HP Announces Desktops With AMD R9 380 GPU, Intel 5th Gen CPUs (Updated)
Preparing for the end of summer when students go back to school and many students buy new computers, HP is preparing several new desktops and all-in-one PCs filled with hardware that hasn't been released yet. HP also announced a new 4K display.
New Systems
The HP Pavilion series of PCs are receiving updates to both the all-in-one PC line and the tower PC line. The all-in-one computers feature a full HD IPS glass display measuring 21.5 inches, 23 inches, or 27 inches, with HDMI output for connecting a second display. All of the all-in-one systems also have two USB 3.0 ports, four USB 2.0 ports, a LAN connection, and a 3-in-1 card reader.
For hardware specs, the all-in-one systems can have an Intel fourth generation Celeron, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, or AMD A4 through A10 CPUs. Most systems will just use integrated graphics, but there are two dedicated GPU options from AMD, the Radeon R7 A330 and Radeon R7 A360. Having up to 3 TB of storage is optional. RAM capacity isn't mentioned.
If you aren't familiar with those dedicated GPUs mentioned above, don't worry, no one is. We haven't been able to get any word from AMD yet, but they appear to be part of AMD's next generation of GPUs. Being in an AIO system, these could be mobile GPUs, but AMD typically uses an "M" to show mobile GPUs. We don't know what the "A" stands for yet, but it's possibly part of a new AIO line of GPUs that better take advantage of the AIO form factor in a way that desktop and mobile GPUs cannot.
The HP Pavilion Towers have options for the same CPUs plus an AMD A10 option, and the same storage options as the AIO systems, but with an optional dedicated GPU in the Nvidia GTX 745. In addition, all models have two USB 2.0 ports, four USB 3.0 ports and a 7-in-1 card reader.
In the higher-performance HP ENVY line, things start to become a little more confusing. In the original press release, the HP ENVY Tower and HP ENVY Phoenix Tower both featured CPU options for AMD A8 through FX processors as well and Intel fourth gen Core i5 and i7 offerings. According to the product pages, though, these systems come with fifth generation Intel Core processors.
In addition to the CPU, the HP ENVY Tower has dedicated GPU options up to an Nvidia GTX 980 or AMD Radeon R9 380. The higher-performance HP ENVY Phoenix Tower options are up to an Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 too, but the release didn't mention a specific AMD GPU.
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Both systems have storage options for solid state drives up to 512 GB and HDDs up to 3 TB (or up to 4 TB in the HP ENVY Phoenix Tower, according to the product page), and they share the same connectivity options as the HP Pavilion Tower.
HP didn't say how much RAM it used inside of the HP ENVY Tower, but the product page does say that it uses DDR4. Given the similarities between the two systems, it is likely that the HP ENVY Phoenix Tower will also use DDR4, and according to the product page, the Phoenix Tower has 32 GB of RAM.
There is another option for the HP ENVY Phoenix Tower for a closed-loop water cooling system, which according to the product page can be overclocked.
To go along with these new systems, HP announced a new 32-inch 4K display that features support for HDMI 2.0, DisplayPort, and MHL. The display, named HP Spectre 32 Studio Display, also comes with four 6-watt speakers -- two are in the front, while two more in the rear are used for passive radiating sounds and enhanced bass.
Header Cell - Column 0 | HP Pavilion All-in-One PCs | HP Pavilion Tower | HP ENVY Tower | HP ENVY Phoenix Tower | HP Spectre Studio Display |
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AMD CPU Options | AMD A4, A6, A8 APUs | AMD A4, A6, A8, A10 APUs | AMD A8 & A10 APUs, or AMD FX CPU | None | None |
Intel CPU Options | Intel Celeron, Intel 4th Gen Core i3, i5, i7 | Intel Celeron, Intel 4th Gen Core i3, i5, i7 | Intel 4th or 5th Gen i5 or i7 | Intel 4th or 5th Gen i5 or i7 | None |
GPU | Up to AMD Radeon R7 A330 or A360 | Up to Nvidia GTX 745 | Up to Nvidia GTX 980 or AMD Radeon R9 380 | Up to Nvidia GTX 980 or AMD Radeon | None |
Storage | Up to 3 TB HDD | Up to 3 TB HDD | Up to 3 TB HDD or 512 GB SSD | Up to 3 (or 4) TB HDD or 512 GB SSD | None |
RAM | N/A | N/A | DDR4 | 32 GB DDR4 | None |
Connectivity | 2x USB 3.04x USB 2.03-in-1 Card ReaderLAN | 4x USB 3.02x USB 2.07-in-1 Card ReaderLAN | Up to 4x USB 3.0At Least 2x USB 2.03-in-1 Card ReaderLAN | Up to 4x USB 3.0At Least 2x USB 2.03-in-1 Card ReaderLAN | USB, 3.5mm stereo line-in and headphone jack |
Video Outputs | HDMI | HDMI, DVI (Intel), VGA (AMD) | HDMI, DVI (Intel), VGA (AMD) | HDMI, DVI (Intel), VGA (AMD) | HDMI 2.0, HDMI 1.4 with MHl, DP |
Screen Size | 21.5," 23," or 27" diagonal | None | None | None | 32" |
Resolution | 1920x1080 | None | None | None | 3840x2160 |
Release Date | June 28 | June 10 | June 10 | June 10 | May 24 |
Starting Price | $649.99 | $449.99 | $699.99 | $899.99 | $999.99 |
Unannounced Hardware?
