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LG Seeks Ban For Samsung's Galaxy Note 10.1 Tablet

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Samsung had sued LG for its displays lacking innovation.

Continuing the ongoing legal battles between the two technology companies, LG is seeking a ban for Samsung's Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet.

An injunction filed today by LG details the firm's plan to ban Samsung's Galaxy Note 10.1 in Korea. The former alleges that the tablet's display panel infringes on certain patents it owns. LG said it filed the suit over Samsung's utilization of OLED displays.

The patents in question relates to the viewing technology used in OLED displays. The tech helps consumers better view the screen from any angle. As well as seeking a sales ban for the Galaxy Note 10.1, LG is also demanding damages of $933,000 each day in the event of "continued non-compliance".

Back in September, LG filed a patent lawsuit against Samsung, claiming the South Korean technology giant violated seven of its OLED patents. The latter meanwhile, filed its own suit against LG in November in hopes to invalidate the patents in question as they "lack innovation".

 

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    Mhawk13 , December 28, 2012 8:22 PM
    These patent wars is just bad for humanity as a whole.
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    kracker , December 28, 2012 8:12 PM
    uhh... LOL is all I can say.
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    Mhawk13 , December 28, 2012 8:22 PM
    These patent wars is just bad for humanity as a whole.
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    whiteodian , December 28, 2012 8:46 PM
    $933,000 a day. I doubt they are selling that much worth of those specific products in a day.
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    nuvon , December 28, 2012 8:47 PM
    If LG is lack of innovation, why still use it, Samsung?
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    halcyon , December 29, 2012 12:01 AM
    ^I guess we all like different things. I've had multiple Samsung phones and now with my Note 2 I'm totally stoked. I love the phone and for me there's nothing else I'd rather use. If Samsung does indeed release a device with a high-resolution flexible AMOLED display (I can't imagine that but my imagination doesn't run too deep) then the haters will say it's junk and that they didn't really innovate. LOL. Just LOL.

    As far as existing products, exactly what device is better than the S3 offering the combination of:

    A superior display
    Removable, expandable storage
    A replaceable battery
    Gorilla Glass
    Fast processor and graphics

    Some devices have some of these things but I can't think of any that have all of them like the S3 and Note II...and to me...that's innovative.

    HTC? Nope. For some reason they don't believe in removable storage or batteries in even their premium products. The DNA, nice as its display is and as fast as it is purported to be lacks decent battery life and they don't even mitigate that by offering a replaceable battery. Is having an anorexic looking phone that important? I guess so to some.

    All manufacturers have a few bad apples, even Apple (their iPhone 5 leaves A LOT to be desired in my book and I really like Apple products, generally), but I've not had any problems with the multiple Samsung phones I've had. ...and for those that feel the S3's popularity is undeserved, please describe what is better and why.
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    panini , December 29, 2012 12:15 AM
    wemakeourfutureSamsung lacks any type of major innovation as a company.The biggest contribution they have really brought the mobile and tablet space if you really look at things is the phablet (Note). On the software side they have made some incremental improvements to the Android OS, but if you look to Samsung to be a major innovator and change markets that's not going to happen.Samsung can fab processors, are they fully able to replace ARM or Intel architecture with their R&D, of course not.Samsung can make phones, can they bring some so drastic to the market place like the first iPhone, of course not. They can take a great idea like touch phones and run with it, but not produce anything of substance.Can they build a major mobile OS? Bada is junk, but they can make incremental improvements to Android.


    Wow. As much as I want to disagree with this I can't. I think the S3's success is mainly due to its advertising. There are very similar phones out there like the Optimus G not getting nearly enough attention…
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    halcyon , December 29, 2012 12:33 AM
    otacon72Who isn't suing Samsung these days.

