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Windows 8 to Get Time Machine-like History Vault

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Windows 8 could make backups easy.

Keeping a backup of your data is a hugely important rule to almost all sorts of computing. While cloud computing through something like Chrome OS helps take care of that for casual applications, until everything is cloud-based users will need to take care of things for themselves.

According to winrumors, a new feature that might make it into Windows 8 is something that will potentially be called History Vault. The new feature will supposedly make use of the Shadow Copies that Windows makes when files are modified.

History Vault could end up working much like Apple's Time Machine feature for Mac OS X, which keeps a record of all files added, deleted and modified. Users of Time Machine can browse back to see a file's history and restore it to the present system state. Time Machine also keeps a complete copy of the system for full backup and migration purposes.

It's a handy feature for Mac users, and something like it would be a great addition to Windows.

Discuss more about this and other Windows 8 features here!

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pelov 04/03/2011 10:20 PM
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are we talking phone booth or something along the lines of a wormhole?

bison88 04/03/2011 10:22 PM
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Sounds good and a long time in the making. I know MS would rather be the "innovator" rather than the replicator, but it doesn't help anybody when they ignore great ideas and features in competing OSes just because they didn't think of it and get it implemented first.

ProDigit10 04/03/2011 10:31 PM
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moricon 04/03/2011 10:38 PM
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To be fair to Microsoft, it will have to be very good and reliable before it replaces Acronis as my First Choice!

someguynamedmatt 04/03/2011 10:39 PM
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...Sorry, MS, but Windows 7 is the most resource-intensive OS that I ever plan on using. Don't get me wrong - It's been rock solid and everything that came with it I've used at one time or another - but now, you're just getting into the realm of bloatware and packing in extra junk just because you can. Don't do it.

joytech22 04/03/2011 10:45 PM
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Quote :Keeping a backup of your date

Haha I think he means data

To be honest anything that sucks up hard drive space like that feature would is just not worth the space.

cheepstuff 04/03/2011 11:03 PM
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ProDigit10 :
Great, again a space waster on windows!If they could keep the modifications safe, that would be a huge difference, eg: of a certain text file, only keep the data that was modified, and where it goes. Then compress that data.I'm not too fond of having a WIndows 8, taking up 6GB of disk space, and an additional 14GB of data that can only expand, take CPU and HD cycles!Man,are the good guys at MS gone, and now there are only gadget geeks doing the programming?"Less is more" does not seem to count with MS.They're only satisfied by bringing an OS that no system can run due to it's complexity, and stuff people really don't need!I don't call this innovation, I call this degeneration!



You are very worked up about a rumor about a piece of software that does not officially exist that is part of an operating system that is not on the market yet.

If you look at the source article you can see from the screenshot that:

Firstly, this is a security feature that you do not have to enable.
Secondly, if you do choose to enable it, it can save to separate disks and even to remote machines over a network. This means (if the screenshot is accurate) that you don't have to waste space on your own local hard drives.
Thirdly, stop being so concerned over hard drive space. These days, a high capacity hard drive can break below 10 cents per gigabyte. If it is too expensive for you to pay for a cheap backup drive at rates these days, you shouldn't be able to pay for a new operating system... or internet for that matter.

This is appears to be innovative, and could an intelligent way to utilize modern memory storage capacities in a way that is helpful to the user. And if it turns out to be crappy, use a magical ONOFF toggle that is available to all of Windows auxiliary services.

christop 04/03/2011 11:29 PM
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I don't see people jumping on windows 8. A good bit of people just got 7.

danwat1234 04/03/2011 11:37 PM
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With an 8-core computer with each core being the equivalent of a 12GHZ Pentium 4, 8GB+RAM and a fast SSD, you don't have to worry about a bloated O/S slowing you down.. Wait a few years until 16nm Intel chips come out and then get a new PC with uber specs 4 cheap.

Don't obsess over bloatware. Just crunch through it if you can't remove it.

memadmax 04/03/2011 11:38 PM
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After the Vista disaster, Windows 7 makes up for it pretty good. But you still can't pry XP from my cold dead hands. If 8 can finally outperform XP then we'll see.....

malmental 04/03/2011 11:48 PM
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just make sure 'msconfig' is still available to kill it from my start-up if and when going to windows 8..

