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Qualcomm Details the Next-Gen Snapdragons

By - Source: Tom's Hardware US | B 25 comments

It's going to be an exciting couple of years for Qualcomm.

Over the last year, 1GHz CPUs in smartphones have become more than normal. If someone had told us in 2007 that we'd soon be scoffing over a smartphone with anything less than 1GHz under the hood, we'd have told him or her that they were crazy. Still, two or three years is a lifetime in the technology industry and here we are, living in a world where we can not only scoff at anything less than 1GHz, but realistically look to the future where chip manufacturers are working hard to bring us clock-speeds higher than 1GHz.

Furthering our tendencies toward smartphone snobbery, Qualcomm this week briefed tech analysts on its roadmap for the next couple of years, and boy, are we excited. First up are two 1.2 GHz dual-core CPUs. AnandTech reports that these two SoCs (codenamed MSM8260 and 8660) will pack two Scorpion cores and an Adreno 205 GPU on a single 45nm die. The 8260 will feature support for HSPA+, while the 8660 also includes HSPA+ support along with CDMA2000 and 1xEV-DO Rev. B.

Exciting as these dual-core chips are, the SoC that has everyone talking is the next generation Snapdragon, the MSM8960. The MSM8960 will boast two next-generation processor cores, which Qualcomm claims will give 5x the performance of the original Snapdragon chip and a 75 percent reduction in power consumption. The company also talked about beefing up the graphics, with numbers like ~4x improvement in graphics performance.

Read more about Qualcomm's plans for Snapdragon on Anandtech.

*Image via AnandTech

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    soulfringe , November 20, 2010 2:17 AM
    God say it isn't true ! I have had serious consideration for picking up a new phone lately, and this just makes me feel the need to wait longer. I do want those sexy specs now! Oh I am so giddy with anticipation now.
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    joytech22 , November 20, 2010 4:14 AM
    aznshinobiThe iPhone 4 runs a A4 Cortex from ARM 1ghz...


    The phone run's the apple A4 at 800MHz, the Ipad runs at 1GHz.
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    soulfringe , November 20, 2010 2:17 AM
    God say it isn't true ! I have had serious consideration for picking up a new phone lately, and this just makes me feel the need to wait longer. I do want those sexy specs now! Oh I am so giddy with anticipation now.
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    onyx_64 , November 20, 2010 2:30 AM
    And yet, the iphone isnt even runnin @ 1GHz! (yes, they might have a 1GHz, but which is underclocked).. But oh well, it looks "cool" nevertheless! lol :p 
    Im just hoping that the incredible v2 wud release by the time my contract expires in a few months.. I dont want to have an "outdated" 1GHz phone then! :( 
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    gekko668 , November 20, 2010 2:40 AM
    Just like good old time where AMD and Intel would duke it out in an clock race. Now it ARM turn.
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    aznshinobi , November 20, 2010 2:52 AM
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    And yet, the iphone isnt even runnin @ 1GHz! (yes, they might have a 1GHz, but which is underclocked)


    The iPhone 4 runs a A4 Cortex from ARM 1ghz...

    Can't wait for the G3 (if it comes out for T-Mobile), the G2 was already impressive, sporting a 800 MHZ (MHZ!!!!) Snapdragon, but still able to keep up with the 1ghz beasts of the current gen. Plus they actually were able to OC it to 1.3ghz luls Cell phone OCing. (never thought I'd see the day)
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    Albyint , November 20, 2010 3:34 AM
    5x the performance? Wow....

    I keep deciding to wait till phones get better before i get one. But each time i read about the "next" phone I put it off because it has something ELSE that I want....

    By the time i actually get one, Ill want it to be at least tri core or something crazy at this rate......
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    joytech22 , November 20, 2010 4:14 AM
    aznshinobiThe iPhone 4 runs a A4 Cortex from ARM 1ghz...


