China: Google Should Obey Rules When Leaving
With the news that Google is nearly 100 percent sure about its decision to leave the Chinese search market, China has said the search company will still have to abide by Chinese law, even if it does leave.
Last week, referring to Google's plans to uncensor search results, China's Minister of Industry and Information Technology, Li Yizhong, told reporters, "If you don't respect Chinese laws, you are unfriendly and irresponsible, and the consequences will be on you." Then, on Sunday, a report citing people familiar with the situation said Google's plans to leave China were 99.9 percent certain.
Today, a spokesperson for the Ministry of Commerce said Google should follow the rules, even if it does decide to pull out of China. "On entering the Chinese market in 2007, it clearly stated that it would respect Chinese law," Reuters quotes spokesman, Yao Jian, as saying. "We hope that whether Google Inc continues operating in China or makes other choices, it will respect Chinese legal regulations," Yao continued. "Even if it pulls out, it should handle things according to the rules and appropriately handle remaining issues," he said.
Yao went on to say that the rules he was referring to included reporting Commerce Ministry about plans to pull out. Google said yesterday it has not concluded its talks with the Chinese authorities but said it was adamant about not censoring its results.
Read Reuter's full report here.
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Google should by a bunch of retired Russian ICBMs complete with warheads just in case.
So should Google have known about the censorship issues before entering China? In this case Google shouldn't have even started to be involved with China if it didn't like the rules.
What exactly are the consequences if Google just drops its search engine into China and leaves it 100% uncensored. What exactly can China do?
Just curious.
I am sure Google will respect China's rules when the Chinese learn to respect western road rules... i.e: never.
If Google pulls out of China and do not comply with their laws, what exactly could China do to Google apart from huff and puff?
A fine? Good luck with that if they aren't there anymore.
Shut the business down? They already left.
All that's left is sending the triads to whack them...
...oh, hang on, that's actually feasible, Google should comply...
What rules do they have to follow if they're just leaving? It seems like google is mad and they're just gonna leave and say F*** China. What laws are involved in this?
What exactly are the consequences if Google just drops its search engine into China and leaves it 100% uncensored. What exactly can China do?Just curious.
Block all access to google.com. That would kill all of their ad revenues, and China is a big market. Google is messing with the bull and is about to get the horns.
What exactly are the consequences if Google just drops its search engine into China and leaves it 100% uncensored. What exactly can China do?Just curious.
It may take all of China's lawyers to define and put a price on free thought in order to sue Google.
Can't we get all our plastic junk made in another developing country?
So should Google have known about the censorship issues before entering China? In this case Google shouldn't have even started to be involved with China if it didn't like the rules.
Because hackers from China stole their source code. It's not like they are going after hackers in China hardcore.
Google should make all Google.cn search results just return a picture of the Dictator Hu Jintao.
I'd be irritated if a Chinese company came to the USA and disregarded our rules. I mean, I'm certainly not a fan of censorship but what Google is doing isn't right.
I'd be irritated if a Chinese company came to the USA and disregarded our rules. I mean, I'm certainly not a fan of censorship but what Google is doing isn't right.
Chinese companies don't have to come here to disregard our rules. Lead in the paint of your toys. Pet food that kills your pets.
so, China is trying to create a world of their own
Communism SUCKS!
Censorship is wrong, and with Google's "Do no harm" (Though they may arguably be doing harm in other areas) I believe that if they were to comply and censor their search results that it would be to the detriment to the Chinese society. I'm glad they're fighting this, but I don't see any sort of common ground for China and Google.
The Chinese expect everyone ELSE to play by the rules.
Their state-sponsored hacking into the Fortune 500 is beyond reproach. They claim "we know nothing", but they have the lid clamped down so tight in that country that a byte doesn't leave without them knowing. You see, they know what dissidents inside their own country say and do all the time... but not their hackers?
It is so funny to sit here and see people say I would be mad if they were in our country and did not obey the rules but the fact is that Google was obeying the rules. It was China who criminally hacked Google and stole their property! What a bunch of hypocrites to say Google must obey the rules and respect the rules when they don't do any of those things. Look at the facts people! This is like someone breaking in your house stealing your things and then when you alert the authorities they tell you to keep obeying the law and apologize to the thief. China needs to go down for this! Boycott Made in China.
I don't know why people are taking China's side on this. China criminally hacked Google and stole their property and then tells Google to obey the law! What a bunch of hypocrites! Why do people just pretend this is just Google suddenly deciding to go against the law of China for no reason? Google was obeying the law no problem until they were attacked!
chinese hacker hack into google? I through google is unhackable.
Nuke before it is too late.
It may take all of China's lawyers to define and put a price on free thought in order to sue Google.Can't we get all our plastic junk made in another developing country?
The right path is not easy.
china will grow larger....
Although I disagree with communism, I also disagree with racism. Honestly, when companies from other countries entering US market, isn't that these companies also have to comply US's law? Let's say a country allows public porn but obviously "formal US Law" doesn't allow, US has the right to NOT licensing legal to this company to do business in US??? So what's so wrong with this???
Another example is, let's say if some of the US cars cannot pass the emission tests in some countries in Europe, these European governments disallow them to be sold in these countries, it sounds understandable to all of us.
Then why this Google-China case?!
China to Google: all your base are belong to us
But these other countries don't illegaly steal from companies that enter their country. The Chinese government stole from google and I am glad google is standing up to them.
Then why this Google-China case?!
The main difference is that if those companies don't get licensed to to operate in the US or those US cars can't pass emissions tests neither of those things are going to be in response to those respective countries trying to break into the company data centers to steal private information about users.
Google decided it was done complying with Chinese censorship law when China decided to break into Google's systems.
I hope they do leave China because it will be a lot safer for the rest of us if they don't have a data center physically in China making it easier for them to potential break into any other Google systems around the world.
Thing is, Google knew about the censorship deal and played by it without a peep until that account got hacked. Then, all of a sudden re-gained it's spine and started the anti-censorship thing.
By all means, I don't agree with censorship in any form. But, if you get into the trough, expect to get eaten by the pigs.
china will grow larger....
Ha, C&C Generals...
Sounds like they are warming up the collective of hackers to take another swing at Google.
We have kinetic weapons if all else fails.
this is rather rediculous. on the one hand, no company has the right to disobey Chinese law. But on the other hand, messengers are allowed in China and can expose people to a large variety of things that are probably illegal there. Chinese people aren't easily sheltered anyway I'm sure their culture is not anywhere near being completely clean. there's just way too many people living there, can't police it all.
I don't like their rules...but you have to play by them if you want to play, PERIOD. If their laws give them the power to exploit/control any person/business, Google should have known this. Yes, it is wrong to be hacked and be told to QQ, but that's how things are ran in China. I feel sorry for Google and personally hate China's civil laws, but I don't want to see another Tiananmen Square Massacre..