Sabiancym 04/03/2011 11:52 PM
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memadmax :
After the Vista disaster, Windows 7 makes up for it pretty good. But you still can't pry XP from my cold dead hands. If 8 can finally outperform XP then we'll see.....



I think you're just being stubborn for the sake of being stubborn. I'd say a lot of people who still use xp do it so they can brag about how cool they are for still using it. The only reason to use XP is if you're a big company who can't afford the switch and/or still uses outdated business software.

DawnTreader777 04/03/2011 11:52 PM
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they need to roll the restore function and windows backup into this, basically make one well designed system for continuous backup of the system and user files.

pelov 04/03/2011 11:57 PM
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Sabiancym :
I think you're just being stubborn for the sake of being stubborn. I'd say a lot of people who still use xp do it so they can brag about how cool they are for still using it. The only reason to use XP is if you're a big company who can't afford the switch and/or still uses outdated business software.



what about price? ~$150 for windows 7 is a lot for the average joe who only uses his PC to check his email, watch a few videos on youtube and shop online. Remember linux is free, faster, smaller and safer.

The release is just too close to windows 7 to draw a lot of folks to windows 8. From what I've seen there's not much that's being added to 8 that would pry me from ubuntu or 7, never mind at the regular MS price tag.

dimamu15 04/04/2011 12:17 PM
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Stryter 04/04/2011 12:34 PM
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Why are people complaining about a 'possible' feature that you'll most likely be able to turn on and off?

bison88 04/04/2011 12:40 PM
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memadmax :
After the Vista disaster, Windows 7 makes up for it pretty good. But you still can't pry XP from my cold dead hands. If 8 can finally outperform XP then we'll see.....





Nothing is going to "beat" Windows XP when you take modern hardware components and put them on a 10 year old OS. I'm not going to go into how an older operating system is naturally going to use fewer system resources because it'll just spark a flame war using Vista as a failure. Microsoft has a Intel style "tick tock" cycle. Major upgrade followed by a minor one where Vista was major and Windows 7 was minor and Windows 8 is supposed to be major. As far as disk space being an excuse. Wake up people. TeraByte drives are common place and extremely affordable, stop being stingy.

iam2thecrowe 04/04/2011 12:42 PM
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if i can turn it off then its fine with me. I want a streamlined system that doesnt constantly access my hard drive, need 4gb ram and 50gb of hard drive space just to run the damn OS. Microsoft, please stop making your OS's full of crap that no one uses.

malmental 04/04/2011 1:15 AM
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I can't wait to see how the activation process can be hacked like in all the other OS's.
It's quite simple now via BIOS activation and with the SLIC soft mod but I'm sure MS is working on that/those..

rebturtle 04/04/2011 1:19 AM
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Quote :Keeping a backup of your date is a hugely important rule to almost all sorts of computing.


Seriously? I know that editing and proofreading went the way of the Dodo several years ago on this site, but the first sentence? I suppose at least it wasn't the headline.

Yuka 04/04/2011 1:20 AM
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I'll just use SVN or GIT, but ty MS.

Cheers!

alidan 04/04/2011 1:29 AM
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bison88 :
Nothing is going to "beat" Windows XP when you take modern hardware components and put them on a 10 year old OS. I'm not going to go into how an older operating system is naturally going to use fewer system resources because it'll just spark a flame war using Vista as a failure. Microsoft has a Intel style "tick tock" cycle. Major upgrade followed by a minor one where Vista was major and Windows 7 was minor and Windows 8 is supposed to be major. As far as disk space being an excuse. Wake up people. TeraByte drives are common place and extremely affordable, stop being stingy.



what did vista and 7 add to windows? ill admit that if you weren't someone who used windows sences 95, it probably somewhat better.

but seriously, windows vista was unusable, from a gaming standpoint without major tweaks. i mention gaming, because microsoft tried to get people to upgrade by making dx 10 ONLY work on vista at the time.

windows 7 softens the blow that vista had, but going from xp to it... yea... i hate 7. so much changed for no reason at all. i don't have a machine that i alone use 7, so i cant tweak it, but every time that i use my family machines, EVERY TIME i audibly say "F#$%ING 7". there has not been one time that i was using 7 and i didn't hit something i hate, or it did something stupid for the sake of "convenience"

i wont argue with people, as somehow, xp uses less resources and is more functional than vista or 7 for me (minus trim, and dx11) id is all around better than vista/7 falls o deaf ears.

