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Rage Mod Tools Coming Soon, Says Carmack

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John Carmack hasn't forgotten about the Rage modders waiting patiently for their toolset.

id Software's John Carmack has finally provided an update as to when modders will finally get their hands on a toolset for Rage. The post-apocalyptic shooter was supposed to ship with modding tools when it arrived on the Windows PC platform last October. Now, a year later, there's still no sign of the promised toolset.

"BFG work pushed the Rage tools, but Real Soon Now. I hope. Sigh. I think we have made poor decisions on this all year," Carmack said via Twitter.

The BFG Edition of Doom 3 launched just over a week ago, bringing with it tweaks, revisions, and a set of new single-player missions. At its heart, Doom 3 still remains the same although the pacing seems a little faster – and definitely brighter – than the original 2004 release. The console version received the biggest facelift, transitioning from the outdated Xbox graphics to a more PC-like modernized appearance for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.

But now the studio's focus has likely shifted entirely over to Doom 4. As Joystiq points out, the studio had better crank out the Rage tools soon before they get too engrossed in pushing the fourth Doom title onto the Oculus Rift headset. Later down the road the team may be less likely to make time for an outdated shooter and a forgotten modding toolset.

 

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    panini , October 29, 2012 4:44 AM
    More companies need to release modding tools. It's what really sets apart PC from consoles. Not the graphics; those will always get better when the consoles get better. But one thing that MSFT and SONY will never let happen to their consoles is to let people tinker with the code.

    I didn't buy Skyrim on PC for better graphics, I bought it for mods.
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    SirGCal , October 29, 2012 5:47 AM
    I disagree. I buy games for the graphics. Consoles can't do 144Hz (FPS) like my rig or many people's 120Hz. And that's one thing that is important to me, especially in shooters. And most people say when you play on 120+, you can easily tell going back to 60. But that argument aside even, PCs are capable of doing a lot MORE (AA, etc.) then the decade old consoles who refuse to update because 'they still sell'. So it still looks better on the PC while keeping smoother graphics. And games (like Skyrim) are intentionally nerfed to keep them smooth on the consoles in the graphics department (and some games in other areas also). But again, that's ANOTHER topic.

    As for the modding, that's another PC feature I LOVE. I played Oblivion forever because of the cool mods I could do. I still play Baulder's Gate 2 because of the new mods and levels people create are so intelligent and sometimes shockingly well done. Manufacturers should really be looking to the best of these people and offering them jobs, at least contracts, for another installment.

    As for Rage, I never bought it because the reviewers that I actually trust all gave it bad reviews. If none of them liked it, I don't need to look at it. (and some of my friends that did buy it, I heard their complaints of texture pop-in problems, etc. as well as a pretty stale story or something to that effect. It's been a year...) But now that it's got a mod pack coming out, I might pick it up then. So in that situation, they might get a customer they otherwise never would have had. So that could be a very good thing for them. But I do agree, it should have come out since the start. Then they might have had a customer at the original price, or shortly after, instead of the now almost give-away price.
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    mouse24 , October 29, 2012 6:02 AM
    Haven't read your whole post but based on

    "I disagree. I buy games for the graphics. "

    You are whats wrong with the gaming industry today. Copy/paste same script with new graphics and bing bang bosh its all the rage (intended pun)
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    SirGCal , October 29, 2012 6:07 AM
    mouse24Haven't read your whole post but...


    No YOU are what's wrong... Try READING my entire post... Wow. You have NO reason to criticize ANYTHING, topic, person, etc. without reading/learning all parts of the discussion/argument. YOU are the problem.
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    darkchazz , October 29, 2012 6:45 AM
    I have bought RAGE for $10 on steam summer sale, and I still haven't finished it yet. I don't even plan to launch it again.
    Just says how boring this game is...
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    SirGCal , October 29, 2012 6:52 AM
    darkchazzI have bought RAGE for $10 on steam summer sale, and I still haven't finished it yet. I don't even plan to launch it again.Just says how boring this game is...


    And that's the other point to my initial post. My friends that bought it all said similar things.
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    abbadon_34 , October 29, 2012 7:14 AM
    Let's hope something good comes of this
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    fuzzion , October 29, 2012 7:51 AM
    Someone remake Doom I and II with rage mod engine. Instant winner.
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    tjosborne , October 29, 2012 8:04 AM
    lame game imho, who cares at this point?
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    cats_Paw , October 29, 2012 8:12 AM
    I agree with most of the posting. The game was boring, so mod tools might help, but wont make it crazy good.