    When you're on top....
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    Anonymous , December 29, 2012 12:34 AM
    @wemakeourfuture: actually samsung have been designing and building chips for a lot longer than phones. their arm chips are quite good and something many dont know - much samsung developed technology is used in apple products, although apple are trying to replace those bits with their own tech these days. as much as samsung may not not come to mind as huge market innovators, they do develop quite a lot of original tech.
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    wemakeourfuture , December 29, 2012 1:05 AM
    antus@wemakeourfuture: actually samsung have been designing and building chips for a lot longer than phones. their arm chips are quite good and something many dont know - much samsung developed technology is used in apple products, although apple are trying to replace those bits with their own tech these days. as much as samsung may not not come to mind as huge market innovators, they do develop quite a lot of original tech.


    This I am quite aware of. The chips that power their phones are not ones they have architecture.

    They do what Apple and other companies do, take the ARM architecture, pay the licensing, then make modifications with their Engineering team to tailor it to their needs. They do not do the heavy R&D, ARM Holdings does.
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    wemakeourfuture , December 29, 2012 1:20 AM
    halcyon^I guess we all like different things. I've had multiple Samsung phones and now with my Note 2 I'm totally stoked. I love the phone and for me there's nothing else I'd rather use. If Samsung does indeed release a device with a high-resolution flexible AMOLED display (I can't imagine that but my imagination doesn't run too deep) then the haters will say it's junk and that they didn't really innovate. LOL. Just LOL. As far as existing products, exactly what device is better than the S3 offering the combination of:A superior displayRemovable, expandable storageA replaceable batteryGorilla GlassFast processor and graphicsSome devices have some of these things but I can't think of any that have all of them like the S3 and Note II...and to me...that's innovative.HTC? Nope. For some reason they don't believe in removable storage or batteries in even their premium products. The DNA, nice as its display is and as fast as it is purported to be lacks decent battery life and they don't even mitigate that by offering a replaceable battery. Is having an anorexic looking phone that important? I guess so to some.All manufacturers have a few bad apples, even Apple (their iPhone 5 leaves A LOT to be desired in my book and I really like Apple products, generally), but I've not had any problems with the multiple Samsung phones I've had. ...and for those that feel the S3's popularity is undeserved, please describe what is better and why.


    The S3 is an awesome phone, don't get me wrong, but its not innovate.

    Everything you mentioned in the S3 is basically in the S2 just its an update with the current available processors. There's nothing innovate about it. If you told me it had a camera on the front and could detect motions outside of touching to the screen, to me that classifies as innovation.


    A superior display: Its resolution was nothing breathtaking, and its PPI was lower than existing smartphones that already sold tens of millions at the time.

    Removable, expandable storage: this existed before, nothing special, the Galaxy S had this.

    A replaceable battery: same as above, Galaxy S had this.

    Gorilla Glass: same as above, Galaxy S had this.

    Fast processor and graphics: They did a refresh, nothing beyond what


    Let's not confuse incremental improvements with innovation.


    If the S4 has a bendable screen, yes that's innovation, since there's no product with such a display. If it is the same ol' display just 1080p that's not innovation.

    If the S4 is using completely new materials for its battery and is getting 2-4X capacity than competitors, that's innovation, not putting a replaceable battery that my 1990's Nokia could do, and the original Galaxy could do too.
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    halcyon , December 29, 2012 4:30 AM
    @WeMakeOurFuture

    I believe Samsung innovated by tying all those qualities together in one product. Just because the S3 may not be the innovative product doesn't mean the S2 wasn't innovative...or the S before that. The AMOLED was innovative even if it didn't have the highest ppi. Just because Apple didn't innovate with the iPhone 5 doesn't mean the iPhone wasn't innovative (see what I did there).
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    noob2222 , December 29, 2012 6:49 AM
    so LG's patent is allowing a screen to be viewed at any angle? I thought you could do that with CRT screens a long time ago.

