Intel Unveils Full Desktop Coffee Lake Refresh Lineup

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  • ingtar33
    reminder, this refresh is a refresh of a refresh of a refresh.

    the last substantive change to the intel chip design was when they went from broadwell to skylake (and that was mostly to the memory subsystems, the overall design was so close as to almost qualify as a refresh). Every update since has been a "refresh" or a "refresh with more cores". zero progress on node shrink, or design update in almost 4 whole years now, this is like the Pentium 4 days when intel would release revision after revision of the same chip with slightly higher clock speeds or more cores.

    Unlike with the p4 I don't see a new chip design like the core design coming down the pike to break them out of this nonsense.
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  • salgado18
    ingtar33 said:
    reminder, this refresh is a refresh of a refresh of a refresh.

    the last substantive change to the intel chip design was when they went from broadwell to skylake (and that was mostly to the memory subsystems, the overall design was so close as to almost qualify as a refresh). Every update since has been a "refresh" or a "refresh with more cores". zero progress on node shrink, or design update in almost 4 whole years now, this is like the Pentium 4 days when intel would release revision after revision of the same chip with slightly higher clock speeds or more cores.

    Unlike with the p4 I don't see a new chip design like the core design coming down the pike to break them out of this nonsense.
    I disagree on the conclusion. Intel is not dumb. As soon as the first Ryzen models came to market, and caught everyone (including them) by surprise, they probably started development of a new chip architecture. We don't see anything because it takes years to come out with a complete redesign, but I'm sure they are hard at work to come back to the top. If they aren't doing this, the future battles are already lost, because Zen is a very modular, powerful and cool architecture. They need something completely new to stop AMD's growth.
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  • Brian_R170
    Intel website shows the TDP of the Core i9-9900 as 65W. Your table currently shows 95W.

    Edit: I see the table is fixed now, but I wondering if the comment that it will still need "a beefy cooler and motherboard" is valid given that it's locked and limited to 65W.
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  • middcore
    Nothing to see here, folks.
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  • ferncba
    PaulAlcorn said:
    Intel finally unveils its full series of Coffee Lake Refresh processors for the desktop.

    Intel Unveils Full Desktop Coffee Lake Refresh Lineup : Read more
    Core i5-9600K /KF have a TDP of 95W, not 65W.

    Cheers!
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  • mdd1963
    A pretty boring release of several additional processors that should have launched last October... :(
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  • alextheblue
    i7 table is wrong (F model listed as having iGPU, and vice versa).
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  • NightHawkRMX
    I would say I'm still holding out on AMD and Intel.
    AMD was well behind Intel, not releasing 14nm zen chips until 2017. The times have changed. AMD has already launched a couple of 7nm GPUs including the gaming-focused Radeon Vii and other data crunching Instinct GPUs. AMD's current gaming CPUs are based on 12nm and are soon getting an upgrade to 7nm. AMD has already announced 7nm EPYC ROME (what a stupid name) server CPUs.

    Intel has been based on 14nm for ages and these new CPUs are rather uninteresting and quite similar to Skylake chips from 5 years ago.
    It has been 55 months since the 5th of September, 2014 when Intel first announced 14nm CPUs. That is nearly 5 years! Intel has been delaying 10nm ( roughly = to AMD 7nm) for a while with no 10nm CPUs in sight for anytime soon.
    I really hope we have some friendly competition from both teams red and blue.
    http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2014090701_Intel_launches_first_Broadwell_processors.html
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  • Paul Alcorn
    alextheblue said:
    i7 table is wrong (F model listed as having iGPU, and vice versa).

    Thanks for the heads up! Nice to see your comments back on the articles! about time.
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  • Paul Alcorn
    ferncba said:
    Core i5-9600K /KF have a TDP of 95W, not 65W.

    Cheers!

    Thanks for that. Intel's docs for this launch are a bit of a mess, I thought i had caught all of the errors when i made the tables. missed this one, though.
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