Windows 7 Not Afraid of Netbooks or Macs

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3:01 PM - September 16, 2009 by Marcus Yam

Microsoft thinks that Windows 7 will be enough to fend off all challengers.

Despite increasing competition from all sides, Microsoft seems to be holding the "What, me worry?" kind of attitude when it comes to staying on top.

Microsoft executive general manager Charles Songhurst said that netbooks, despite being a growing segment that presents many opportunities for competition, isn't one that should shake Windows 7's success.

The Google Chrome OS and Intel's Moblin provide free and lightweight operating system software for netbooks is geared towards casual surfing and emailing. According to CNet, Songhurst believes that even Google's strength behind Chrome and its free price tag isn't enough to hurt Microsoft's hold on the OS market if the competitors' products aren't demonstrably better.

With Windows 7 being engineered to perform better on netbooks than Windows Vista did, the familiarity of the OS for many users will be reason enough to stick with Microsoft.

Even with Apple's surging success as of late, Microsoft still feels that it the hold on enterprises. "If they are not compelling to the CIO, they are not going to make inroads in the enterprise," Songhurst said, referring to Macs.

Everyone will be watching how Windows 7 performs for both consumers and corporations when it launches next month.

Source : Tom's Hardware US

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D_Kuhn 09/16/2009 9:42 PM
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I'm sure Microsoft has plans to play in the netbook arena, but it'll be MUCH stiff competition in that market than they have on the desktop.

I think Microsoft WILL be hurt by these trends as big players like Google figure out ways to take bites out of the desktop market. People are already moving to laptop from the conventional desktop, how much farther do they have to go before netbooks with non-M$ operating systems are appealing?... not far at all... especially at off the shelf prices that are barely more than Microsoft sells some of it's OS's for all by themselves.

I think the days of Microsoft having unchallenged control over the computing tools of consumers are basically over, and competition is good, it will mean lower margins for Microsoft, but better and more affordable products for US.

tayb 09/16/2009 9:57 PM
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Microsoft isn't going to be effected by Netbook markets. If push comes to shove, Microsoft will offer a free version of Windows 7 for netbooks that will effectively kill competitors from Google and Intel. The only way anyone can compete is making their software free and if they become enough of a threat Microsoft will do the same and the only real advantage is gone.

And to the idiot that said "Snow Leopard can suck my dick." - Get a life.

Yoder54 09/16/2009 10:01 PM
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rebel conquest 09/16/2009 10:05 PM
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Same reason apple runs adds?....

justin_honour 09/16/2009 10:06 PM
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lol I'm sure you didn't really mean to have snow leopard to suck your dick... presumably you still want to use it don't ya :P

dainsane1 09/16/2009 10:07 PM
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Ehsan W 09/16/2009 10:07 PM
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[citation]Snow Leopard can suck my dick.[/citation]

thumbs up because of that XD

sstym 09/16/2009 10:08 PM
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Microsoft still enjoys an 88% market share on OSes. I view the current trend of rising OSX shares as positive on several accounts:
1- This forced Microsoft to focus on quality and Windows 7 is a direct result of this market pressure. Vista was a product of over engineering and complacency.
2- As Apple gains more market shares, the hackers are going to start noticing. Steve Jobs will have to rewrite history Big Brother Style and pretend the infamous "Macs don't get viruses" Hodgman/Long commercial never aired.
3- Microsoft is known for a complete lack of vision that is only matched by their ability to turn around and recover from their mistakes in a split second. This means they will come up with elegant solutions should their market shares get actually threatened.

thackstonns 09/16/2009 10:10 PM
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Yoder54 :
You are an idiot...little man.Snow Leopard was one of the easiest installs ever. I put it on three different Mac's and not one problem. From what I have read in the media Win7 will be a beast when you go to upgrade any hardware. MS is more concerned with piracy than with paying consumers. They would do well if the learned from the music industry.If MS has no concerns, then why do they continue to inundate us with those lame "I am a PC" ads?



