ARM-Based Notebooks Are On The Way
Here comes the first wave of notebooks sporting processors based on ARM's architecture.
Unnamed sources are reporting that industry heavyweights Samsung, Toshiba, Acer and Asus are currently working on notebooks using ARM-based processors, one of which is a 13-inch solution from Asus using Nvidia's ARM-based Tegra and Google's Android OS.
But the sources also pointed out that ARM-based notebooks sporting an Android OS hit the market a few years back under the "smartbook" name. These essentially tanked because consumers expected the same compatibility and performance seen with traditional laptops. However, this new round of ARM-based notebooks should be more successful given that the processors are multi-core and storage capacities have inflated. And thanks to the beefed up processing capabilities, these notebooks will have an enhanced user interface.
Given that ARM-based chips are usually more energy efficient than x86 solutions provided by Intel and AMD, industry sources believe that this new line of notebooks will actually create a brand new market segment in the IT industry. ARM-based solutions are generally cheaper too, and will likely bring surprisingly low price tags to these notebooks, possibly $299 or less. Then again, with Windows 8 installed, the price points will be substantially steeper than those with Chrome or Ubuntu installed.
A few weeks ago, ARM chief executive officer Tudor Brown said that Microsoft's upcoming Windows 8 OS – which we saw running on ARM-based SoCs back in January – will actually push its technology into 40-percent of the market's netbooks by 2015. He also estimated that ARM will command 85-percent of the tablet market in that same year.
According to Brown, the combination of Windows 8 and ARM-based processors will seemingly take the emphasis off solving heating problems caused by current (Intel) x86 solutions and drive industry innovation, thus resulting in even lighter, cheaper, and longer lasting battery standards.
Thursday industry sources said that the reported ARM-based notebooks from Samsung, Toshiba, Acer and Asus are expected to arrive possibly by the end of 2011 although Windows 8 models won't hit store shelves until 2012.
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Wish I had invested in ARM....
This is great news...
Cheaper and more power efficient solutions are always better...
So we have Win 8 ARM (a pretty weird MS balancing act if you ask me but..), Android and MeeGo as the added OS incentives for these notebooks.There's also an attempt by Bodhi Linux for an ARM build.
Right in Intel's balls!
I will buy, but only if Window 8 ARM OS can do similar thing as window 7.
All we need is for one of these companies to licence ARM processers, with AMD video, and you would have a really cool notebook.
I could only imagion what it would be like to have a ARM based notebook that was actually cross fire compatible 0.o what would it be used for i wonder?
Wouldn't it be cool if ARM CPU's could work in AM3/AM3+ sockets? ARE YOU LISTENING ARM?
In 5 years, ARM will be suing Intel for bribing the OEMs into not launching their products, and gimping the ones they do. You'll know it when you see that an ARM CPU with 2w TDP cannot beat an Atom or CULV laptop in battery life. Intel fanboys will defend the practice, saying that TDP != battery life, because the ARM chip must be less efficient and have inferior power management.
Once they hit the retail, we'll see if the ARM based offerings can jump the x86 programs fence. If you were to install Win8 with no programs, u'd be better off installing Linux (in any flavor) instead of paying for and OS with no programs to run in.
And don't get me wrong here. I want RISC to make a comeback and drive more innovation around it, but we all know big brother Intel won't make it easy: not on the OEM's and not on the Developers.
Cheers!
this sucks
HOLLY GOD ARE TOMS' READERS MISINFORMED. GO TO FUCKING SCHOOL, PICK UP A BOOK. SO MUCH MINDLESS ADVOCATING FOR SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
FAIL.
Arm is going to fall so hard the moment people realize that each architecture change= no compatibility with older programs. Why do you think the new phones coming out don't just have the A15 which is 50% faster than the A9 arch ARM? Intel will be able to stay ahead with optimization of process and arch...the juggernaut is not going down without a fight.