Anonymous 04/04/2011 2:57 AM
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Windows 3.11 FTW(stability wise)

bhaberle 04/04/2011 3:22 AM
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ProDigit10 :
Great, again a space waster on windows!If they could keep the modifications safe, that would be a huge difference, eg: of a certain text file, only keep the data that was modified, and where it goes. Then compress that data.I'm not too fond of having a WIndows 8, taking up 6GB of disk space, and an additional 14GB of data that can only expand, take CPU and HD cycles!Man,are the good guys at MS gone, and now there are only gadget geeks doing the programming?"Less is more" does not seem to count with MS.They're only satisfied by bringing an OS that no system can run due to it's complexity, and stuff people really don't need!I don't call this innovation, I call this degeneration!



That is why you can disable it. But with hard drives getting so cheap these days, space isn't much of an issue.

Anonymous 04/04/2011 3:23 AM
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we change new cellhpone every year. why is it so hard for you to upgrade your os? money on upgrading a new os is way cheaper than buying a new iphone anyway. technology move on. if you still believe that win xp is too good for you. please keep using it til the end of the earth.

pocketdrummer 04/04/2011 4:16 AM
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It's cool that they're adding new features, but I probably won't use this one. I'd rather just use a raid setup. However, if they allow you complete control over how it saves the backups, then it might be worthwhile.

Honestly, I'd be more impressed if they streamlined their "free" program package. Windows Media player is a joke compared to iTunes. Windows movie maker is crap, Windows Live Messenger is kinda blah, there's no windows product that competes with garage band (even though I use Ableton and Cubase... but still). The package that comes with windows is a bit lacking, but I do prefer Win 7 to OSX for most things.

Benihana 04/04/2011 4:48 AM
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pelov :
are we talking phone booth or something along the lines of a wormhole?


I'm hoping it's a phone booth. :)

aftcomet 04/04/2011 4:54 AM
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dimamu15 :
People are complaining... wtf? Price is the matter? I am 19, been using pc since 13, never bought a one damn licensed thing. Especially when it comes to OS.



You're the idiot here. Price isn't a problem because you can just steal it?

Nice argument moron.

ap3x 04/04/2011 5:44 AM
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sykozis :
It's obvious you're 19. You're grammar is proof that the US Educational system has completely failed.The "cascade" feature was added to Windows before you were born. You have been using computers since you were 13? That means you completely missed the launch of WindowsXP and discovered computers during the WindowsXP SP1 stage, after 90% of the major bugs reported during beta tested were finally fixed. At launch time, the stability and performance of WindowsXP only rivaled that of WindowsME. What you people call stability, is pretty entertaining. WindowsXP still can't compare to Windows3.1 on the basis of stability.




3.1 Sucked ASS dude!!, What are you talking about. Was barely stable and a pain in the ass to use. Why even bring it up?

ap3x 04/04/2011 5:48 AM
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pelov :
what about price? ~$150 for windows 7 is a lot for the average joe who only uses his PC to check his email, watch a few videos on youtube and shop online. Remember linux is free, faster, smaller and safer.The release is just too close to windows 7 to draw a lot of folks to windows 8. From what I've seen there's not much that's being added to 8 that would pry me from ubuntu or 7, never mind at the regular MS price tag.



Microsoft's new strategy is following Apples OS strategy, evolutionary upgrades/improments every year. Works fine for the consumer space but the enterprise it will be tough to keep up with that schedule. Apple does it because they do not have a enterprise focus as much. Their end users buy it.

Anonymous 04/04/2011 5:52 AM
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At least MS isn't like Apple and charges full price for service packs!


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