :(.
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  • whyso
    Its an engineering sample, I'll wait for legit reviews.

    But doesn't look good.
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  • payturr
    It's not a big deal - they don't have to increase performance cause AMD is so behind, if AMD however caught up, I'm sure Intel would have something up their sleeve, but I wouldn't worry. This performance is still decent, especially since its not gonna be a MASSIVE architectural change like Penryn to Nehalem.
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  • gilgamex
    fearless1333Call me selfish but damn Intel, I don't care if AMD is laughably behind you, and if perhaps a large percentage of computer users use integrated graphics, place more emphasis on improving processing power .
    AMD isn't laughably behind, Yes the single threaded IPC is lower and gaming sure especially with CPU dependent games like skyrim staring it down. Also power consumption can vary wildly when overclocking and is generally more inefficient than Intel CPU's. Thing is though It is very competitive on multi-tasking chores and can be a great cheap alternative for those running those kinds of work loads. That's where that architecture shines, it was born for that and for such a small company against the goliath that is Intel the fact AMD is in the ring is pretty sweet. Everyone just clammers for the crown holder like a bunch of pre-schoolers when you have to evolve your mindstate on the entire picture rather than isolated reasons. It's a give and take.
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  • Soda-88
    10431399 said:
    Call me selfish but damn Intel, I don't care if AMD is laughably behind you, and if perhaps a large percentage of computer users use integrated graphics, place more emphasis on improving processing power :(.
    This is software dev's fault, not AMD's.
    The only incentive you'd want 30% better CPU than the current generation is if you're doing video/3D rendering and that has been the trend for ~5 years now. I own i5 760, which is 3 years old now and there's not a single game on the market that comes even close to being bottlenecked by it. And lastly, the software used by majority of mainstream users (media players, internet browsers, office suites) can be run on today's dual core CPUs used in phones.
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  • danwat1234
    "The new Haswell chips will be built on a smaller manufacturing process". --? Still 22nm as before. Broadwell will be the 14nm shrink.

    I don't think we'll see any significant single core performance increases until the Skylake/Skymont era. Right now Intel is concentrating on GPU performance and integrating voltage regulators (Haswell) and the South Bridge (Broadwell) into the CPU package.
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  • A Bad Day
    fearless1333Call me selfish but damn Intel, I don't care if AMD is laughably behind you, and if perhaps a large percentage of computer users use integrated graphics, place more emphasis on improving processing power .
    Intel's HD 2000-4000 GPUs are no match against AMD's APUs, assuming you don't stick in a single channel 1066 MHz RAM.
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  • A Bad Day
    payturrIt's not a big deal - they don't have to increase performance cause AMD is so behind, if AMD however caught up, I'm sure Intel would have something up their sleeve, but I wouldn't worry. This performance is still decent, especially since its not gonna be a MASSIVE architectural change like Penryn to Nehalem.
    Intel's main competitor is ARM, and they want to capture the tablet/phone market that ARM dominates in.

    And meanwhile, ARM is trying to push into the server market, which is Intel's major money maker.
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  • neon neophyte
    2 generations later and it is no more powerful than sandybridge? it's not conclusive but these benchmarks suggest it

    come on amd, get intel back on its toes
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  • Kamab
    will there be a selection of high end i5/i7 Haswell chips without an IGP? From an enthusiast standpoint it seems like that part of the chip would be a waste.
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