Arm is going to fall so hard the moment people realize that each architecture change= no compatibility with older programs. Why do you think the new phones coming out don't just have the A15 which is 50% faster than the A9 arch ARM? Intel will be able to stay ahead with optimization of process and arch...the juggernaut is not going down without a fight.
Microsoft has already stated that there will be no compatability issues
I would love to see a Kal El based notebook with Android or any Linux flavor.
Microsoft said no compatability issues? Are we 5 years old? Even going from Win for Workgroups to Win95 caused compatability problems. Going from Win98/ME to Win2k caused compatability issues (move to NT code base). Move from WinXP to Win7 caused compatability issues (hence the XP mode addition). Now moving to a whole new architecture won't cause compatability problems? Hey, I had NT on the Alpha with FX32! and it still had plenty of compatability problems.
Wouldn't it be cool if ARM CPU's could work in AM3/AM3+ sockets? ARE YOU LISTENING ARM?
you're a total retard
As long as they will not equip netbooks with lighter batteries to compensate, I think this might be a good buy! Besides, netbooks are sold for 299, dualcore atom netbooks around 360!
If it has good battery life and you can put linux on it, I might buy. Right now I don't need an Android OS on a computer, cell phone is enough.
With 9w 0ntario, 18w Zacate and 17w Sandy Bridge's, who the heck would want an ARM based computer? AMD is already selling notebooks in the $299 range. I think ARM missed their opportunity to take over that market, it's a bit late now.
GeekApproved = smart. Intel has owned that market for 3 years and it's a falling market. The battery life on those devices is already > 8 hours for most of them and dual core Atom without the Nvidia graphics will give you over 10 hours of battery life and a LOT more power than an Atom CPU for about $300 anyway. You may get an hour extra battery life but no compatability. It's a poor buy. I'm more interested in ARM in the data center. A software-less ARM netbook is basically a tablet.
you're a total retard
you are retarding totalling!
ARM based notebooks are interesting and the pricing is very similar to netbooks, I believe these ARM based notebooks will be a game changer especially when Windows 8 is released.
I hope to see ARM based notebooks with Nvidia’s upcoming Kal-El.
With 9w 0ntario, 18w Zacate and 17w Sandy Bridge's, who the heck would want an ARM based computer? AMD is already selling notebooks in the $299 range. I think ARM missed their opportunity to take over that market, it's a bit late now.
I don't think your realize how efficient ARM architecture is.
Even 9W is still 5 times the max power consumption of current 1GHz dual core Cortex A9 based SOCs... and those are nowhere near 5 times slower.
maybe Apple should using ARM instead of Intel x86 for their Macbook after they drop their own chip , i dislike Apple products since they switch to Intel base
This ...
Once they hit the retail, we'll see if the ARM based offerings can jump the x86 programs fence. If you were to install Win8 with no programs, u'd be better off installing Linux (in any flavor) instead of paying for and OS with no programs to run in.And don't get me wrong here. I want RISC to make a comeback and drive more innovation around it, but we all know big brother Intel won't make it easy: not on the OEM's and not on the Developers.Cheers!
And this ...
If it has good battery life and you can put linux on it, I might buy. Right now I don't need an Android OS on a computer, cell phone is enough.
Plus this ...
Arm is going to fall so hard the moment people realize that each architecture change= no compatibility with older programs. Why do you think the new phones coming out don't just have the A15 which is 50% faster than the A9 arch ARM? Intel will be able to stay ahead with optimization of process and arch...the juggernaut is not going down without a fight.
Not so much this ...
I don't think your realize how efficient ARM architecture is.Even 9W is still 5 times the max power consumption of current 1GHz dual core Cortex A9 based SOCs... and those are nowhere near 5 times slower.
When companies make claims like this ...
... they are delusional and have been drinking too much of the Jen-Hsun Huang Kool-Aid.
will arm chips have enough power to run windows smoothly? I'm core 2 duo + vista and it ain't great
I'd wager that this news sent some Intel employees on a panic mode.