Samsung 840 Pro SSD: More Speed, Less Power, And Toggle-Mode 2.0

Test Setup And Benchmarks

We upgraded our storage platform's motherboard to Gigabyte's G1.Sniper M3, hoping to tinker around with HD Graphics 4000 for an image quality story. However, we still wanted to keep our SSD results as comparable to previous findings as possible. So, we're still using Intel's Core i5-2400 for testing.

Test Hardware
Processor
Intel Core i5-2400 (Sandy Bridge), 32 nm, 3.1 GHz, LGA 1155, 6 MB Shared L3, Turbo Boost Enabled
Motherboard
Gigabyte G1.Sniper M3
Memory
Kingston Hyper-X 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3-1333 @ DDR3-1333, 1.5 V
System Drive
OCZ Vertex 3 240 GB SATA 6Gb/s
Tested DrivesIntel SSD 320 300 GB SATA 3Gb/s, Firmware: 1.92

Intel SSD 320 80 GB SATA 3Gb/s, Firmware: 1.92

Intel SSD 330 180 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: 300i

Intel SSD 330 120 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: 300i

Samsung 830 256 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: CXMO

Samsung 830 64 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: CXMO

Crucial m4 256 GB SATA 6Gb/s Firmware: 0309

Crucial m4 64 GB SATA 6Gb/s Firmware: 0009

OCZ Vertex 3 240 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: 2.15

OCZ Vertex 3 120 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: 2.22

OCZ Vertex 3 60 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: 2.15

OCZ Agility 3 240 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: 2.22

OCZ Agility 3 120 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: 2.22

OCZ Agility 3 60 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: 2.22

OCZ Vertex 4 256 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: 1.5

OCZ Agility 4 256 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: 1.5

OCZ Agility 4 128 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: 1.5

OCZ Vertex 4 64 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: 1.5

Samsung 840 Pro 512 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: DMX02B0Q

Corsair Neutron GTX 240 GB SATA 6Gb/s, Firmware: M206
Graphics
Palit GeForce GTX 460 1 GB
Power Supply
Seasonic 760 W, 80 PLUS Gold
System Software and Drivers
Operating SystemWindows 7 x64 Ultimate
DirectX
DirectX 11
DriverGraphics: Nvidia 270.61
RST: 10.6.0.1002
Virtu: 1.1.101
Benchmarks
Tom's Hardware Storage Bench v1.0
Trace-Based
Iometer 1.1.0
# Workers = 1, 4 KB Random: LBA=8 GB, varying QDs, 128 KB Sequential, 8 GB LBA Precondition
PCMark 7
Storage Suite
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  • mayankleoboy1
    Despite what the judges believe, Samsung is a great innovator. Unlike some fruity companies, that basically license other companies tech....
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  • mayankleoboy1
    Kudos to Samsung for getting ahead of the competition yet again. And the complete SSD is designed and manufactured in house! And thay are sure of its reliability, hence the 5 year warranty.

    I dont see why it did not get a Toms approved award.... its faster, uses less power, and offers better warranty than the competition. And the firmware is also stable, unlike SF.
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  • willard
    pocketdrummerThey keep increasing the speed, but they do nothing to reduce the COST.

    SSD prices are the lowest they've ever been and are dropping at a very rapid pace. Last year $1 per GB was unheard of, now you can find SSDs as cheap as $.60/GB and mainstream drives have been under $1 for a while. Only the top of the line drives are still more than $1/GB.

    Quote:
    It's still pointless for someone like me who has over 1.5TB of space used.

    4TB and growing, and I get plenty of use out of my SSD. People who claim SSDs are pointless for them are people who don't understand how they should be used. Leave your data on an HDD, and put the OS on the SSD.

    Quote:
    I can't load Windows and all of my critical programs on a 256GB SSD, and the 512GB wouldn't give me much wiggle room. Not to mention my sample libraries that would benefit from the speed... that are hundreds of GB each.

    Forget loading your hundreds of GB of data files onto an SSD. Decent mechanical drives in RAID 0 perform nearly as well in sequential reads, which is what reading in your samples would be.

    Sounds like you need to stop complaining and start using the right tool for the job.
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  • Other Comments
  • mayankleoboy1
    Kudos to Samsung for getting ahead of the competition yet again. And the complete SSD is designed and manufactured in house! And thay are sure of its reliability, hence the 5 year warranty.

