AMD's Piledriver-based 'Trinity' to Arrive in Q1 2012
A leaked processor roadmap provides a first clue about the schedule of AMD's upcoming Trinity APUs.
Trinity will replace Llano in the performance, mainstream and entry-level CPU segments with updates new A8, A6, A4 and E2-series processors. The roadmap only relates to mobile processors and offers very few details, but it appears that the upgrade to the Piledriver CPU core and London graphics core won't change the positioning of the processors in the market.
The Bobcat core will be moved upmarket and extended to the Wichita APU for entry-level and mainstream notebooks later in 2012. The Bobcat-Krishna APU will replace the Ontario APU for compact notebooks in AMD's Deccan platform. Trinity, Wichita and Krishna will use variations of the London graphics core.
Not surprisingly, AMD is also driving down the power consumption of its ultra-low power Desna APU, which is at 5.9 watts today, but will be hitting 4.5 watts in the Hondo APU (also with Bobcat cores) next year.
Trinity should become part of the Comal platform next year, which seems to be coexisting with the Sabine platform throughout 2012 in the performance and mainstream segments. Deccan will replace Brazos in the entry-level and compact notebook range, while AMD will survive 2012 in the ultra-low-power segment as Brazos T.
2013 will bring the Samara APU with Jaguar CPU cores on the very low end. It is unclear how much this roadmap has actually changed over the past few weeks, especially since the firing of CEO Dirk Meyer, who was accused of not getting AMD into attractive mobile markets, which would suggest a potential focus on tablets. We were told that AMD would have tablet processors ready in 2012, and Samara looks a lot like the processor we were told about earlier this year.
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sounds interesting, AMD have some kick ass codenames. The codename of their next CPU should be "Delayed"
HAHA! I don't even know why the put out release dates. They should just, "Coming in the next year or three."
i think they should just rename bulldozer to codename forever
Bulldozer sucked, so they are skipping it in their APUs and moving to Piledriver it seems. I am betting those FX chips should have been named Phenom III, they wont live up to the old branding.
Wow.. way to many codenames, I definitely got lost reading that article. But at least with AMD's pace I'll have a good 4 - 5 years to figure out which one comes after bulldozer.
hm, so we will see these by 2020 perhaps?
sounds interesting, AMD have some kick ass codenames. The codename of their next CPU should be "Delayed"
... and dream on till it becomes reality...
"Bulldozer".... making way for "landfill".
For all the haters out there, you had better hope Bulldozer gives Intel a proverbial run for its money, otherwise your going to see the chips get even more insanely priced than they are now.
If bulldozer sucks I can see the K series going the way of the Dodo bird and Intel going back to the Extreme series chips. Yay $999 for the same silicon that retails for $200, just the cheap one has limits placed on it. I do not miss those days.
youguysmad? You should just stay away from PCs as a whole. Every CPU manufacturer has delays. The Pentium 4s were delayed due to a glitch. The Sandy Bridge Macbooks were delayed. SB even had a rocky start. Do some research before commenting. BD was delayed for a few months and it's the end of the world for most of you. You people only account for a small margin of the market. Most companies aim at the larger market of buyers. The market doesn't revolve around you guys (and this is coming from someone who has 3 Intel computers and 1 AMD).
Anyway, I have high hopes for Trinity. Llano started out very well, and hopefully Trinity as well.
Insanely priced? Are you kidding me? Today's current Intel Pentiums absolutely trounce last gen CPUs and for less than £100. The Q6600 was a legendary chip for performance and price point, but apart from a few weeks, wasn't the standard price around the £150 mark until supplies started running low? Isn't that about the same price as the 1156 i5 760 AND the i5 2500K which are both astounding performers.
When was the last time AMD actually had on the market, a high end CPU to compete? Bulldozer was supposed to be that chip and it is already a gen behind and looking at Intel about to release a further update...
Haters? I think it is justified complaints and disappointed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?featu [...] a-Fdh3BXSs
Insanely priced? Are you kidding me? Today's current Intel Pentiums absolutely trounce last gen CPUs and for less than £100. The Q6600 was a legendary chip for performance and price point, but apart from a few weeks, wasn't the standard price around the £150 mark until supplies started running low? Isn't that about the same price as the 1156 i5 760 AND the i5 2500K which are both astounding performers.When was the last time AMD actually had on the market, a high end CPU to compete? Bulldozer was supposed to be that chip and it is already a gen behind and looking at Intel about to release a further update...Haters? I think it is justified complaints and disappointed.
Intel's prices are definitely not insanely priced like you said. Although, I question their Core2Quads prices, but that's only because (from what I as told)of limited supply (not manufactured anymore). The i5 2500K is one of the best bang for you buck CPU on the market. The last time really held the market was back in in I believe 2004, maybe up to 2006 at most (a little hazy on this one). After that Intel held the market. Technically AMD isn't behind. Sure Intel has Ivy, but in terms of current CPUs on the market, AMD is playing catch-up ATM. Ivy is only a 20% boost in performance over SB, which, if you have a high-end Intel CPU, is worth passing off.
It all looks good to me. AMD is ramping up quite an expanded and updated product line that is good for consumers in all market segments.
I'm interested in what the graphic horse power will be like in the portables, and tablets. We all know that Intel beats AMD at cpu power, however, we also know that Intel has nothing to compete against AMD's graphic horse power.