    The phone run's the apple A4 at 800MHz, the Ipad runs at 1GHz.
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    kronos_cornelius , November 20, 2010 4:16 AM
    My next chip will definitely be a Tegra #, Nvidia has to decide what # will be, I have almost two years to go for the next upgrade.
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    aznshinobi , November 20, 2010 4:58 AM
    joytech22The phone run's the apple A4 at 800MHz, the Ipad runs at 1GHz.


    http://www.simonblog.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-teardown-512mb-ram-and-1ghz-cpu-revealed/

    My bad, not an A4 but an A8. Still... 1ghz...
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    reprotected , November 20, 2010 5:09 AM
    I don't care if the next gen would be 1.4 Ghz, you can make a faster processor running at 500 mhz for mobile phones and it can outperform a 6-core Core i7 at 4.0 ghz. Just look at Pentium D to Core 2.
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    jimmysmitty , November 20, 2010 6:48 AM
    reprotectedI don't care if the next gen would be 1.4 Ghz, you can make a faster processor running at 500 mhz for mobile phones and it can outperform a 6-core Core i7 at 4.0 ghz. Just look at Pentium D to Core 2.


    Huh?

    A 500MHz mobile processor outperforming a 4GHz Core i7?

    And I will look at Pentium D to Core 2. Core 2 whomped Pentium D at a lower clock but these mobile CPUs would die in a fight against a 4GHz Core i7. Well in x86/x86-64.
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    dEAne , November 20, 2010 6:48 AM
    This is very neat - The MSM8960 will boast two next-generation processor cores, which Qualcomm claims will give 5x the performance of the original Snapdragon chip and a 75 percent reduction in power consumption.
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    tony singh , November 20, 2010 11:17 AM
    I am so glad to wait so long , the handheld processor tech has now picked up pace. So what's next, dx11 on a nokia n9 ? And AMD & Nvidia fighting to provide GPU for it ...haha
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    the_wolf88 , November 20, 2010 4:50 PM
    We're not going to see devices with these chips until early 2012 !

    It's simple they'll start manufacturing it in 2011 and it'll be ready by 2012 !
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    Vladislaus , November 20, 2010 5:32 PM
    aznshinobiThe iPhone 4 runs a A4 Cortex from ARM 1ghz...

    Eventhough Apple calls the SoC on the iPhone A4 it has nothing to do with the cortex reference. The A4 is a SoC with a CPU based on the Cortex-A8. Also the A4 does have a 1GHz CPU in it but in the iPhone it has been down-clocked.
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    ricardok , November 20, 2010 5:47 PM
    Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy....


    I really wish that they can get the -75% in power consumption!!
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    nebun , November 20, 2010 8:18 PM
    we need better batteries, not processors
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    WarraWarra , November 20, 2010 9:51 PM
    Love the power reduction / 5x performance, seems they are a bit shy / cautious with only dual core and not the now normal CrApple soon to be quad core ?

    Stupid question but surely the Samsung i8000 / Jet / omnia 2 has 2 cpu's 1x 800mhz cpu and 1x 300mhz for data / comm.s so technically it is still the first dual cpu / "dual core" mobile phone ?
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    vittau , November 21, 2010 11:32 AM
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    If someone had told us in 2007 that we'd soon be scoffing over a smartphone with anything less than 1GHz under the hood, we'd have told him or her that they were crazy.

    I wouldn't have... History taught me to never doubt the fast growth of technology.
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    ImagineTek , November 21, 2010 2:39 PM
    While improving graphics performance is welcome, and so too power reduction, I'm not sure what great benefit I'll get from multi-core faster cpus. When I look at the things which are cpu intensive form the desktop environment, I don't see myself doing any of them on a phone. Having said that maybe we're not so far away from a scenario where the phones come with a an OS more closely resembling a desktop environment and a dock that hooks up to a larger monitor and wireless keyboard/mouse so that your computer really does become pocket-able.
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    matt87_50 , November 21, 2010 9:07 PM
    ugg, why do you need so much processing power in a phone? what are you doing on it? running databases, encoding videos? I just don't get it... what they REALLY need is an improvement in GRAPHICS performance.
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