    As for LG ... http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57473852-92/six-lg-display-workers-charged-with-stealing-samsung-tech/

    so ... whose tech is it really?
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    tigger888 , December 29, 2012 7:56 AM
    what makes me laugh is how seriously these guys and these idiot lawyers take themselves. not 900,000, not 1,000,000 but 933,000..... they probably had a very serious discussion drawing up these numbers, all proper with suits and ties... clowns.
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    kristi_metal , December 29, 2012 9:07 AM
    Probably a giant brainstorming meeting to come up with 933,000 USD.
    Anyway, now i see that the Android group (Samsung, LG, Google, etc) starts sueing each other, thought they were united by Google against Apple, but when it comes down to money, they start fighting. Divide and conquer.
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    halcyon , December 29, 2012 9:25 AM
    ^With Samsung being number 1 and all the other kids are mad and want some of the pie too. If HTC and LG work together just maybe....
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    Friis , December 29, 2012 11:27 AM
    theres nothing innovative in phones anymore if you break it down to its just a phone with a touch screen and 2 camaras, can be charged with usb and have 1 storage device (some can have an extra)

    and isn't this a phone for the last several years?
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    wemakeourfuture , December 29, 2012 1:05 PM
    halcyon@WeMakeOurFutureI believe Samsung innovated by tying all those qualities together in one product. Just because the S3 may not be the innovative product doesn't mean the S2 wasn't innovative...or the S before that. The AMOLED was innovative even if it didn't have the highest ppi. Just because Apple didn't innovate with the iPhone 5 doesn't mean the iPhone wasn't innovative (see what I did there).


    The major innovation of the iPhone was the first one. Changing the landscape of the mobile market. Now finger touch smartphones are the norm. This was the innovation of the iPhone, all subsequent iPhones posses little innovation afterwards. People thought having such a huge display and draining the battery after a single day was ridiculous now its the norm. Cellphones used to routinely last 2-4 days on a single charge. But the iPhone with its large touch display changed the game. Sure having ultra-hi PPI (retina) and a few other features were a huge plus for consumers but that wasn't the innovation. The Galaxy line and other Samsung mobile products do not poses such innovation, aside from the phablet which brought something new in the market as I mentioned previously.

    The Galaxy S was not innovate at all. When it came out in 2010 there was nothing special about it compared to the competition.

    The Galaxy S2 was also the same. The S3 was as a whole better than the competition, but that's like saying Dell just came out with a better laptop than the competition right now, that's not technological innovation, just providing a good product for the price. It did not change the mobile market at all.
    These are great products, I recommend them as the best Android smartphone but in terms of technological game changing innovation, sorry there's nothing there with the Galaxy lineup.

    You are right about AMOLED, Samsung has taken the lead in this technology, OLED were used years and years before Samsung in handheld devices.

    Also, as for AMOLED, the Galaxy Line was NOT the first smartphone to use this technology.

    Other smartphones used AMOLED before the Galaxy S was released.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Droid_Incredible

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Desire

    Just to name some.


    If you want to say AMOLED were manufactured first by Samsung and provided to other companies, that I can say is innovation (if it is true), but to say Galaxy phones were innovate since they used AMOLED first, that isn't the case.
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    falchard , December 29, 2012 6:13 PM
    Samsung and LG own alot of the OLED and display related patents. These patents are very detailed on process so it is unlikely that they will have any generic patents. They are direct competitors in the display market and are relatively close to each other, so there is some reason to assume that engineers who have worked at both companies have used tech they already developed for their competitor. I don't really find Samsung infringing on these patents surprising as I would not be surprised if Western Digital infringed on Seagate patents. I think considering their employee makeup and proximity they should form licensing agreements with each other. However, this will most likely result in large anti-competitive suits in the European Union as they control 80% of the display panel market.
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    ozbrown , December 29, 2012 10:23 PM
    Without innovation, even if small, as things would not develop. Remember we moved from transistors to IC to complex IC performing task to be a CPU.. these where gradual innovations in each step.. The Mobile phone has been growing the same each release has been an innovation on the past model to add more functions, speed, usefulness and now we have a tablet which is a computer to do all our tasks....

    The first Smartphone I had was in 2003 with a touch screen...HP made... then along came Apple saying they have a new Smartphone with iPhone... well it was a step on the way of smartphones that where around at the time... so innovation is good and will be done by the next smartphone/Tablet we are yet to see.

    All I can say is keep up the innovation, as in the end we all win .. the users.. us, you and me :)  as we get faster, clearer, last longer, etc... devices

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