Although new computers are always fun, what makes these systems so interesting is that they list new PC hardware from AMD and Intel that currently isn't available. The HP ENVY systems are due out June 10, which means we could see the AMD Radeon R9 300 series of GPUs and the desktop Intel 5th Gen processors within weeks.
But is it true? At this point it is hard to tell. Though companies sometimes leak information about products prematurely, it is usually retracted quickly, but HP posted this information more than a day ago and has yet to retract any of it. (The company has not yet responded to our queries on the matter, either.)
Further, the press release mentioning the new AMD GPUs came out first. The product pages were posted at a later time and added new information. Some of the information on the product pages doesn't match the press release, such as which generation of Intel processors are used or storage size. The fifth-gen Intel CPUs weren't mentioned in the press release, but they are on product pages.
We assume that HP's leaks are factually correct -- indeed, if these new components from Intel and AMD will be revealed in a matter of weeks (around Computex, perhaps), then this back-to-school time frame for the HP systems jibes accordingly. But this whole situation is strange, and we're pressing to get to the bottom of it.
Update, 5/6/15, 9:50am PT: HP got back to us to let us know there was a mistake on the product pages we referenced before, and the new PCs will all use Intel 4th Gen Core CPUs. This also would explain why DDR4 was listed on one of the product pages, as there will likely be an option for Intel's LGA 2011-V3 based systems which use DDR4.
That clears up the confusion about the CPU and RAM type used in these systems.
As for the GPUs in use, AMD approved HP's release and was therefore the source of its own leak. We still know very little about the cards, but we can say for certain now that we know the names of three GPUs coming from AMD soon.
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Larry Litmanen 5th Gen Intel CPUs, DDR4, SSDs, GTX980, 4K display................HP went all out, this is just about as good as it gets out there right now. Add the power of HP to get discounts from manufacturers i am sure price will be good as well.Reply
Man if they can convince nVidia to drop a few $$ off GTX 980 because of HPs buying power and include Witcher and Batman game..................deal of the year. -
leeb2013 I thought a previous article said the R9-380 was just a rebadged R9-290 anyway and nothing new. Only R9-390(x) will be new.Reply -
MasterDell Kind of weird how they say they will put in a 380 or 980. Those are (should be) quite different cars. Horse power speaking, that is. To me that's like saying they will put in a 290 or 270x.. Nothing in between. Just seems kind of funnyReply -
chicofehr Waiting for the 390X with 8GB of ram. With 3x1600P I need more power. I don't want to use more then 2 cards in cross/sli. When you go past 2 cards the stability of games & the number of supported games go way down. Unfortunately, there will probably never be a single card that can handle 7680x1600 at a good frame rate :(Reply -
CaptainTom I thought a previous article said the R9-380 was just a rebadged R9-290 anyway and nothing new. Only R9-390(x) will be new.
The 380X will supposedly a 290X re-engineered with the more advanced Tonga architecture with delta color compression, higher clocks, and slightly lower energy usage. It should take on the 980 easily. -
Fr33Th1nk3r Doesn't look like it has good ventilation. But they do look like sexy hair dryers, good job HP.Reply -
xenol
Then it's not a 290X.I thought a previous article said the R9-380 was just a rebadged R9-290 anyway and nothing new. Only R9-390(x) will be new.
The 380X will supposedly a 290X re-engineered with the more advanced Tonga architecture with delta color compression, higher clocks, and slightly lower energy usage. It should take on the 980 easily. -
MasterDell 15813330 said:Are they just slapping GTX on every nVidia card now? GTX745 wow.
What do you mean? The GTX745 is an OEM card that has been out for a while.. Same with the GTX 760 Ti and GTX 760 192-Bit