Rockstar Used Myth DRM Crack For Max Payne 2?

The creators of the crack should sue them for pirating their code. Now *that* would be funny.

Dead simple. The games has been realized long ago and Rock Star didn't wanted to take much time to release this game to Steam. Recompiling the program would have needed to setup a compiling environment, and check the executable for defects. Instead, they already had the fix right under hand and they new it was working as there was no known issue for this no-cd. Why not use it then?

Agreed.

Heh

In their shoes, I'd do the same thing. But I think I'd take the care to take out the comment lines and ascii logos.

Lets face it, pirating is great for the developers. And can sometimes lead to sales that would have never happened in the first place.

The DRM-less version of Arcanum on GOG uses Fairlight's crack (publ: Activision).

It's likely that a lot of the games on GOG use cracks. I doubt that GOG are putting them in there, it's just that the publishers find this easier than removing the DRM themselves. In many cases they probably don't have the source for many older games, most of which require DRM removal to work as downloadable titles.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm choking to death on the irony and need medical assistance.

I don't see anything wrong with it, as long as they made sure it was virus free.

I think there shouldn't be drm in the first place though, it just satisfies a part of the corporate guys feelings.

The hacking groups should go after these companies with bills for "services rendered" to remove the protection.

Laziness. When devs do that, they`re legitimizing the work of the crackers, who shouldn`t have to do all that work anyway. Kill the DRM. Cooperation always beats competition.

This is hilarious and shows how much code stealing goes on in this industry! They just didn't even take the time though to rip out the ASCII logo which is just sad. I wonder if this was the advice of their lawyers to leave their code alone to avoid being dealt a lawsuit from MYTH programmers. Having said all this, I wonder now if these development studio's don't appreciate the hard work the (ok I am old school) crackers do for them. Especially the No-CD cracks which were a favorite of mine even when I had bought the game.

Considering that the developer would have lost money due to illegal copying of their copyrighted work and would never recover this money from those prosecuted for enabling such activity, it seems fair to me that they now use the work done by those crackers to help them sell more product, ie. recover their money. That doesn't mean a free for all by the developers to go out and use code "suspected" of being used for illegal activity. It would be a long winded argument but I think you all get my drift. Re to DRM or not DRM I'll leave to others to debate. I have my views and I think it needs to be improved and somewhere between nothing and draconian.

Having no cracking/hacking experience. Would it be possible to have a no-cd crack setup to reactivate the DRM if it was ever discovered to be used by a company trying to sell their software with the crack installed?

I.E. Discover a company is using "your" crack in order to make profit from a their game. You then "reactivate" the DRM through some "hack" in your original crack.

I'd just find it a little humorous if something like this happened. Reverse cracking a game.

Personally I think the companies should not be doing this, all they are doing is imitating they're "enemies" and personally I think it's even more morally wrong than pirating it in the first place, as your now PAYING for a non legit version.

I'm pretty ........ that companies are starting to do this.

So pirating the pirates is immoral ? Reloded, Myth and other scene groups are working hard for thouse cracks, they should at least more publicity out of that !

Oh the irony...

now if somone's house is raided byt the police like that guy from Gizmodo and charged with piracy, he'll be laughed at when trying to excuse himself

- "but, it's the producers of the game that put the crack in it, it wasn't me!"

-"Hahahah, yeah right, kid. You think we were born yesterday?"

-"But, but..."

-"Shut up, you're under arrest"

-"Help! I'm inside a Kafkian process! Help!"

Since when does applying a nocd hack equate to piracy. As long as it's legally being sold and purchased.

Unless you're referring to the fact that Rockstar games most likely did not pay Myth for their software?

seeing as they are essentially selling someone elses code, and not giving them credit, there are some legal issues here.

as far as a company using a nocd crack for their digitally distributed game... that's the reason i buy games this way... O_o

what about no drm games and we forget all of this cracks

doesnt this mean to an extent that the original creators of these cracks are due some $$$

it was their code that was used...

lawsuit?????

Haha lazy, but it's cool.

That screen shot is not making sense. haha. Very nicely done Rockstar.

"If you're going to do something wrong... DO IT RIGHT."

Rockstar didn't.

At the very least, it is a violation of the game's EULA since that normally prohibits modification of the game's executables.

Then, if a DRM is bypassed, it's a violation under the DMCA, which is usually interpreted as an attempt in piracy.

Haha how a ironic... DRM double-edged sword! The company themselves (namely the coder who did it) is guilty of actions violating the DMCA: I've had to serve clients with DMCA notices; it's HILARIOUS to watch a Dr. that makes $~350K/yr cower in front of me, then suddenly start making up excuses like a teenager, staring up at me and my clipboard w/ the huge mono-block, black "DMCA NOTICE OF OFFENSE" about to humiliate him...

PIRATES!

Awesome comments.




Agreed. You are actually paying for someone else's work. On the other hand, maybe Rockstar left the myth tag on purpose, crediting them for their lazyness. Still like Gin said, it looks morally bad. It won't be any surprise when games like MW2, BC2, Crysis saga and some others get old, we'll see them as cheap digital downloads with DRM's scheme circumvented by other scene releases work like PROCYON, RELOADED, SKIDROW, Razor1911, etc.

Why waste perfectly good work.

And a no-cd fix might not always be legal but it isn't piracy.
It's true that more people use them for pirated copies, but a lot of paying customers might use them as well.

You wouldn’t steal a car.
You wouldn’t steal a handbag.
You wouldn’t steal a mobile phone.
You wouldn’t steal a DVD.
Downloading pirated **films/games** is stealing.
Stealing is against the law.
Piracy: it’s a crime.

**Stealing someone else's code is a crime.

lol.. the irony.

Who is the pirate now hmmmmm, it was only a matter time before someone would find this and report it. Double standards....

Haha best comment all day.
I think its halarious that they use the pirates coding.I guess they figured since they made it to crack they;'re game.They got the right to it,which it think they do?

anyways this is pretty funny though.Cool little tid bit to read.

I remember a friend quoting the commercial, "would you steal a handbag? Yes. Would you steal a car? Yes." I only follow laws I believe in anyways.

Lazy, but hey, it works. I just hope no one gets fired over it.
No-cd cracks are awesome.

EULA=End user license agreement. Since the crack wasn't applied by the end user, how could the EULA be violated?
Bypassing your own DRM could be considered for DCMA violation lawsuit only in case you sued yourself (unlikely unless you're a moron).