AMD Ryzen chief teases return of older Zen 3 chips to fight soaring RAM prices — 'That's something we're actively working on right now'
Bring out your salt shaker for this one, but it's one tasty morsel.
The proverbial news cannon that is CES is firing new products on all barrels, but every now and then, there's a stray remark that makes our ears perk up. In a round-table interview Tom's Hardware attended at CES 2026 in Las Vegas, AMD's David McAfee was discussing the sorry state of the ongoing chip crisis, and he let out a hint that AMD could bring back older AM4 desktop chips, presumably 5000-series Ryzen processors and APUs based on the Zen 3 architecture.
As even non-techies know by now, buying a brand new computer is a prohibitively expensive proposition, thanks mainly to the absurd prices of DDR5 memory. In addition, folks moving from machines that are just four years old will find themselves in the unenviable position of having to buy overpriced memory and a new motherboard on top of that, as the move to DDR5 also implies a socket change for both Intel and AMD chips.
When questioned about the rock-and-hard-place situation these users are in, McAfee stated that AMD "[is] certainly looking at everything that [it] can do to bring more supply and kind of reintroduce products back into the [AM4] ecosystem to satisfy the demands of gamers that maybe want that significant upgrade in their AM4 platform without having to rebuild their entire system", further adding that he thinks this is "definitely something [AMD is] very actively working on."
It should be noted that a remark by one person does not make for a company-wide mission statement, but at least at face value, this move would make full sense for both AMD and customers. Furthermore, the context for the aforementioned statement was that AMD's telemetry obtained through the Adrenalin software corroborated that a significant portion of users are still running 2000- and 3000-series chips.
In addition to that, McAfee noted that many of its retail partners are seeing higher numbers of CPU-only purchases, indicating that shoppers are buying new-old chips to grant a tangible speed boost to their existing machines in these troubled times, where just buying 32 GB of DDR5 memory, a new CPU, and a motherboard will easily bite you for over a grand.
While the scenario described is of someone upgrading just their CPU, older machines will likely have 8 to 16 GB of memory, thus asking for another DIMM or two. DDR4 prices have also been steadily rising, though Samsung has reversed its decision to stop DDR4 production, while SK hynix has reportedly increased DDR4 production at its Wuxi facility. Looks like, for the time being, keeping existing machines going is the only option many enthusiasts will have.
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Jagar123 I have a sibling who is on a 3700x. They aren't going to be paying ludicrous amounts of money for a current gen CPU due to memory prices. If AMD brought back the5800x3d (or 56/5700x3ds) again I know they'd jump on one.Reply -
Shiznizzle Mad. I bought the 5800x 13 months ago in a pre xmas sale on amazon for 130 pounds. At the time every retailer on the planet was dumping AM4 stuff in preparation for AM5's mass uptake by everybody.Reply
I could not afford the new platform so dished out for some top notch AM4 gear at greatly reduced prices. I got the 5800x, an MSI MPG B550 Gaming board and a little later that year the AMD 9060XT 16.
I was moving to linux so needed and wanted an all AMD system. I tried linux gaming on Nvidia and it left a bad taste in my mouth. Yeah it worked but it was a pita.
AM4 was being dumped.
Now i see that the chip i bought for 130 pounds is now up to 200 pounds. The 5800x3d, if you can find one, costs more than the flagship 9800x3d. You could almost buy two of the 9000 series chips for the 5800x3d. MAD
In hind sight i should have bought into AM5 back then and just used two M2 slots instead of two separate machines for linux and windows. But i wanted to keep them separate and have two distinct machines. Well, i do.
Now i have 3 computers sitting on my desk. The back up of the back up. The back up. And an AM5 i scraped together over the last few months.
Had i bought into DDR 5 when it was not so much......150 instead of 75. I paid double. That same kit is now 400
AM4 lives on. I am not selling any of my systems and not moving them on either. It looks like computing for the next 5 years is going to be really expensive so need the machines in case one breaks down -
Gururu If they really wanted to help why don't they 1) make new CPUs that support DDR4, 2) make DDR5 exclusively to sell to end-user, or 3) bundle a free stick of DDR5 16GB with the new CPUs.Reply -
logainofhades ReplyGururu said:If they really wanted to help why don't they 1) make new CPUs that support DDR4, 2) make DDR5 exclusively to sell to end-user, or 3) bundle a free stick of DDR5 16GB with the new CPUs.
AMD doesn't make it's own chips now. They are all done by TSMC, who is pretty much at capacity these days. They do not need to make new CPU's either, just bring back the x3d models. A 5700x3d was often on par with a Ryzen 7 7700, in gaming. That is plenty for the budget crowd, that are probably not going to be running super high end GPU's to begin with. -
Gururu Reply
Well, I didn't mean they would be able to do it for free. Not like they had a part in memory being so hard to get.logainofhades said:AMD doesn't make it's own chips now. They are all done by TSMC, who is pretty much at capacity these days. They do not need to make new CPU's either, just bring back the x3d models. A 5700x3d was often on par with a Ryzen 7 7700, in gaming. That is plenty for the budget crowd, that are probably not going to be running super high end GPU's to begin with. -
Notton If AMD goes through with the idea, my money would be on AMD reprinting Barcelo-R/Cezanne, and not Vermeer.Reply
I wonder if they can get Samsung to make them?
7nm shouldn't be a challenge at this point. -
JaiJai1 im still running the 1700x .. I have used to 5600x, 3900x, 2700, 3400G etc etc and I still dont feel forced to upgrade.. I do want to get the 5950x and pair it with a 9070 xt or 9070 but so far, the 1080 pushes 1440 like nothing and in other games 4k and 60..Reply -
alan.campbell99 Reply
Interesting. I also switched to linux fairly recently. I'm not looking at needing to do so right now but I had been considering going from my RTX 2080 super to an RX which would also mean an all-AMD situation . Having to use proprietary drivers for the nvidia card, is it a different/better situation driver-wise for AMD cards?Shiznizzle said:Mad. I bought the 5800x 13 months ago in a pre xmas sale on amazon for 130 pounds. At the time every retailer on the planet was dumping AM4 stuff in preparation for AM5's mass uptake by everybody.
I could not afford the new platform so dished out for some top notch AM4 gear at greatly reduced prices. I got the 5800x, an MSI MPG B550 Gaming board and a little later that year the AMD 9060XT 16.
I was moving to linux so needed and wanted an all AMD system. I tried linux gaming on Nvidia and it left a bad taste in my mouth. Yeah it worked but it was a pita.
AM4 was being dumped.
Now i see that the chip i bought for 130 pounds is now up to 200 pounds. The 5800x3d, if you can find one, costs more than the flagship 9800x3d. You could almost buy two of the 9000 series chips for the 5800x3d. MAD
In hind sight i should have bought into AM5 back then and just used two M2 slots instead of two separate machines for linux and windows. But i wanted to keep them separate and have two distinct machines. Well, i do.
Now i have 3 computers sitting on my desk. The back up of the back up. The back up. And an AM5 i scraped together over the last few months.
Had i bought into DDR 5 when it was not so much......150 instead of 75. I paid double. That same kit is now 400
AM4 lives on. I am not selling any of my systems and not moving them on either. It looks like computing for the next 5 years is going to be really expensive so need the machines in case one breaks down