Man thats wonderful about snow leapord. You installed an operating system on three macs. wow bet all three macs were similar hardware wise, because you know they are all pretty much the same hardware wise. Also I seem to think apple is just as concerned about piracy, you know with all thier closed systems. Ipod, Itunes, apple tv, Iphone, OSX, app store, Dont jailbreak, limited chosen hardware.

sstym 09/16/2009 10:11 PM
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Yoder54 :
..Snow Leopard was one of the easiest installs ever. I put it on three different Mac's and not one problem.



Do you mean it is easy to install Apple software on Apple hardware?
That's a shocker.

Now build a Mac from scratch and install any kind of upgrades (Graphics, RAID, you name it) on it.

oh wait. You can't.

Yoder54 09/16/2009 10:11 PM
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war2k9 09/16/2009 10:13 PM
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Microsoft has nothing to be afraid of.
MAC OS what a joke, you can only install it legally on apple hardware only(the price of the software is good $29 for a full version).

jellico 09/16/2009 10:15 PM
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Yoder54 :
You are an idiot...little man.Snow Leopard was one of the easiest installs ever. I put it on three different Mac's and not one problem. From what I have read in the media Win7 will be a beast when you go to upgrade any hardware. MS is more concerned with piracy than with paying consumers. They would do well if the learned from the music industry.If MS has no concerns, then why do they continue to inundate us with those lame "I am a PC" ads?


As opposed to the plethora of, "Hello, I'm a Mac" ads which hock the over-priced Apple offerings by touting the, apparently only ad-worthy virtue that, Mac is not a PC.

Spare us your self-righteous indignation. To borrow a line from Top Gune: [Apple] neither be doing it better nor cleaner than the other guy.

bydesign 09/16/2009 10:16 PM
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Vista SP2 isn't that much of an improvement and from a corporate point view isn't any stronger at all. Having said that I don't see any of those OS making huge moves in the corporate environment. There is no ROI in upgrading to Windows 7 so that isn't going to happen.

I was a supporter of Vista, Windows 7 is just a service pack to Vista and should be free of charge. Things like the useless search feature and crippled virtual PC make it hard to support and the home group is slow and useless as well. The only real improvement is the slide show wallpaper and gaming performance. Really not impressed and M$ gives me all my OS's for free...

Yoder54 09/16/2009 10:21 PM
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thackstonns 09/16/2009 10:21 PM
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dainsane1 :
I've been using win7 rc for about a month since my Ubuntu drive failed.it was a week perhaps two before once again i was back to cursing Microsoft. the honeymoon has passed and i miss Linux. win7 is nice but does not beat out ubuntu with compiz installed. rant said; win7 will still do well because the humans of the world still see and think of a computer as windows or mac. people seem to only understand branded systems and become rather confused when things look a but different. I am so tired of the blank stare when i say Linux and yet I do not see that changing anytime soon; even with google pushing a distro.



Sweet so your telling me that I can run all my games on Ubuntu? Oh wait its still just for mostly office type apps, (yes I know you can run some games on Linux. I am just saying not very many that I play.) I think linux is a very commendable os. that being said I tried linux. I am so sick of command line, finding semi usable program alternatives. I don't really want to think that hard all the time. I am sure it is great for some people, but when I build a new system, I want it to do the majority of the things really well, office and productivity, Gaming, Multimedia, etc. Linux might do that, but not without a tremendous headache.

war2k9 09/16/2009 10:22 PM
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Tedders 09/16/2009 10:23 PM
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thackstonns 09/16/2009 10:27 PM
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war2k9 :
I guest i was misinform the zune is also a closed system product.



I never said it wasn't. I never said Microsoft wasnt against piracy. I just stated that apple is too, and gave examples.