    I dont see why it did not get a Toms approved award.... its faster, uses less power, and offers better warranty than the competition. And the firmware is also stable, unlike SF.
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  • mayankleoboy1
    Where are the TRIM efficiency tests ?
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  • mayankleoboy1
    Despite what the judges believe, Samsung is a great innovator. Unlike some fruity companies, that basically license other companies tech....
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  • willyroc
    Wow, Samsung was ahead of competitors with its 830 due to superior performance and low prices. Now I bet the 840 has, (or will) widened that lead.
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  • pocketdrummer
    mayankleoboy1Kudos to Samsung for getting ahead of the competition yet again. And the complete SSD is designed and manufactured in house! And thay are sure of its reliability, hence the 5 year warranty. I dont see why it did not get a Toms approved award.... its faster, uses less power, and offers better warranty than the competition. And the firmware is also stable, unlike SF.


    Probably because it still costs $600 for a pathetic 512gb of memory. Once you can get 512gb for under $200 and have a life span that gets close to a decent HDD, then you can expect an award.

    They keep increasing the speed, but they do nothing to reduce the COST. I would take an SSD half as fast as some that are out now if they cost me half as much and had a decent amount of storage. It's still pointless for someone like me who has over 1.5TB of space used. I can't load Windows and all of my critical programs on a 256GB SSD, and the 512GB wouldn't give me much wiggle room. Not to mention my sample libraries that would benefit from the speed... that are hundreds of GB each.
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  • Anonymous
    So it's the Samsung 840Pro 256GB for C:, and it's the Seagate single-platter 1TB drive (ST1000DM003) for storage. Awesome awesome combo.
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  • sherlockwing
    Gah, 1 month after I get the 830 now comes the 840 Pro who gets another 120 mb/s in extra speed.
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  • mayankleoboy1
    sherlockwingGah, 1 month after I get the 830 now comes the 840 Pro who gets another 120 mb/s in extra speed.


    Thats technology growth for you :D
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  • aicom
    Well this makes my new SSD decision much easier.
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  • sherlockwing
    To those that complain about SSD life span, the truth is that in 3 years(typical warranty of an SSD) you won't be using the same SSD because the new SSD will be 40-50% faster. 3 year from now I'd be using the 860 Pro with anyway and when an SSD reach end life it just can't write anymore, you can still read all the files onto your new SSD unlike a hard drive that just breaks down.
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  • Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer
    So glad I didn't pull the trigger on a 830 yesterday...I came this close. For the performance gains of the 840 Pro, I can wait.
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  • willard
    pocketdrummerThey keep increasing the speed, but they do nothing to reduce the COST.

    SSD prices are the lowest they've ever been and are dropping at a very rapid pace. Last year $1 per GB was unheard of, now you can find SSDs as cheap as $.60/GB and mainstream drives have been under $1 for a while. Only the top of the line drives are still more than $1/GB.

    Quote:
    It's still pointless for someone like me who has over 1.5TB of space used.

    4TB and growing, and I get plenty of use out of my SSD. People who claim SSDs are pointless for them are people who don't understand how they should be used. Leave your data on an HDD, and put the OS on the SSD.

    Quote:
    I can't load Windows and all of my critical programs on a 256GB SSD, and the 512GB wouldn't give me much wiggle room. Not to mention my sample libraries that would benefit from the speed... that are hundreds of GB each.

    Forget loading your hundreds of GB of data files onto an SSD. Decent mechanical drives in RAID 0 perform nearly as well in sequential reads, which is what reading in your samples would be.

    Sounds like you need to stop complaining and start using the right tool for the job.
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  • freggo
    pocketdrummer...pointless for someone like me who has over 1.5TB of space used


    You are not painting the greatest geek picture of yourself here :-)
    You must have heard that it is a good idea to have at least 2 drives, one OS and crucial programs and one or more Data drives?
    Photoshop even kindly points out that it prefers a separate scratch disk.

    I use a 90GB SSD and 2TB data drive and that works just fine with Win7/64, full Photoshop/Premiere install and a few choice other things; and still have some 30GB left over.
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  • frombehind
    pocketdrummerIt's still pointless for someone like me who has over 1.5TB of space used.



    I have over 30 TB of "data" sitting on an enterprise class NAS, that everyone on my network uses for extra storage and to access content.