    I watched some gameplay of this game n youtube, and that was neought to ignore it. Sad, that a pioneer like carmack and with todays crazy grapics quality created a game that i had simply no interest in.
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    Pennanen , October 29, 2012 8:19 AM
    mouse24Haven't read your whole post but based on"I disagree. I buy games for the graphics. "You are whats wrong with the gaming industry today. Copy/paste same script with new graphics and bing bang bosh its all the rage (intended pun)

    You are whats wrong with gaming industry. You are holding us back with your consoles and slow computer.
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    Azimuth01 , October 29, 2012 10:40 AM
    Why did they wait so long to release mod tools for this game?
    It would have been better to release the tools when the game was still popular. That way the community would have been able to build a foundation. This is like adding a foundation after the walls are up....it just doesn't work. Too little too late comes to mind.
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    john_4 , October 29, 2012 11:53 AM
    Sorry Carmack but all the rage is gone from Rage.
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    rantoc , October 29, 2012 1:05 PM
    Cats_PawSad, that a former pioneer like carmack and with todays crazy grapics quality created a game that i had simply no interest in.


    Fixed it! Carmack is skilled but have hardly pressed the latest hardware to the maximum but rather stay at the 6 years old console hardware level and optimized the gfx for them. He was a true pioneer when making Doom + Quake that really pushed the bar higher with the latest tech.
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    ssd_pro , October 29, 2012 1:07 PM
    I dropped a raging deuce in my undies today too... this should get a writeup.
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    Kami3k , October 29, 2012 2:00 PM
    mouse24Haven't read your whole post but based on"I disagree. I buy games for the graphics. "You are whats wrong with the gaming industry today. Copy/paste same script with new graphics and bing bang bosh its all the rage (intended pun)


    Actually YOU ARE what is wrong withe industry.

    I have a computer that is capable of so much more, but because of consoles, Crysis 1 still has some of the best graphics out there, if not best still with some of the graphic mods out there. Haven't played Crysis 2, dumbed down and crippled console games are another problem with the industry.

    And that is just pathetic since that game came out 5 years ago. I should be able to easily see the difference between that game and today, and you really can't.

    On to the article, a year later is far too late for me to care. The game sucked, though I saw through the hype and knew it would.
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    Vorador2 , October 29, 2012 2:07 PM
    Well, i bought Rage on launch despite negative reviews and common sense, and i actually had fun. Graphically was very underwhelming, with washed out textures, but it was quite long at 20 hours aprox and gameplay was solid. Too bad about the ending, that one really sucked.

    But i have nothing to come back to. Unless they've fixed the textures, which i think they didn't.
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    bystander , October 29, 2012 3:25 PM
    BigMack70John Carmack lost the ability to make good games after Quake 3; he and Id software are irrelevant and get far too much credibility for what they produce these days.

    John Carmack's great achievement was creating the first 3D 1st person gaming engine and his first few games were ground breaking as a result. Now that everyone can create great 3D gaming engine, you can see that his creative side isn't special.
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    DirectXtreme , October 29, 2012 4:45 PM
    bystanderJohn Carmack's great achievement was creating the first 3D 1st person gaming engine and his first few games were ground breaking as a result. Now that everyone can create great 3D gaming engine, you can see that his creative side isn't special.

    Not only that but Id relinquished their old formula that made their games so fun and special - release an FPS that is fast-paced, unrealistic, linear with multiple ways or methods to reach the end point, not overly complicated, allows the user to modify its content, and pushes the PC hardware. They did this in order to stay relevant in the current era, which is dominated by slower, consolized FPS games. Doom 3 was the beginning of this transition, and RAGE... well I think Bethesda had something to do with its open world.
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    coolronz , October 29, 2012 7:56 PM
    i didnt mind RAGE, alot like Quake 4 in some ways.. mindless fun.... but toolset? little too little and little too late.. if i want to EYEfinity i have to turn off CROSSFIRE... and if i want to CROSSFIRE my HD7970s i have to single screen it... took almost a year to work the bugs out of it graphicly then driver issues... the last thing PC owners need is a buggy toolset.... ID used to be an innovator, now they just make buggy eyecandy... dont get me wrong tho i still enjoyed RAGE, was a fun bargin bin title :) 
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