HD Boy 09/16/2009 10:48 PM
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geoffs 09/16/2009 10:51 PM
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tayb 09/16/2009 10:51 PM
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mcreskiller 09/16/2009 10:57 PM
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what mac users fail to relise is that windows is amazing. mac osx snow leopard is set to work on maybe 20 sets of hardware windows works on millions of sets of hardware 99.9 percent of the time flawlessly for that windows deserves amazing thumbs up. like to see apple do that? they couldn't. and also the reason you dontneed to do a keycode type in is cause it checks to make sure your using a mac cause the average person can't build a hackintosh so they dontreally need to worry about piracy. Apple is the worse excuse for a company iv ever seen now adays. they dont give anything to charity, microsoft gives huge amounts to charity each year something mac should try... My friend got a imac (newer one) he HATES it he has had it for 3-4 months and it has crashed 10+ times and he has even reinstalled leopard and snow leopard 10 or more times he took it to the apple store they couldn't find anything wrong with it and still charged him 100 dollors to just look at it. he may sell it and get a pc. so eat that mac fans :D

Yoder54 09/16/2009 10:59 PM
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Yoder54 09/16/2009 11:01 PM
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sstym 09/16/2009 11:04 PM
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tayb :
Funny... I don't remember typing in key-codes when I installed Snow Leopard... or being reminding to activate Snow leopard within 30 days... or having to call a 1-800 number because my Windows won't activate...




Why would they require you to enter keycodes or activate the product if you can only install it on their hardware???
That would be like having to call a keyboard manufacturer each time you upgrade the firmware.

Of course, Apple will also tell you that installing OSX on a non-apple machine is as wrong as killing kittens and that jailbreaking will cause an early end of days. I guess an outraged Steve Jobs is the down side of not having to rely on software activation.

gmcboot 09/16/2009 11:06 PM
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If the only thing you see about Windows 7 is that it has pretty wallpaper and slide show then your boss should fire you for not doing your job evaluating the OS. Is it something completely new, no, but it is a hell of a lot better than Vista. Stability, speed, ease of use to name just a few. I have had 5 PC and Laptops using Windows 7 and not only is it more stable and faster than Vista, it also faster in many ways than XP. The only issues I have had with 7 have been based upon software that hasn't been updated to work completely with the 7 kernel.

Apple is fine for what it does. But it is incapable of being an enterprise solution. Why, because if they were to make OSX flexible enough to handle the abundance of enterprise level software (Oracle, SAP, Dynamics 10, Peoplesoft,... and lets not forget the enterprise management software from IBM, Cisco, HP and others.. if they were to make it that flexible and useful, then it would be as vunerable as Windows has been. Lets see a MAC run 50,000 Enterprise (no POP3) email clients. It will not because it cannot replace the Windows as the dominate OS for business desktops. Too many MAC people forget that the world is more than making pretty pictures.

Windows 7 is not the cure to all of Microsoft problems, but it is a step in the right direction. No I will not be moving my enterprise to it the first day, but every new PC that comes through my door after November 1st will be running it.

pocketdrummer 09/16/2009 11:08 PM
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sstym :
Microsoft still enjoys an 88% market share on OSes. I view the current trend of rising OSX shares as positive on several accounts:1-



This is of course ignoring the fact that the market share went up substantially when users had the option of dual-booting it with windows. lol!

crom 09/16/2009 11:20 PM
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thackstonns 09/16/2009 11:24 PM
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tayb :
Funny... I don't remember typing in key-codes when I installed Snow Leopard... or being reminding to activate Snow leopard within 30 days... or having to call a 1-800 number because my Windows won't activate...



Why would you have to you can only install it on a mac. (closed hardware), I bet you do remember to deactivate computers in Itunes though dont you. And tell me what are the exact differences between an imac, macbook pro, and an aluminum macbook?. still intels chips all core 2's also. So no real change there. bet the chipset is basically the same. and what for video cards Nvidia based probably the 9400. If it is so easy then buy me a dongle and install it on a machine with ati graphics, tv tuner, nvidia northbridge, and creative soundcard. oh n an amd processor.

abhik 09/16/2009 11:28 PM
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tayb :
Can you jump from 32-bit to 64-bit on the fly with Win7? Don't think so...it is easy enough with Snow Leopard. Besides, the Unix core has it all over the vestiges of DOS.



remind me why you'd want to do that?


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