    My PC does everything I need to do with 2x 256 GB SSD drives, and I am sure after using it for a year... that anyone else's can too.

    Upgrading both my drives to 2 of these 840 512gb drives would be huge boost ^^
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  • jaquith
    Don't get me wrong, I like Samsung SSD's but ~30% more expensive it's a tough choice, and for now I'd choose the OCZ Vertex 4. The real world in 4KB (most OS/Apps) doesn't justify it's price. Hopefully the prices I ran across are incorrect, but here's what I've found:

    Samsung SSD 840 Pro Pricing:
    $99.99 64GB, $149.99 128GB, $269.99 256GB, $599.99 512GB.

    Samsung SSD 830 Pricing:
    $74.99 64GB, $139.99 128GB, $219.99 256GB, $569.99 512GB.

    OCZ Vertex 4 Pricing:
    $49.99 64GB, $99.99 128GB, $199.99 256GB, $399.99 512GB.
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  • warmon6
    pocketdrummerOnce you can get 512gb for under $200 and have a life span that gets close to a decent HDD, then you can expect an award.


    Well, it seams samsung is doing a decent job on getting there. heck, In this article they even mentioned about there personal experiences with the 470

    Quote:
    We run Samsung 470s in all of our test beds in Tom's Hardware labs around the world, and not one of them has suffered any sort of failure.


    and the first ones launched about 2 years ago. So I'm just a few of those test beds has those early models. ;)

    pocketdrummerThey keep increasing the speed, but they do nothing to reduce the COST.


    Oh really? For the samsung 830 128GB I have, (if I bought it) it would of cost $200 to $250 when it first came out. (got my SSD through the samsung giveaway many months back, so I dont remember exact price of it at the time, other than it was above $200.)

    From the samsung 830 review
    Quote:
    We're told that the 128 GB 830-series drive should sell for $250. That’s a little under $2 per GB (right in line with OCZ's 120 GB Vertex 3).


    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-830-ssd-toggle-mode,3034.html

    So with the info from above, a samsung 830 128GB cost about $140 now and when it launched a year ago, i cost over $200.... They haven't reduced the cost at all?

    Lets rethink that about that. ;)

    (and thats just from samsung, I haven't looked at the other guys. Although knowing how companies react to each other that's in the same market, I'm pretty darn sure that i'll see the exact same trend.)

    pocketdrummer It's still pointless for someone like me who has over 1.5TB of space used. I can't load Windows and all of my critical programs on a 256GB SSD, and the 512GB wouldn't give me much wiggle room. Not to mention my sample libraries that would benefit from the speed... that are hundreds of GB each.


    Something fishy with your thinking or something :heink:

    No matter what kind of job you can do with a computer, I've never heard of someone that would need 512GB of storage just for their critical programs or if they did, it wasn't critical enough to need the speed of an SSD (and with all the people i've hanged out with on the forums, I know there plenty of guys in there that really do use there storage systems to the limit (both speed and storage) by there jobs/activites).

    Now if your combining progams WITH anything you save. Then that's a different story.

    Although if that's your thinking then as Freggo and willard pointed out, For how long you been here, you should of know by now that you need would need to pick the right things for the job and truly figure out what needs the speed benefit of an SSD. (not every "critical program" needs the speed boost of an SSD. )
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  • ikyung
    Once you go SSD, you can't go back.
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  • acku
    sherlockwingGah, 1 month after I get the 830 now comes the 840 Pro who gets another 120 mb/s in extra speed.


    Such is the life of an early adopter. :)

    Cheers,
    Andrew Ku
    Tom's Hardware
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  • mayankleoboy1
    jaquithDon't get me wrong, I like Samsung SSD's but ~30% more expensive it's a tough choice, and for now I'd choose the OCZ Vertex 4. The real world in 4KB (most OS/Apps) doesn't justify it's price. Hopefully the prices I ran across are incorrect, but here's what I've found.


    The difference is Vertex4 has performance dependent on the capacity filled. Plus, OCZ are known to release not fully tested firmware. With Samsung, the firmware is rocksolid.
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  • jaquith
    sherlockwingGah, 1 month after I get the 830 now comes the 840 Pro who gets another 120 mb/s in extra speed.

    Real World - you won't be able to tell the differences, most tasks <1 second, install a 7GB game <15 seconds. So if you're a 'Borg' then maybe...
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