I can see companies biting the bullet for 20% cpu performance if it means they get 50-80% GPU performance. right now the GPU is a bigger bottle neck in most cases then the CPU.
So you people can laugh at AMD for not having caught up with Intel on the CPU front, I'll just laugh back because Intel never even came close to what Green or Red pumps out for high end.
The guy who comes up with CPU code names at AMD should get a raise. He is the only person beating Intel at anything.
Trinity with Piledriver cores is reported to be 30-50% faster than Llano which should be a huge jump. APUs are definitely the smart move for portables and entry level desktops.
So before they even had any APU chips announced, they're going to release 2 generations of them before bulldozer? Nice move, amd..
For all the haters out there, you had better hope Bulldozer gives Intel a proverbial run for its money, otherwise your going to see the chips get even more insanely priced than they are now. If bulldozer sucks I can see the K series going the way of the Dodo bird and Intel going back to the Extreme series chips. Yay $999 for the same silicon that retails for $200, just the cheap one has limits placed on it. I do not miss those days.
You are right. Because paying $220 for a 2500K that overclocks like crazy is just insane.
/sarcasm
Currently Intel has great prices and thats without any major competition from AMD. BD looks interesting but from what has bene gathered, nothing special. If the pricing rumors are true, it wont give Intel a run for their money, just keep the status quo as it is.
Honestly we have nothing on BD. No release date, nothing. Yet we know SB-E will be out in November, Ivy Bridge will be out in March 2012 and Haswell will be out in Q1 2013. We have more info on Haswell, more than a year out, than we do on BD.
I heard Bulldozer is coming out at the same time as Diablo 3.
You are right. Because paying $220 for a 2500K that overclocks like crazy is just insane./sarcasmCurrently Intel has great prices and thats without any major competition from AMD. BD looks interesting but from what has bene gathered, nothing special. If the pricing rumors are true, it wont give Intel a run for their money, just keep the status quo as it is.Honestly we have nothing on BD. No release date, nothing. Yet we know SB-E will be out in November, Ivy Bridge will be out in March 2012 and Haswell will be out in Q1 2013. We have more info on Haswell, more than a year out, than we do on BD.
And more importantly we can believe haswell WILL come out lol
Glad AMD got their priorities straight finally.
They are hitting the money making markets first, and not trying to use all their resources to take on Intel in the high end desktop market. That just didn't make sense.
Good job AMD for shipping 15million APU's in the 2nd quarter alone.
The purposely put bulldozer on the back burner and concentrated on other markets where they can actually make money and take market share.
It worked.
Bulldozer should be named, Bullshit, takes forever.
Enthusiasts have no clue that they represent less than 5% of the PC chip market... You'd think it was the end of the world that AMD desktop CPUs are not currently faster than Intels. Buy what makes you happy. AMD is doing fine and has positioned themselves to deliver outstanding CPU/APU products to consumers for years to come.
AMD may even be another over-night success story in the next two years - after only 35 years of building a strong market foundation in spite of Intel's illegal activities and blackmailing of the PC industry. It's all good.
For all the haters out there, you had better hope Bulldozer gives Intel a proverbial run for its money, otherwise your going to see the chips get even more insanely priced than they are now. If bulldozer sucks I can see the K series going the way of the Dodo bird and Intel going back to the Extreme series chips. Yay $999 for the same silicon that retails for $200, just the cheap one has limits placed on it. I do not miss those days.
I hear this all the time, but I see no evidence for this. Many people thought Phenom was the end of AMD, also not true. Intel has $1000 CPUs, they probably will continue to have $1000 cpus as long as there are people to pay for them. AMD has been successful, not as much as Intel, but they have brought compelling products to market. Their graphics division is doing well, and they are branching put in embedded markets now too.
So here's the deal:
1) Bulldozer is not the coming of the messiah. It probably won't outdo the current sandy bridge and even if it does, Ivy bridge is coming. Probably the next iteration of the bulldozer tech will be more successful in terms of raw performance.
2) Bulldozer doesn't need to be the fastest cpu out there to sell. You can bet AMD will price it to be competitive. This also will not destroy AMD.
3) Intel is not going to increase current prices if BD isn't the fastest chip. In fact they are set to bring out the new core i7 2700k when BD launches. Probably because it will be a good overclocker, like the FX 8150. It will also be priced competitively.
I can't remember the last time I saw outrageous CPU prices because Intel didn't have competition. This is because even a low priced A6 APU is enough for most people. Most folks are interested in mobility and ease of use, not the fastest number cruncher in the world. I will say it is a good thing we have AMD, especially for budget conscious people like myself.
but...that would mean CPUs of the same names.
sounds interesting, AMD have some kick ass codenames. The codename of their next CPU should be "Delayed"
Let's help AMD out naming their next chips..
BullDozer
PileDriver
HoleDigger
I heard Bulldozer is coming out at the same time as Diablo 3.
you mean some time in the future, right?
Next one should be the "Stone Cold Stunner" if you can smell what the Rock is cookin'.
i think there are a lot of Indians working at AMD. I mean half the code names are in Hindi: Krishna, comal, samara. Deccan is like the Deccan Plateau, which is in India. Kind of cool lol.